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    • arcadez2003A
      arcadez2003 @darknior
      last edited by

      @darknior said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

      @gamez-fan said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

      im also kinda sick of certain ones on here who keep blaming my changes everytime a user reports a problem so i'll be moving on soon to find another
      Arcade project to work on.

      Seriously?
      DO NOT base your decision on three guys who are not happy while 1000 others say nothing and count on you to update MAME and run more games. Your work is excellent ! We love it ! Nobody never do it before !!!
      Please continue, your MAME2003 is also use on many other platform with light processor, not only PI users ... and it's the most important.

      Well it's partly due to that the main reason however is i've just ran outta things that can be backported that dont require a full time commitment to work on ;)

      Arcade Addict

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      • darkniorD
        darknior @arcadez2003
        last edited by

        @gamez-fan said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

        i've just ran outta things that can be backported that dont require a full time commitment to work on

        Arg, yes i understand ... but you can take your time to do it ... nobody work on MAME like you :(

        Life is game, just play it !

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        • arcadez2003A
          arcadez2003 @darknior
          last edited by arcadez2003

          @darknior said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

          @gamez-fan said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

          i've just ran outta things that can be backported that dont require a full time commitment to work on

          Arg, yes i understand ... but you can take your time to do it ... nobody work on MAME like you :(

          No there is another dev working away on something good :) i have a feeling a MAME build is coming that will blow everything supported on this platform outta the water

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          • arcadez2003A
            arcadez2003 @maxbeanz
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            @maxbeanz said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

            I really think this should be a separate build. If there are new ROMs added or changed then its not really lr-mame2003 anymore. It will undo peoples work of putting together a MAME 2003 set and they won't be able to copy there ROMs across in future to a fresh Pi build because some will need new ROMs and samples etc. Maybe this should be called lr-mame2003 EX or something so people have a choice of regular Mame2003 which works the same on all systems or this new Extra build.

            No great hardship or exactly a laborious task to create a new Rom and samples pack for 2017, we've done things like that on the Xbox for years!!!
            but well i guess this is a different scene with a different outlook at the end of the day it's up to you guys to decide how you want this MAME core
            to be released.

            Arcade Addict

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            • RiverstormR
              Riverstorm @darknior
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              @darknior said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

              No, a little people ...

              Love that quote!

              I have to ditto what you're doing is incredible. Code based vs ROM based changes. That's just a win-win for RetroPie and MAME 0.78. Better gaming on the same ROM set.

              There's always resistance/challenges to change and new ideas when introduced, it's just human nature. We're creatures of habit. It would be a loss of a tremendous asset to see you move along! >:( I think there's one more thing...here...that needs fixed! Oh and one more here and here and here...

              I can't help to think what @markwkidd said...what you're doing is important to the community and as @darknior pointed out it's not just one platform benefiting.

              No there is another dev working away on something good :) i have a feeling a MAME build is coming that will blow everything supported on this platform outta the water

              That sounds very interesting! Is there a place to follow this development?

              i've just ran outta things that can be backported that dont require a full time commitment to work on ;)

              Life outside of MAME! Never...ok...maybe...maybe once in a while I walk outside and take a look at the big burning orange ball. I think they call it the sun. Then I am good for a few weeks.

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              • arcadez2003A
                arcadez2003 @Riverstorm
                last edited by

                @riverstorm said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                That sounds very interesting! Is there a place to follow this development?

                It's all underground just now but trust me when it drops you'll know about it!!

                @riverstorm said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                Life outside of MAME! Never...ok...maybe...maybe once in a while I walk outside and take a look at the big burning orange ball. I think they call it the sun. Then I am good for a few weeks.

                Oh i have other FBA based projects that are keeping me busy just now ;)

                Arcade Addict

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                • RiverstormR
                  Riverstorm @arcadez2003
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                  @gamez-fan said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                  @riverstorm

                  As per the driver these are the samples you now need for Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr.

                  static const char *dkong_sample_names[] =
                  {
                  "run01.wav",
                  "run02.wav",
                  "run03.wav",
                  "jump.wav",
                  "dkstomp.wav",
                  };

                  static const char *dkongjr_sample_names[] =
                  {
                  "jump.wav",
                  "land.wav",
                  "roar.wav",
                  "climb0.wav",
                  "climb1.wav",
                  "climb2.wav",
                  "death.wav",
                  "drop.wav",
                  "walk0.wav",
                  "walk1.wav",
                  "walk2.wav",
                  "snapjaw.wav",
                  };

                  @gamez-fan Do you have a list of changed ROMs for the updates you implemented by chance? I think you said it wasn't many. I can update the DAT if you do. I updated the main DAT so it rebuilds with the correct Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. samples and has the correct merge information for clones, bootlegs, etc.

                  The other sets like "mame2003-lr-working-no-clones" look they used RomLister and all the merge information has been stripped. It also seems more games were removed than should be. It doesn't contain games like Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. for example which I believe are Nintendo.

                  Donkey Kong:
                  1 Parent
                  6 Clones

                  Donkey Kong Jr:
                  1 Parent
                  6 Clones

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                  • markwkiddM
                    markwkidd
                    last edited by markwkidd

                    If you do update the DAT, could you please start with the official MAME 2003 DAT? If you don't already have it, you can download it here: https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/tree/master/metadata

                    In the long term I'm interested in either merging the new DAT info into the existing XML DAT, or creating a secondary "hacks" DAT that only incorporates the changes. Anything you can do will be welcome progress though! I don't expect to have time to work on this personally until next month.

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                    • RiverstormR
                      Riverstorm @markwkidd
                      last edited by

                      @markwkidd said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                      If you do update the DAT, could you please start with the official MAME 2003 DAT? If you don't already have it, you can download it here:

                      Thanks Mark I grabbed the one from the RetroPie docs but I'll grab the one posted in the repository due to the off chance they are different.

                      Samples are pretty straight forward (name and sampleof) but to update the ROM information I would need the name, size (in bytes), CRC hash & SHA1 hash. It looks like the merge tags are correct so converting between say ClrMamePro and ROMVault should work fine, as well as, parent/clone relationships. I do have the current MAME and rollback romset so really I just need to know which files are changing or like an existing file that's being renamed, shared, etc.

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                      • RiverstormR
                        Riverstorm
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                        @markwkidd - I merged the new samples for Donkey Kong & Donkey Kong Jr and added 'hack' to the end of the file name. You have a place to upload it?

                        I don't know if there's any value to knowing exactly which sets are using the samples. but possibly to check for any errors. Such as Radar Scope uses the same samples as Donkey Kong or Street Heat - Cardinal Amusements uses the same sample set as Donkey Kong Jr.

                        If the update didn't take these "other" games into account they will break or I can just update the samples for the changed games if there's a more specific list of exact games/clones updated. Leaving the existing samples intact for the "other" games.

                        For example if Radar Scope is looking for effect00.wav (a file in the original dkong.zip
                        sample) it will not work as Radar scope's parent for samples is dkong and it's been completely removed from all sets with the new samples.

                        Unless of course all clone games have incorporated the new sample changes. Which some of the "other" games might not even use the new samples. The two examples mentioned above are actually parent games using samples from other parent/clone games. Hopefully that makes sense.

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                        • darkniorD
                          darknior
                          last edited by

                          https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/pull/228
                          https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/pull/229

                          0.88u7: BUT added sample support to Sasuke' (hit.wav, boss_start.wav, shot.wav, boss_attack.wav).
                          0.88u7: BUT added speech sample support to Fantasy' (ft_voi-0 - ft_voi-b.wav).
                          0.88u7: BUT added speech sample support to Vanguard' (vg_voi-0 to vg_voi-f.wav).
                          0.88u7: MAME32 Improved sample support for Rockola driver HD38880 speech by samples.
                          0.81u5: Curt Coder added Vanguard SHOTB sound effect.
                          0.81u4: Curt Coder hooked up SN76477 sound in Fantasy, Nibbler, Pioneer Balloon, Sasuke and Vanguard

                          @gamez-fan Fully tested no Roms have changed but to take advantage of the full range of
                          sound improvements new samples are needed for Fantasy, Sasuke and Vanguard
                          these are easily obtained from the old samples folder on Twistys site.

                          Life is game, just play it !

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                          • arcadez2003A
                            arcadez2003 @Riverstorm
                            last edited by

                            @riverstorm said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                            @markwkidd - I merged the new samples for Donkey Kong & Donkey Kong Jr and added 'hack' to the end of the file name. You have a place to upload it?

                            I don't know if there's any value to knowing exactly which sets are using the samples. but possibly to check for any errors. Such as Radar Scope uses the same samples as Donkey Kong or Street Heat - Cardinal Amusements uses the same sample set as Donkey Kong Jr.

                            If the update didn't take these "other" games into account they will break or I can just update the samples for the changed games if there's a more specific list of exact games/clones updated. Leaving the existing samples intact for the "other" games.

                            For example if Radar Scope is looking for effect00.wav (a file in the original dkong.zip
                            sample) it will not work as Radar scope's parent for samples is dkong and it's been completely removed from all sets with the new samples.

                            Unless of course all clone games have incorporated the new sample changes. Which some of the "other" games might not even use the new samples. The two examples mentioned above are actually parent games using samples from other parent/clone games. Hopefully that makes sense.

                            All the games that use the dkong and dkongjr samples are just sharing the same code, the update to the samples should be fine for all the games

                            Regards.

                            Arcade Addict

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                            • arcadez2003A
                              arcadez2003
                              last edited by arcadez2003

                              A final breakdown of the changes............

                              New games now supported in no particular order

                              Hyper Street Fighter II
                              Puzz Loop 2
                              Title Fight
                              Air Rescue
                              Baryon
                              Cute Fighters
                              Dream World
                              Gaia : The Last Choice Of Earth
                              Rolling Crush
                              FixEight (bootleg)
                              Hyper Crash
                              Gunbarich
                              Power Instinct Legends
                              Counter Run
                              Dyna Gears
                              Vasara 2
                              Sonic Boom
                              Bang Bang Busters
                              Ghost Loop
                              Choutetsu Brikin'ger - iron clad
                              Sengoku 3
                              Zupapa
                              King Of Fighters 2001
                              King Of Fighters 2002
                              King Of Fighters 2003
                              Metal Slug 4
                              Metal Slug 5
                              Rage Of The Dragons
                              Power Instinct Matrimelee
                              Pochi & Nyaa
                              Snk Vs Capcom : Svc Chaos
                              Samurai Shodown V
                              Samurai Shodown V Special
                              Zintrick
                              Crossed Swords 2
                              The Last Hope
                              Cabal (Joystick version with extra button 3 )
                              Asura Buster
                              Rock'n Tread 2
                              Rock'n 3
                              rock'n 4

                              Games fixed and or now working

                              Avenging Spirit
                              DJ Boy
                              Driftout 94
                              Fire Barrel
                              Monster Slider
                              Snowboard Championship
                              Street Fighter (with Added Speedup)
                              Twin Eagle 2

                              Games now with sound and or sound improvements

                              Cosmic Alien
                              Fire Shark
                              Vimana
                              Donkey Kong
                              Donkey Kong JR
                              Asura Buster
                              Asura Blade
                              Rock'n Tread 1 and 2
                              Rock'n 3 and 4
                              Fire Barrel
                              Sasuke Vs Commander
                              Fantasy
                              Nibbler
                              Pioneer Balloon
                              Vanguard

                              Improvements

                              Added sound support to Asura Blade / Asura Buster
                              Added sound support to Fire Shark and Vimana
                              Added sound support for Cosmic Alien
                              Added sound support for the Rock,n games
                              Added BritneysPAIRS sound sample improvements for Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong JR
                              New and improved sample support for Sasuke, Fantasy, Pioneer Balloon and Vanguard
                              Enabled single screen hack for Lode Runner The Dig Fight
                              Fixed end of game crash in Double Dragon
                              Fixed random crashes in Rampage World Tour
                              Added protection simulation for Snowboard Championship
                              Added dsp handling for Driftout 94 and Twin Eagle 2 both games now playable
                              Fixed incorrect game logic in Monster Slider game now playable
                              Fixed bad graphics and added sound to Fire Barrel game now playable

                              gamezfan with code additions via iq_132 and BritneysPAIRS.

                              Arcade Addict

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                              • RiverstormR
                                Riverstorm @arcadez2003
                                last edited by

                                @gamez-fan said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                                New games now supported in no particular order...

                                Holy smokes, now that's a list! Nice work! I am not very good at navigating which source drivers belong to which games to retrieve names and hashes to build out the DAT so I might need help to locate the correct files.

                                All the games that use the dkong and dkongjr samples are just sharing the same code, the update to the samples should be fine for all the games

                                Thanks I've updated the dkong & dkongjr samples and clones. 2 down... :)

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                                • arcadez2003A
                                  arcadez2003
                                  last edited by arcadez2003

                                  Hyper Street Fighter II cps2.c
                                  Puzz Loop 2 cps2.c
                                  Title Fight multi32.c
                                  Air Rescue system32.c
                                  Baryon dreamwld.c
                                  Cute Fighters dreamwld.c
                                  Dream World dreamwld.c
                                  Gaia : The Last Choice Of Earth dreamworld.c
                                  Rolling Crush dreamwld.c
                                  FixEight (bootleg) toaplan2.c
                                  DJ Boy djboy.c
                                  Hyper Crash nemesis.c
                                  Gunbarich psikyosh.c
                                  Power Instinct Legends cave.c
                                  Counter Run freekick.c
                                  Dyna Gears ssv.c
                                  Vasara 2 ssv.c
                                  Sonic Boom system16.c
                                  Bang Bang Busters neogeo.c
                                  Ghost Loop neogeo.c
                                  Choutetsu Brikin'ger - iron clad neogeo.c
                                  Sengoku 3 neogeo.c
                                  Zupapa neogeo.c
                                  King Of Fighters 2001 neogeo.c
                                  King Of Fighters 2002 neogeo.c
                                  King Of Fighters 2003 neogeo.c
                                  Metal Slug 4 neogeo.c
                                  Metal Slug 5 neogeo.c
                                  Rage Of The Dragons neogeo.c
                                  Power Instinct Matrimelee neogeo.c
                                  Pochi & Nyaa neogeo.c
                                  Snk Vs Capcom : Svc Chaos neogeo.c
                                  Samurai Shodown V neogeo.c
                                  Samurai Shodown V Special neogeo.c
                                  Zintrick neogeo.c
                                  Crossed Swords 2 neogeo.c
                                  The Last Hope neogeo.c
                                  Cabal (Joystick version with extra button 3 ) cabal.c
                                  Asura Buster fuukifg3.c
                                  Rock'n Tread 2 tetrisp2.c
                                  Rock'n 3 tetrisp2.c
                                  rock'n 4 tetrisp2.c

                                  Games fixed and or now working

                                  Avenging Spirit megasys1.c
                                  Driftout 94 ssv.c
                                  Fire Barrel m107.c
                                  Monster Slider ssv.c
                                  Snowboard Championship gaelco2.c
                                  Street Fighter (with Added Speedup) sf1.c
                                  Twin Eagle 2 ssv.c

                                  Games now with sound and or sound improvements

                                  Cosmic Alien cosmic.c
                                  Fire Shark toaplan1.c
                                  Vimana toaplan1.c
                                  Donkey Kong dkong.c
                                  Donkey Kong JR dkong.c
                                  Asura Buster fuukifg3.c
                                  Asura Blade fuukifg3.c
                                  Rock'n Tread 1 and 2 tetrisp2.c
                                  Rock'n 3 and 4 tetrisp2.c
                                  Fire Barrel m107.c
                                  Sasuke Vs Commander rockola.c
                                  Fantasy rockola.c
                                  Nibbler rockola.c
                                  Pioneer Balloon rockola.c
                                  Vanguard rockola.c

                                  Arcade Addict

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                                  • RiverstormR
                                    Riverstorm @arcadez2003
                                    last edited by

                                    @gamez-fan said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                                    Hyper Street Fighter II cps2.c

                                    Just using this one as an example. The ROM is hfs2a.zip for game "Hyper Street Fighter II: The Anniversary Edition (Asia 040202)"

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                                    • arcadez2003A
                                      arcadez2003 @Riverstorm
                                      last edited by

                                      @riverstorm said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                                      @gamez-fan said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                                      Hyper Street Fighter II cps2.c

                                      Just using this one as an example. The ROM is hfs2a.zip for game "Hyper Street Fighter II: The Anniversary Edition (Asia 040202)"

                                      Yip spot on

                                      Arcade Addict

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                                      • maxbeanzM
                                        maxbeanz @Riverstorm
                                        last edited by

                                        @riverstorm Hi, could you also make a separate DAT with only the new/changed ROMs and samples (like @markwkidd said) ? I have already set up my Mame2003 with primarily Parent and working ROMs only, if I run this new merged DAT I will have no idea of the specific new versions needed etc. And if you gather all the new only samples into a DAT we will know the exact versions needed from Twistys site.

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                                        • RiverstormR
                                          Riverstorm @maxbeanz
                                          last edited by

                                          @maxbeanz said in lr-mame2003 driver improvement and backport:

                                          Hi, could you also make a separate DAT with only the new/changed ROMs and samples (like @markwkidd said) ?

                                          Yeah that shouldn't be a big issue. To do something like that it would require replacing them in your source directory.

                                          It might take some time to work through the list being around the holidays and it's quite a bit larger than I originally had thought. I thought maybe a dozen or so games but the more updates the better! :)

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                                          • markwkiddM
                                            markwkidd
                                            last edited by markwkidd

                                            Nice! Once the 'hacks' DAT is ready for use I would like to see it get added to the MAME 2003 github repository in the same metadata folder as the 'standard' MAME 2003 DAT I linked above.

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