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    Random slowdowns on PS Games with Retropie 3 B

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    • quicksilverQ
      quicksilver @tiagop
      last edited by

      @tiagop yes, mine is v1.3 cue/bin format

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      • stooS
        stoo @quicksilver
        last edited by stoo

        @quicksilver @bobharris @tiagop @quicksilver I think maybe I've cracked tiagop's problem:

        tiagop are you using the emulated BIOS instead of real PSX BIOS files?

        I just deleted my BIOS files to test and the slowdown increased for me like 2x. Put them back and it's fine again.

        You need scph5500.bin scph5501.bin and scph5502.bin in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/

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        • tiagopT
          tiagop @stoo
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          @stoo I only placed the SCPH1001.BIN in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS, I will try to get those 3 files and put it there later today, fingers crossed!

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          • BobHarrisB
            BobHarris @tiagop
            last edited by

            @tiagop I don't think it will make a difference though as I am also using SCPH1001.BIN

            Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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            • stooS
              stoo @BobHarris
              last edited by

              @bobharris It absolutely does. Try it. Play Lara's Home with the 3 BIOS files I mentioned and without. You'll see a huge difference, particularly around the water and trellis climbing areas.

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              • tiagopT
                tiagop @stoo
                last edited by

                @stoo That's exactly where I have problems! I'm gonna delete the SCPH1001.BIN and get scph5500.bin scph5501.bin and scph5502.bin. I will tell you guys how it went, it can't hurt :)

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                • stooS
                  stoo @tiagop
                  last edited by stoo

                  @tiagop Cool. There are still some framerate drops whenever the mansion is in view (like in the vid below at around 3mins 20secs), but I've tested and that is present in lr-psx-beetle as well, which means it's present on a real PS1.

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                  • tiagopT
                    tiagop @stoo
                    last edited by

                    @stoo Yeah at the area at 3min and 20sec I get the same kind of stuttering and I'm OK with it. But the Venice level for example is horrible, I remember playing it on the PSP and having no issues on any level (can't remember if I played Lara's home there).

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                    • quicksilverQ
                      quicksilver @BobHarris
                      last edited by

                      @bobharris same, I am also only using SCPH1001

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                      • BobHarrisB
                        BobHarris @stoo
                        last edited by

                        @stoo I believe you when you say there is a difference between an emulated bios and a real ps1 bios, but why would there be such a difference between two real bios files? As I said before: I don't notice any of tiagops slowdowns and I share his bios file.
                        ButI agree it can't hurt for him to try it out.

                        Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                        • ShakzS
                          Shakz @tiagop
                          last edited by Shakz

                          @tiagop Howdy Friend....this thread is huge but....has anyone suggested to you yet that it may be your power supply? I have a video showing the difference between a good power supply and a bad power supply (link to my channel in my sig). If I recall I used Einhander as a test PSX game.

                          When the Pi is not getting enough juice it will start shutting down cores in the CPU to conserve power. This causes bad performance, choppy audio and video. Do you ever notice any lightning bolts/rainbow squares in the top right of your screen when booting the pi or just randomly? This is a tell that your pi isn't getting enough power. It could also be the cord. I get a TON of questions on youtube ( I try to answer them all ) and either the power supply or the cord is the issue in most cases....

                          RetroPie tips, tricks, and tweaks: https://www.youtube.com/eazyhax

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                          • stooS
                            stoo @BobHarris
                            last edited by stoo

                            @bobharris PCSX-rearmed doesn't use scph1001. You're using emulated BIOS.

                            https://docs.libretro.com/library/pcsx_rearmed/

                            Lol, I just noticed the RetroPie docs say to use scph1001. I'm going to assume that the guys at Libretro are correct and the RetroPie docs are outdated.

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                            • tiagopT
                              tiagop @Shakz
                              last edited by

                              @shakz I'm using the oficial power supply which I have it for only 2 months and never noticed that rainbow. @stoo Nice find! I'm at home and will test it in the next hour

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                              • BobHarrisB
                                BobHarris @stoo
                                last edited by

                                @stoo So you're saying almost everyone here is using an unsupported ps1 bios?
                                This is wrong information? :
                                https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Playstation-1

                                Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                                • stooS
                                  stoo @BobHarris
                                  last edited by

                                  @bobharris According to the Libretro docs, yes, that is wrong information.

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                                  • BobHarrisB
                                    BobHarris @stoo
                                    last edited by BobHarris

                                    @stoo I don't think so. I deleted my scph1001 bios and now when I start a ps1 game it suddenly says No playstation bios file found - add for better compatibility.

                                    Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                                    • stooS
                                      stoo @BobHarris
                                      last edited by

                                      @bobharris Guess it can use both then. I still put more faith in the LR docs than the RP ones :P

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                                      • stooS
                                        stoo @stoo
                                        last edited by

                                        OK, that's just weird as hell. I just removed the 550x files and replaced then with the 1001 file to test and now it performs the same: fine. Even emulated BIOS seems to work fine!

                                        I'm confused.

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                                        • BobHarrisB
                                          BobHarris @stoo
                                          last edited by

                                          @stoo I have 72 ps1 games and they all work great when using SCPH1001.BIN , but yes I'm sure other bios files can work great too.
                                          I am curious if it changes anything for Tiagop.

                                          Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                                          • BobHarrisB
                                            BobHarris @stoo
                                            last edited by

                                            @stoo Why do you call 1001 emulated? isnt it just the first bios made for the ps1?

                                            Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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