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    Random slowdowns on PS Games with Retropie 3 B

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    • tiagopT
      tiagop @stoo
      last edited by

      @stoo Yeah at the area at 3min and 20sec I get the same kind of stuttering and I'm OK with it. But the Venice level for example is horrible, I remember playing it on the PSP and having no issues on any level (can't remember if I played Lara's home there).

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      • quicksilverQ
        quicksilver @BobHarris
        last edited by

        @bobharris same, I am also only using SCPH1001

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        • BobHarrisB
          BobHarris @stoo
          last edited by

          @stoo I believe you when you say there is a difference between an emulated bios and a real ps1 bios, but why would there be such a difference between two real bios files? As I said before: I don't notice any of tiagops slowdowns and I share his bios file.
          ButI agree it can't hurt for him to try it out.

          Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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          • ShakzS
            Shakz @tiagop
            last edited by Shakz

            @tiagop Howdy Friend....this thread is huge but....has anyone suggested to you yet that it may be your power supply? I have a video showing the difference between a good power supply and a bad power supply (link to my channel in my sig). If I recall I used Einhander as a test PSX game.

            When the Pi is not getting enough juice it will start shutting down cores in the CPU to conserve power. This causes bad performance, choppy audio and video. Do you ever notice any lightning bolts/rainbow squares in the top right of your screen when booting the pi or just randomly? This is a tell that your pi isn't getting enough power. It could also be the cord. I get a TON of questions on youtube ( I try to answer them all ) and either the power supply or the cord is the issue in most cases....

            RetroPie tips, tricks, and tweaks: https://www.youtube.com/eazyhax

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            • stooS
              stoo @BobHarris
              last edited by stoo

              @bobharris PCSX-rearmed doesn't use scph1001. You're using emulated BIOS.

              https://docs.libretro.com/library/pcsx_rearmed/

              Lol, I just noticed the RetroPie docs say to use scph1001. I'm going to assume that the guys at Libretro are correct and the RetroPie docs are outdated.

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              • tiagopT
                tiagop @Shakz
                last edited by

                @shakz I'm using the oficial power supply which I have it for only 2 months and never noticed that rainbow. @stoo Nice find! I'm at home and will test it in the next hour

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                • BobHarrisB
                  BobHarris @stoo
                  last edited by

                  @stoo So you're saying almost everyone here is using an unsupported ps1 bios?
                  This is wrong information? :
                  https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Playstation-1

                  Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                  • stooS
                    stoo @BobHarris
                    last edited by

                    @bobharris According to the Libretro docs, yes, that is wrong information.

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                    • BobHarrisB
                      BobHarris @stoo
                      last edited by BobHarris

                      @stoo I don't think so. I deleted my scph1001 bios and now when I start a ps1 game it suddenly says No playstation bios file found - add for better compatibility.

                      Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                      • stooS
                        stoo @BobHarris
                        last edited by

                        @bobharris Guess it can use both then. I still put more faith in the LR docs than the RP ones :P

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                        • stooS
                          stoo @stoo
                          last edited by

                          OK, that's just weird as hell. I just removed the 550x files and replaced then with the 1001 file to test and now it performs the same: fine. Even emulated BIOS seems to work fine!

                          I'm confused.

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                          • BobHarrisB
                            BobHarris @stoo
                            last edited by

                            @stoo I have 72 ps1 games and they all work great when using SCPH1001.BIN , but yes I'm sure other bios files can work great too.
                            I am curious if it changes anything for Tiagop.

                            Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                            • BobHarrisB
                              BobHarris @stoo
                              last edited by

                              @stoo Why do you call 1001 emulated? isnt it just the first bios made for the ps1?

                              Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                              • stooS
                                stoo @BobHarris
                                last edited by stoo

                                @bobharris That makes two of us now. I really thought I'd solved it.

                                It's not emulated. I thought because of the performance difference I saw and because the LR docs say to use the 500x bios specifically that meant it wouldn't recognise other BIOS files.

                                It does, I checked runcommand.log. If it sees 550x BIOS it will use that, if it sees 100x BIOS it will use that. It only falls back to emulated if it sees no BIOS file at all.

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                                • BobHarrisB
                                  BobHarris @stoo
                                  last edited by

                                  @stoo I always wondered about that. I've thought about putting every ps1 bios file in the bios folder, hoping pcsxrearmed would choose the optimal file for every game, but I have no idea what pcsxrearmed chooses when confronted with multiple bios files.
                                  Getting a bit off topic though..

                                  Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                                  • tiagopT
                                    tiagop
                                    last edited by

                                    So I deleted SCPH1001.BIN and used scph5500.bin, scph5501.bin and scph5502.bin. I notice that it's now a bit better, the framedrops are more smooth and the game is more smooth overall. Maybe I had a bad BIOS file? Thanks for the help from all of you!

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                                    • BobHarrisB
                                      BobHarris @tiagop
                                      last edited by

                                      @tiagop Could be, I'm glad it worked out for you!

                                      Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                                      • stooS
                                        stoo @BobHarris
                                        last edited by

                                        @bobharris Well with both 1001 and 5501 in there it chose to use 5501. How it decides I have no idea.

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                                        • BobHarrisB
                                          BobHarris @stoo
                                          last edited by

                                          @stoo I guess maybe it chooses the latest version of the specific region then. Thanks for checking!

                                          Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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