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    lilbud
    last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 10:12

    https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-model-bplus-sale-now-35/

    Woke up to a pleasant but unexpected surprise. The dual band wifi has me most excited.

    Now, they have announced NO upgrade to the GPU. So N64 will still suck on this new pi. And no new systems will be able to run.

    Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

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      obsidianspider
      last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 11:02

      https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-specs-benchmarks/

      It looks really power hungry. I wonder if the 200Mhz bump will help with emulation performance, and if it's going to run really hot. I guess we'll see soon enough as people purchase them.

      đź“· @obsidianspider

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        lilbud
        last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 11:05

        I'm going to skip this one. I see no real point in buying one. I've been using my custom PC more for emulation instead of using the pi. So until they release a pi that can run N64 and other later systems at full speed, I'll hold out.

        Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

        Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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          SgtJimmyRustles
          last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 11:26

          @lilbud said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

          I'm going to skip this one. I see no real point in buying one. I've been using my custom PC more for emulation instead of using the pi. So until they release a pi that can run N64 and other later systems at full speed, I'll hold out.

          That, or if one of your pi's dies.

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            spruce_m00se
            last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 12:06

            I will get one for a new build, but i doubt its worth upgrading to.

            I guess kodi may run better on it. (ooooh KODI, watch out for the KODI police)

            I too have been using other hardware recently for higher end systems, I find the wii to be cheaper than a pi and great with all nintendo systems up to, well...... the WII.

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              herb_fargus administrators
              last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 13:38

              I bought it. But then again I have a horrible pi addiction. I need help.

              If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

              Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                tiagop
                last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 13:42

                Can someone test demanding games to see if it's worth it? For example PSX games with high resolution, N64, Dosbox..

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                  lilbud @spruce_m00se
                  last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 13:44

                  @spruce_m00se said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                  I too have been using other hardware recently for higher end systems, I find the wii to be cheaper than a pi and great with all nintendo systems up to, well...... the WII.

                  I like using the Wii more than the pi for emulation. It can handle much more. But I also like using my computer because I can run almost everything with no slowdown. But I still use the pi for when I want to play on a big tv instead of a monitor.

                  Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

                  Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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                    SgtJimmyRustles @herb_fargus
                    last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 13:44

                    @herb_fargus said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                    I bought it. But then again I have a horrible pi addiction. I need help.

                    Pitervention is required.

                    Check out /r/SBCGaming for Retropie, Recalbox, OGST (Odroid) talk and more!
                    http://www.reddit.com/r/sbcgaming

                    Hop on the Dicscord as well and chat about all things Retropie (or recalbox, lakka, etc)
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                      lilbud @tiagop
                      last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 13:45

                      @tiagop Its only a 0.2 Mhz bump in clock speed. Don't get your hopes up for improved emulation. You'd have to wait for a Pi 4 if you want a significant bump.

                      Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

                      Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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                        BuZz administrators @lilbud
                        last edited by BuZz 14 Mar 2018, 13:48

                        @lilbud 200Mhz :-) or 0.2Ghz

                        To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                          tiagop @lilbud
                          last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 14:03

                          @lilbud Oh yeah, my bad. I thought the RPI3 had 1.0 GHz instead of 1.2 GHz!

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                            tashman @herb_fargus
                            last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 14:09

                            @herb_fargus

                            Me too. This morning's order will bump me up to 11 pii.

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                              Sensi
                              last edited by Sensi 14 Mar 2018, 15:29

                              Will the Pi3 b+ work with retropie 4.3 or will there need to be support added?

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                                dsstrainer @herb_fargus
                                last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 16:05

                                @herb_fargus I'll join you are RPi Anonymous :)

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                                  fabio78
                                  last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 16:42

                                  This one is all about overclock. 1.4Ghz is what most base Pi3s are able to achieve whilst remaining stable. Considering the new model’s base speed is already 1.4, it should hit 1.6 comfortably, perhaps even 1.8 taking into account the better “thermal management” and the use of a heat sink+fan little combo. On these terms it’s actually a rather decent upgrade over the base model with stock clock.

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                                    PiBoy @fabio78
                                    last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 17:16

                                    @fabio78 said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                                    This one is all about overclock. 1.4Ghz is what most base Pi3s are able to achieve whilst remaining stable. Considering the new model’s base speed is already 1.4, it should hit 1.6 comfortably, perhaps even 1.8 taking into account the better “thermal management” and the use of a heat sink+fan little combo. On these terms it’s actually a rather decent upgrade over the base model with stock clock.

                                    I am not so convinced of that. The original RPi 3 is underclocked for the sake of overheating. The clockspeed on the 3 B+ is now at the original speed for the CPU, 1.4 GHz, and features a heat spreader to mitigate overheating. According to the RPi's site, above 70°C it will throttle down to 1.2 GHz, and above 80°C it will throttle even lower, just like the original RPi 3. There does not appear to be any indication there is a higher overclock potential, considering you will still need a heatsink/fan combo anyway when overclocking. People who overclock the current RPi 3 still hit somewhere between 1.4-1.6 GHz, with a fan. That speed increase doesn't make a big difference in terms of emulator support, in case you were wondering. N64 is still not tenable.

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                                      Riverstorm
                                      last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 17:42

                                      It looks to have a real IHS on the CPU. Metal on metal cooling. If the emulation is CPU heavy overclocking the GPU probably won't gain much but a GPU heavy game might benefit a little from overclocking the ARM and both may potentially benefit slightly from RAM overclocking.

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                                        MSP430
                                        last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 17:53

                                        Damn, I have a Pi1B and a Pi0, convinced myself that a Pi3B would only bring PSX from playable to nice and N64 from not playable to sometimes playable. Expected Pi4B in February 2019.

                                        Now I am quite tempted ...

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                                          fabio78 @PiBoy
                                          last edited by 14 Mar 2018, 18:33

                                          @piboy said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                                          @fabio78 said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                                          This one is all about overclock. 1.4Ghz is what most base Pi3s are able to achieve whilst remaining stable. Considering the new model’s base speed is already 1.4, it should hit 1.6 comfortably, perhaps even 1.8 taking into account the better “thermal management” and the use of a heat sink+fan little combo. On these terms it’s actually a rather decent upgrade over the base model with stock clock.

                                          The original RPi 3 is underclocked for the sake of overheating. The clockspeed on the 3 B+ is now at the original speed for the CPU, 1.4 GHz

                                          I did't know that. Bummer...

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