Updated Retropie - No Menu Sounds
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It doesn't bother me one way or another if sounds are enabled or disabled by default, but I am curious as to the reason for the change. Was it by chance a performance/technical issue of some kind or simply a preference choice?
Just clarify - the sound wasn't disabled per se... The WAV file used was just changed to a blank one. That's my understanding. There's a topic in the Development subforum about the changes to Carbon.
Anyway, as Buzz said, you just need to swap the WAV file with one you want. Super simple.
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Good to know. Thank you.
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Odd.. I dont have a "themes" folder. All I see within EmulationStation are "downloaded_images" and "gamelists."
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Start your system with kodi, when you power your Pi 3, this has helped me with the same problem you are talking about... when I'm in Kodi and want to play games, I just say exit out of kodi.... don't know how but it works...
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@BuZz i actually liked it but i switched it to something even more annoying, the super mario bros. coin sound. :)
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@edmaul69, where did you go to find it? I cannot see any folder called "themes" in my ES folder via Windows Network. I have a sound ready to use but I don't know where to place it when exploring files in Retropie.
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@GreenHawk84
I believe you need root permission, and the folder might be hidden as well.Enable root login, set the root password, log in via root in SSH, change the settings to show hidden folders. I can't remember exactly, but this should point you in the right direction.
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if customising the theme, it should be copied from
/etc/emulationstation/themesto/opt/retropie/configs/all/emulationstation/themes/as I mentioned earlier. Otherwise your changes will get overwritten when updating the theme (if you dont care, then feel free - it could also stop updating from working in the future also though)To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first
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Where is the option to turn menu sounds back on again?
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@BuZz said in Updated Retropie - No Menu Sounds:
if customising the theme, it should be copied from
/etc/emulationstation/themesto/opt/retropie/configs/all/emulationstation/themes/as I mentioned earlier. Otherwise your changes will get overwritten when updating the theme (if you dont care, then feel free - it could also stop updating from working in the future also though)i put a theme here based on this suggestion and i cant get it to show up in emulationstation. Works if i put it in /etc/emulationstationlthemes/ though on 4.0 beta 2. I would like to do it this way...
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i liked the sounds, weird that you chose to remove them, since there's an option in menu to disable them if you dont like them
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@KiloPIE said in Updated Retropie - No Menu Sounds:
Where is the option to turn menu sounds back on again?
Read my comment earlier in the thread:
@Concat said in Updated Retropie - No Menu Sounds:
It doesn't bother me one way or another if sounds are enabled or disabled by default, but I am curious as to the reason for the change. Was it by chance a performance/technical issue of some kind or simply a preference choice?
Just clarify - the sound wasn't disabled per se... The WAV file used was just changed to a blank one. That's my understanding. There's a topic in the Development subforum about the changes to Carbon.
Anyway, as Buzz said, you just need to swap the WAV file with one you want. Super simple.
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it's not weird - the theme designer made a choice - it's his design.
We may consider adding back a quieter / shorter navigation sound though, but please understand that things like this are subjective. Like with video smoothing. No matter what the default is, people will complain.
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@Concat It's not "super" simple though is it. Super simple, and logical, would have been to have an options to easily toggle it back on again
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My comment about it being simple wasn't meant to be patronizing :/ I said it to encourage users who might be intimidated by the process to spend some time to set it up the way they want.
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@Concat No worries I didn't find it patronising. I know exactly what to do to get sounds back and it is fairly easy.
I just think It's absurd a system like retropie, of which It's core principles are to give people multiple options and ease of use, and patch by patch keeps getting more customizable, has had something like menu sounds removed with no option implemented to toggle them back on. Especially when there was an option to turn them off when they were on by default.
Also I don't see how this can be compared to the video smoothing change, which does have an easy to access option to toggle on/off...
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Where did you read those core principles ? or did you make them up ?
There is no such thing.
The designer decided he didn't want the sample. I already said we may look into re-adding another default sound (one less loud/annoying).
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in the meantime you can switch theme or customise it yourself.
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Actually, the option in ES to reduce sound volume is applied system-wide. So turning the sound off resulted in reducing the volume of all of your games, too. So there wasn't actually any way to turn it off. Has that changed, recently?
There was a major discussion of sounds and an overwhelming number of people mentioned they couldn't stand the sound. So the sound was replaced by a silent wav file. You can overwrite it with what ever wav you want to use.
I've personally never had any issues with editing the files of the theme directly, even though the developers strongly condemn it. Use whatever method you want to gain write access to /etc/emulationstation/themes/es-theme-carbon-master/art/scroll.wav. (Please don't kill me if this isn't the exact name of the folder, as I don't actually insert themes into the retropie code.) And replace the scroll.wav with what ever WAV you want. The original sound file is still there if you want to use it. Delete "scroll.wav" and rename "scroll-old.wav" to "scroll.wav".
Please note: the sound was removed because of the limitations with the ES "sound" option that actually reduces system volume, and an overwhelming volume of complaints about the sound. "I love the sound" has not been something I've ever heard in my life. LOL.
If ES has been changed where the sound volume ONLY affects ES, then I can re-add the sound effect and let users manipulate the volume from inside ES. Can anyone verify this for me? Turn the volume of ES sounds completely down, then play a game. Try a couple systems. Let me know if those games play sound. If they do, we're in business :D
In the future, I could probably edit the theme to access a sound file from somewhere in the /home/pi/RetroPie folders so users could change the sound through samba.
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There is an option in ES to enable/disable sounds also. (under the volume)
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