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    Can my usb device have data on it already?

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    • mediamogulM
      mediamogul Global Moderator @cyperghost
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      @cyperghost said in Can my usb device have data on it already?:

      Maybe a linux pro just taunts me now as noob

      I hope you don't think I was taunting you, as that was definitely not my intent. However, if you're also mistaking me for a Linux professional, I might have to roll with it and add the title to my business cards right next to "Bikini Inspector".

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      • cyperghostC
        cyperghost @mediamogul
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        @mediamogul
        No no... you were not taunting me :)
        No problem

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        • mediamogulM
          mediamogul Global Moderator @cyperghost
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          @cyperghost

          Ah, good. I can still call myself a "Bikini Inspector" though, right? ;)

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          • dankcushionsD
            dankcushions Global Moderator @cyperghost
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            @cyperghost said in Can my usb device have data on it already?:

            @mediamogul

            ahhh yes.... I totally agree.
            To avoid the fact that only with linking on a fat32 device the file permissions are gone and you're unable to launch bash files, then just edit the es_systems.cfgand add a bash next to the <command>y section. Then you're allowed to execute bash scripts even on linked fat32 device.

            would this have a side-effect for people not using fat32/mapped drives? seems like a useful default if not!

            As I said, linking to the roms folder is just a neat solution and you don't have to be being a linux professional :)

            it's how I used to do it :) I think they're much the same in terms of results and number of steps. interested to hear from any "Linux professionals" as to what is actually 'best'

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            • cyperghostC
              cyperghost @dankcushions
              last edited by cyperghost

              @dankcushions afaik as I know - No.
              Because it does not matter how you execute a shell-script. I know 3 ways in doing this

              • chmod -x and direkt call via ./script.sh
              • bash script.sh
              • sh script.sh

              Both sh und bash are shells. I do not know which one is better, but so far everthing is working as long as the sh or bash package is installed.

              As you see FAT32 does not know file permissions, so you can not CHMOD a FAT32 script. Exceptions of this rule apply, if you do the mounting per fstab :) So I also think we can use this behaviour as standard. I am also sure this would work on NTFS, any UNIX-FS can be CHMODed. FAT32 gives the great chance to transfer huge files (ISO Images) directly to needed device by just plugging a USB-Stick to your PC.

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              • mediamogulM
                mediamogul Global Moderator @dankcushions
                last edited by mediamogul

                @dankcushions said in Can my usb device have data on it already?:

                I think they're much the same in terms of results

                The only exception to this would be the elements in RetroPie that don't entirely reference the es_systems.cfg file for rom location. When any technical issues arise, it will always be a good idea to mention that this particular method of rom migration was used in order to expedite the troubleshooting process. As far as I know, these issues will only come up when using the Amiga emulators, BasiliskII, Daphne, DOSBox, ScummVM and possibly a few of the ports, but it's still worth noting.

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                • dankcushionsD
                  dankcushions Global Moderator @mediamogul
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                  @mediamogul can you be more specific ? which method has a problem with direct rom locations - mounting USB as /home/pi/RetroPie, symbolic linking USB as /home/pi/Retropie, or both?

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                  • cyperghostC
                    cyperghost @dankcushions
                    last edited by cyperghost

                    @dankcushions Well I think he talks about the issues in searching errors via this forum.
                    There are several ways to change the location to the roms.

                    1. use fstab
                    2. change the es_system.cfg
                    3. use symbolic link

                    but you have always tell the forum members what you have done and what kind of file format on your usb-stick you are using. If there are some issues with the linking, then it will be the Amiga, Daphne, DosBox, ScummVM and Ports. I can only admit, that the Ports work flawless if you add to the es_system.cfg a BASH or SH command.

                    Usually 99% of the users use the Console Emulators so there are no issues and linking is an easy way in handling ROMS.

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                    • mediamogulM
                      mediamogul Global Moderator @dankcushions
                      last edited by mediamogul

                      @dankcushions

                      which method has a problem with direct rom locations

                      Neither actually. I thought you were making reference to simply altering the es_systems.cfgfile, which I admit kind of surprised me. Both mounting and sym-linking an external roms folder to ~/RetroPie/roms should of course work in any situation imaginable. I misread an earlier post and was continuing on with the same misunderstanding here. Sorry for the confusion.

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                      • dankcushionsD
                        dankcushions Global Moderator @mediamogul
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                        @mediamogul said in Can my usb device have data on it already?:

                        @dankcushions

                        which method has a problem with direct rom locations

                        Neither actually. I thought you were making reference to simply altering the es_systems.cfgfile, which I admit kind of surprised me. Both mounting and sym-linking an external roms folder to ~/RetroPie/roms should of course work in any situation imaginable. I misread an earlier post and was continuing on with the same misunderstanding here. Sorry for the confusion.

                        thought so :) that's fine.

                        to confirm, the only know downsides to the recommended method:

                        • bash issue mentioned above (i'm still not sure that applies to direct mounting, or whether there's any side effect if it was a default for ALL retropie installs)
                        • can't use internal symlinks on FAT32 drive (eg, the way latest advmame symlinks /RetroPie/roms/arcade/advmame/cfg/ to /RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/cfg/(etc)

                        editing es_systems.cfg is not recommended for a bunch of reasons, but using a symlink is probably ok

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                        • cyperghostC
                          cyperghost
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                          Can we pin this post? Or add the symlinking inkl. bash to the wiki?
                          The info in this thread seems to be very valueable.

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                          • dankcushionsD
                            dankcushions Global Moderator @cyperghost
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                            @cyperghost said in Can my usb device have data on it already?:

                            Can we pin this post? Or add the symlinking inkl. bash to the wiki?
                            The info in this thread seems to be very valueable.

                            personally i'd prefer we only have one method of mounting USB drives in the wiki so less to support. no point having two if they both achieve the same thing.

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