Is Glide no longer the "Go To" emulator for N64?

scrappbrapp

I can't tell you what discernible version of RetroPie I'm running, but I recently did an update or two after reading about the "input lag fix" for NES/SNES... I had done a specific update to those particular emulators, but then ended up checking to see if retropie had an entire update, and judging by how long it took, I assume my whole retropie has been updated. That was maybe a month ago.

I just now decided to pop on some N64 games over my recent SNES binge, and right away I noticed heavy graphics clipping if things got too close to the screen, or a more specific example, in Mario Kart, I had this HUGE gray "fog of war" disk RIGHT in the front of the kart/screen.

I started freaking out thinking I fried my Pi, but I went ahead and swapped everything over to the Rice emulator, and everything is playing perfect again.

Is this a glitch, or is this just the new better emulator to use?

mediamogul

@scrappbrapp

The state of N64 emulation in general is that many different combinations of emulators and plugins produce better behavior in some games than in others. Glide is indeed the optimal choice on most games, mostly for it's speed, but it will always produce some downright bizarre effects in certain games. Work is being done on many fronts to create a more reliable N64 emulator, but as it stands, the options currently found in RetroPie are all needed at different times and are many times not even enough to play the entire library.

gizmo98

Please update RetroPie-Setup and mupen64plus. Mupen64plus was updated yesterday and should run better now. There were so much changes last month which should improve speed and compatibility.

The huge gray "fog of war" glitch is solved.

scrappbrapp

@mediamogul

I figured as much. I know that n64 is possibly the poster child when people use the word "experimental" but I was surprised to not see anything mentioned lately about the recent glitchyness of glide, when it seemed to be the choice to use currently. I just wanted to throw that out there incase it was flying under the radar.

Thanks again for the post.

scrappbrapp

@gizmo98

I'm actually doing a retropie update as we speak. I told it to "update all" as I'm assuming that will catch the mupen64 update, or do I need to further dig and specifically update mupen64?

gizmo98

You can use update all. To be honest i do not use this option often. If the whole system runs fine I just update emulators which could benefit from an update. Never change a running system ;-).

scrappbrapp

Thank you @gizmo98 . After this time I'll stop this silliness and just focus on emulator updates. (I backed up last night, so I must just be feeling frisky.)

scrappbrapp

@gizmo98 , one other thing.... When I go to "update packages" for updating specific emulators, whats the difference between "update from binary" and "update from source" ?

I never know which to choose, I usually go for Binary.

mediamogul

@scrappbrapp said in Is Glide no longer the "Go To" emulator for N64?:

whats the difference between "update from binary" and "update from source"

The "binary" is the last compiled stable version, whereas the "Source" contains the absolute latest software changes as they are introduced.

Edit: The binary install is also faster, as it doesn't have to be compiled first.

scrappbrapp

Thank you for helping with that @mediamogul . I just dont know some of these things.

mediamogul

@scrappbrapp said in Is Glide no longer the "Go To" emulator for N64?:

I just dont know some of these things.

Now you do. And knowing is half the battle... Transformers!

RetroResolution

@mediamogul also, using source requires compilation of the code by your Raspberry Pi, which can take a long time indeed on the larger emulators. The binaries are pre-compiled, hence far quicker to install.

gizmo98

Thanks @mediamogul!

Concat

I was all excited to show my girlfriend how I got N64 all set up in RetroPie, and do you know what the first thing she asked me was?

"That's nice. Do you have Pokémon Snap on there?"

My eye started twitching.

scrappbrapp

I went through all my install/setup/overclock/tweak troubles specifically for N64, and the first thing My girlfriend said was "Wheres Inspector Gadget for SNES?" At least yours plays the N64.

I'm just gonna build her a Pi Zero and tell her to go away.....

scrappbrapp

holy cow!!!! Hydro Thunder works now!!!!! Does anyone know this???

Still no Rogue Squadron, or Stunt Racer it seems though.....

EDIT: Wait.... stunt racer is loading up the menu.... Maybe its gonna work.... I switched to Rice.

I'll have to tinker with Rogue Squadron in a second as well....

gizmo98

I have not tested stunt racer but rogue squadron does not run rudimentary with any video plugin. I would be glad if you find any good setting.

scrappbrapp

I got through a buggy rogue squad menu system, but then crashed to retropie... Stunt racer starts to load menu, but never does.... At least Hydro Thunder now works.

Concat

Honestly, half the fun is getting it all to work :)

I spent hours getting all these old dos games to work on my tablet, and mapping mouse controls to a gamepad for 1st person shooters... when it was all said and done, playing the games had less "replayability" than the excitement of setting it all up and making it work the way I wanted it to! Haha...

scrappbrapp

Tell me about it.... after trudging through over a 1000 SNES games, trying to clean up all the BAD stuff (I got down to 223, and still need to go back over.) I sat around bored like.... "what do I do now? I dont wanna play any of these games."

I got 800 n64 games down to 100, and now Im working on NES, but at 1000 again, I'm just mass selecting and deleting whatever I dont have first hand memories of as a kid.