Sensible World of Soccer

dirty_monkee · 19 Sept 2018, 12:01

Hi again.

I have retropie running on Ubuntu and want to play SWOS (Amiga) and want to know the easiest way to get this running. I basically wanna select the game in emulation station and play using joystick controls. If this isn't possible I will happily play it outside of retropie/emulation station.

I think I have multiple choices all of which I have unsuccessfully tried.
FS-UAE
DOSBOX
Using WINE on ubuntu to run SWOS.exe file.

Any guides/suggestions/pointing in the right direction?

tuki_cat · 19 Sept 2018, 15:51

@dirty_monkee

Hi ,

Easiest way to get this running is the Amiga emulator Amiberry.

The docs on the Retropie home page tell you how to install it. You then have the option to run it from the .adf files (disc) or you can use a WHDload file.

Check here for instructions

https://github.com/midwan/amiberry/wiki

dirty_monkee · 19 Sept 2018, 15:54

Thanks. I am not on the Rasberry Pi (using Ubuntu)so I think Amiberry is off my list. It done show up in the list to install in Retropie setup.

I will look at the link provided anyhow and see what if I can get this to run.

At this early stage of emulation Im not sure what a WHDload file is.

tuki_cat · 19 Sept 2018, 16:01

@dirty_monkee

According to the Amiberry page you can install it in a Ubuntu distro.

However, Amiberry is for machines with an ARM processor. Do you know what processor you are running? If it is X86 then that is the reason Amiberry is not showing up.

WHDLoad files are like Amiga install files. It allow you to run Amiga games with disk swapping, loading times are also reduced.

dirty_monkee · 19 Sept 2018, 17:03

@tuki_cat
Yeah it’s X86. Outta luck

What’s my next best option?

tuki_cat · 19 Sept 2018, 17:31

@dirty_monkee

I would say FS-UAE but I have limit experience of it I'm afraid.

MadRikXIV · 19 Sept 2018, 18:48

@dirty_monkee said in Sensible World of Soccer:

Hi again.

I have retropie running on Ubuntu and want to play SWOS (Amiga) and want to know the easiest way to get this running. I basically wanna select the game in emulation station and play using joystick controls. If this isn't possible I will happily play it outside of retropie/emulation station.

I think I have multiple choices all of which I have unsuccessfully tried.
FS-UAE
DOSBOX
Using WINE on ubuntu to run SWOS.exe file.

Any guides/suggestions/pointing in the right direction?

If using FS-UAE have you altered the Amiga Machine settings?

Try to set it to emulate at least a 600?

I know back before WHDLoad, Swos would give me issues launching and being stable (But that was back on an original XBox)

Is it possible to use HDF (Hard drive files)on FS UAE?

dirty_monkee · 19 Sept 2018, 19:16

@madrikxiv fs-uae is not recognising and adf or lbs files, either zipped or unzipped.

Have it running on A1200.

I can load adf files directly but game loads slow and don’t fully load after “loading song”

dudleydes · 19 Sept 2018, 19:56

@dirty_monkee Some time ago, I tried to get SWOS running in DOSBox and FS-UAE on my Linux Mint PC, though without using EmulationStation. I think success using either came down to how familiar I was with the original OS and hardware.

I'm familiar with DOS commands, having used them back in '90s, so setting up DOSBox was straightforward. Originally I used a shell script, swos.sh to launch SWOS with the following contents:

 #!/bin/bash
dosbox -conf "/path/to/swos.conf" -c "cd SWOS" -c "SWS.EXE" -c "exit"

The conf file swos.conf had the name of mapper file that mapped my controller for SWOS. More info on mapping a controller in DOSBox here.

DOSBox now supports launching games directly using a .conf file so you could replace the shell script above with swos.conf to launch SWOS directly from ES. The contents of the file would be similar to below with the paths to files and data amended:

 mapperfile=/path/to/swos.map
 
[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
# You can put your MOUNT lines here.
 
mount c /path/to/pc-data
c:
cd swos
SWS.EXE
exit

I have just tried the shell scripts that I had created to launch SWOS in FS-UAE using .adf files and they're not working. I did manage to get Kick Off 2 working using a shell script but I gave up after that and stuck with the DOS version of SWOS. I put my lack of success down to being completely unfamiliar with the Amiga hardware and OS.

All of this irrelevant now because of the availability of Amiberry and WHDLoad autobooting for the Pi. It's as close to plug and play Amiga emulation can get with SWOS running out of the box. There is no need to configure controller as Amiberry make use of RetroArch configs to automatically set up your controller.

Oddly enough, loading Kick Off 2 in Amiberry seems as quick, if not quicker than on my Desktop using FS-UAE.

dirty_monkee · 19 Sept 2018, 20:04

@dudleydes
Dudley thanks for that very detailed reply.

I think I’ve got too many things going against me to make this possible. This arcade/project is my first (apart from simple emulation a few years back) and may sell/reuse what I’ve already built (see one of my other posts) in order to build another using raspberry pi. This way I can use Amiberry which keeps coming up on here and google searches.

tuki_cat · 20 Sept 2018, 07:43

@dirty_monkee

Hi,

A Pi would be the way to go.

If you are referring to the cabinet in this thread -

https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/19238/my-arcade-build/4

Why sell it all and start again? Could you not connect a Pi to this setup?

Cabinet looks great by the way!

dirty_monkee · 20 Sept 2018, 11:48

@tuki_cat
Yeah that’s mine.

I have a raspberry pi that I can use inside this.... however.

I had issues with the tv getting correct aspect ratio from raspberry pi. (overscan) The base of the tv was also where the speaker was kept which had to be removed so sound would of been an issue.

This Cab, although I feel It is looking good is on the large side as it was initially and arcade from way back when. It’s heavy and I’ve snuck (not so sneakily) moved it into the house while the wife was on a night (some men cheat, I build this), she not over the moon with it being in the house, albeit in conservatory. Might need to go back to garage again.

Still plan on finishing it. Then who knows.

tuki_cat · 20 Sept 2018, 13:13

@dirty_monkee

Nice one - I managed to get permission for mine to go in the house on the basis that the colour scheme of the cabinet matched the living room!

dirty_monkee · 20 Sept 2018, 13:25

@tuki_cat
Noted - Will try that. Blend it in.

dirty_monkee · 20 Sept 2018, 20:05

@dirty_monkee
Just an update.
Tried Amiberry on my Pi - No success
Tried Dosbox on Ubuntu running RetroPie - Medium success

Dosbox attempt couldn’t load from EmulationStation as didn’t know which of the file to click. After I had done them all a file called swsengpp worked but not in full screen completely and couldn’t exit for the life of me.

3 hours later = gave up

rbaker · 20 Sept 2018, 20:23

@dirty_monkee Have you followed this thread?
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/12656/amiga-amiberry-whdload-holy-grail-amiberry-s-official-thread

dirty_monkee · 21 Sept 2018, 17:59

@rbaker tried this. Didn’t have a _BootWHD/Devs/Kickstarts folder

And the rest plainly didn’t make no sense.

rbaker · 21 Sept 2018, 19:12

@dirty_monkee Well I have not tried WHDLOAD yet but SWOS was one of the first things I tried when I got a Pi. It seemed to launch and play from ADF's, with a standard A500 setup, 1.3 Kickstarter and 1MB configuration. I cant remember if it was UAE or Amiberry though as it was ages ago. Cannon Fodder worked as well. SWIV though did not which was a disappointment.

dirty_monkee · 21 Sept 2018, 21:08

I have got amiberry setup and kickstarts and the relevant lha.

Now what? Where do the kickstarts go, what do i change the name too. I can get emulation station to finally find these now by adding .lha to es_systems.cfg but they load into either blue amiga screen or some AROS screen with a few lines of text depending on where I put my kick starts.

I have tried all conflicting instructions and watched videos from etaprime and floob.

Out of ideas.... hopefully not out of reach

dudleydes · 21 Sept 2018, 21:43

@dirty_monkee Ignore any You Tube videos - they will no doubt be out of date.

This is the official guide for using Amiberry WHDBooter with RetroPie: https://github.com/midwan/amiberry/wiki/Using-Amiberry-WHDBooter-with-RetroPie

From the kickstarts section of the guide, the kickstart roms should be placed in the BIOS folder, /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/. The two kickstart roms you will need are Kickstart 1.3 and Kickstart 3.1. There is no need to rename them as they are recognised by their checksums.

You shouldn't need to add the lha extension to es_systems.cfg as it should be added when installing Amiberry, unless you are using a custom es_systems.cfg in /opt/retropie/configs/all/emulationstation.

The name of the file I am using for SWOS is SensibleWorldOfSoccer9697_v1.7_0842.lha

If your controller doesn't work by default once you have SWOS running then try re-installing Amiberry from source.

	#!/bin/bash
	dosbox -conf "/path/to/swos.conf" -c "cd SWOS" -c "SWS.EXE" -c "exit"

	mapperfile=/path/to/swos.map

	[autoexec]
	# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
	# You can put your MOUNT lines here.

	mount c /path/to/pc-data
	c:
	cd swos
	SWS.EXE
	exit