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    [PI3B+ & Retropie 4.4.4] Limit on Roms stored?

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    • mituM
      mitu Global Moderator @magicfly
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      @magicfly Follow the docs - https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Running-ROMs-from-a-USB-drive/ - to run your ROMs from an USB drive and don't rely on the 'Easy...'. How large is your external disk ?

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      • magicflyM
        magicfly @mitu
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        @mitu said in [PI3B+ & Retropie 4.4.4] Limit on Roms stored?:

        @magicfly Follow the docs - https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Running-ROMs-from-a-USB-drive/ - to run your ROMs from an USB drive and don't rely on the 'Easy...'. How large is your external disk ?

        should i follow the manual method?
        My hd is 1TB, and it's a WD elements portable see here

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        • BuZzB
          BuZz administrators @mitu
          last edited by BuZz

          Looking at the code briefly for the toolkit I would definitely not recommend running anything from it. A right mess.

          I don't think we should offer support for anyone who has run this.

          To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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          • magicflyM
            magicfly @BuZz
            last edited by magicfly

            oh well, you convinced me to uninstall it; this is just why i didn't know it was so dangerous.. :)
            btw thank you, i'll try the manual mode. just a question, do you suggest to use ntfs or fat32 (i'm on windows...) Thanks.

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              omen_peter @magicfly
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              @magicfly said in [PI3B+ & Retropie 4.4.4] Limit on Roms stored?:

              @mitu said in [PI3B+ & Retropie 4.4.4] Limit on Roms stored?:

              @magicfly Follow the docs - https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Running-ROMs-from-a-USB-drive/ - to run your ROMs from an USB drive and don't rely on the 'Easy...'. How large is your external disk ?

              should i follow the manual method?
              My hd is 1TB, and it's a WD elements portable see here

              I use a WD Elements external HDD mounted using the automatic method. It's NTFS formatted and works fine for me. Worked straight out of the box (no additional formatting required).

              Raspberry Pi3 Model B V1.2
              16 GB Micro SD Card (OS), 4TB WD Elements Portable HDD (Roms)
              5V 3.0A Power Supply
              RetroPie V4.7.7, EmulationStation V2.9.6RP, RetroArch V1.8.8
              1 x Sonnics i8 Mini Keyboard (Wireless), 4 x Wii U Pro Controllers (Bluetooth)

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              • mituM
                mitu Global Moderator @magicfly
                last edited by mitu

                @magicfly Use Fat32 if you can. The only limit is the 4Gb per-file limit, but since you're running on a PI, I assume you don't want to run Wii/GC games.

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                • magicflyM
                  magicfly @omen_peter
                  last edited by

                  @omen_peter how many roms do you have?

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                  • cyperghostC
                    cyperghost @BuZz
                    last edited by

                    @BuZz said in [PI3B+ & Retropie 4.4.4] Limit on Roms stored?:

                    Looking at the code briefly for the toolkit I would definitely not recommend running anything from it. A right mess.

                    I don't think we should offer support for anyone who has run this.

                    As I said: Eazy Hax 4 da 1337z
                    I did not take a deep look, but it uses SSH remote scripts. So I stand to my sentence

                    And there are good reasons that it is not installable by RetroPie itself.

                    I think it would also to be a good idea to explain in the FAQ why you should use suggestions made. So the advantage for FAT32 is the 100% compatibilty for a wide spread of Operating Systems (Unix, Mac and Windows)
                    NTFS is a proprietary file system ......
                    My personal experience with Raspbian it is awfully slow for file operations and only usefull if you need symlinks (this is not possible with FAT)

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                      omen_peter @magicfly
                      last edited by omen_peter

                      @magicfly said in [PI3B+ & Retropie 4.4.4] Limit on Roms stored?:

                      @omen_peter how many roms do you have?

                      Well I certainly can't match your total (got to be some kind of record?), but I have a few thousand (more once I look into getting FBA and MAME running - hopefully in next month or so).

                      With regards to formatting, there are many on this forum that are more tech savvy than me. I mean, I had no idea what a proprietary file system was. Looked it up and I'm still none the wiser. At the end of the day though, I bought my HDD solely for use with RetroPie. I have a Windows 10 PC at home that makes it very easy to manage and backup my roms, game saves etc... so is perfect for what I use it for.

                      Hope you get your system working.

                      Raspberry Pi3 Model B V1.2
                      16 GB Micro SD Card (OS), 4TB WD Elements Portable HDD (Roms)
                      5V 3.0A Power Supply
                      RetroPie V4.7.7, EmulationStation V2.9.6RP, RetroArch V1.8.8
                      1 x Sonnics i8 Mini Keyboard (Wireless), 4 x Wii U Pro Controllers (Bluetooth)

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                      • magicflyM
                        magicfly
                        last edited by

                        Ok. i've just backed up my 500GB of roms on my notebook.
                        Maybe it's better to reimage my SD with the default retropie image, format my external disk with fat32 and try the second manual method.
                        I'll give you news. Thanks for now everybody!

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                        • zefolhadelaZ
                          zefolhadela
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                          yaiks maybe that is my problem aswell cause i add two new systems and a lot of games and none works if those are in the USB

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                          • magicflyM
                            magicfly
                            last edited by

                            Ok. Just formatted with FAT32, connected to the PI and reimaged my sd with the official retropie image.
                            Now i'm stuck here:

                            1505299351-photo-13-09-2017-12-35-27.jpg

                            Later, I'll try disconnecting the hard disk at the boot, configuring wifi and country and try to reconnect with the PI completely configured.

                            Thanks for now :)

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                            • magicflyM
                              magicfly @zefolhadela
                              last edited by

                              @zefolhadela said in [PI3B+ & Retropie 4.4.4] Limit on Roms stored?:

                              yaiks maybe that is my problem aswell cause i add two new systems and a lot of games and none works if those are in the USB

                              can you tell me the amount of roms on disk? thanks!

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                              • zefolhadelaZ
                                zefolhadela @magicfly
                                last edited by

                                @magicfly not that much. I was using easy hax and i change for the oficial rom tranfer so i have my games stored in the pendrive. But know when i store all my psx games to de pendrive, i put the pen in the pi and the psx roms are gonne.. having just 10psx games of 100psx games . I dont knoe why this is happening

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                                • magicflyM
                                  magicfly
                                  last edited by magicfly

                                  Hi,
                                  i followed the manual method using my hard drive with NTFS.
                                  Don't know what was happening when it was formatted with FAT32 but i got the error 0x80070052 after a lot of roms where copied (googled for half a day but no solution found) so i went back with NTFS, and now every time i launch a rom, emulationstation freezes...just hit F4 and restart from bash with emulationstation

                                  this is my fstab:
                                  proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
                                  PARTUUID=f2d3cb4f-01 /boot vfat defaults 0 2
                                  PARTUUID=f2d3cb4f-02 / ext4 defaults,noatime 0 1
                                  a swapfile is not a swap partition, no line here
                                  use dphys-swapfile swap[on|off] for that
                                  UUID=F6381E5F381E1EE5 /home/pi/RetroPie ntfs nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 2

                                  is it correct?

                                  this is from es_log.txt
                                  lvl2: Attempting to launch game...
                                  lvl2: /opt/retropie/supplementary/runcommand/runcommand.sh 0 SYS fba /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/fba/1942a.zip
                                  lvl1: ...launch terminated with nonzero exit code -1!
                                  lvl2: Creating surface...
                                  lvl2: Created window successfully.
                                  lvl2: Added unconfigured joystick Microsoft X-Box 360 pad (GUID: 030000005e0400008e02000010010000, instance ID: 0, device index: 0).
                                  lvl2: Added unconfigured joystick Microsoft X-Box 360 pad (GUID: 030000005e0400008e02000010010000, instance ID: 0, device index: 0).

                                  any idea what's happening?thanks

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                                  • mituM
                                    mitu Global Moderator @magicfly
                                    last edited by mitu

                                    @magicfly As I said in my first post - do you have enough memory available ?
                                    There might be an error be in the /dev/shm/runcommand.log file, check that file also. ES launches Runcommand, but Runcommand is unable to start the game

                                    lvl2: /opt/retropie/supplementary/runcommand/runcommand.sh 0 SYS fba /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/fba/1942a.zip
                                    lvl1: ...launch terminated with nonzero exit code -1!
                                    
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                                    • magicflyM
                                      magicfly @mitu
                                      last edited by magicfly

                                      @mitu Hi, there's no runcommand. log in that folder so i think that file hasn't been written because the rom hasn't launched at all. any other thing i can check?

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                                      • mituM
                                        mitu Global Moderator @magicfly
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                                        @magicfly You can check the system log, via dmesg, if there are any OOM errors or other process starting warnings.

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                                        • ClydeC
                                          Clyde @mitu
                                          last edited by

                                          @mitu said in [PI3B+ & Retropie 4.4.4] Limit on Roms stored?:

                                          @magicfly You can check the system log, via dmesg, if there are any OOM errors or other process starting warnings.

                                          @magicfly In addition to that, you can use grep to show only those lines of dmesg that contain a specific term. Examples from my Pi's Retropie:

                                          $ dmesg | grep warning
                                          [    4.826054] random: 7 urandom warning(s) missed due to ratelimiting
                                          $ dmesg | grep memory
                                          [    0.000000] Virtual kernel memory layout:
                                          [    0.001599] Disabling memory control group subsystem
                                          [    0.176509] BCM2708FB: allocated DMA memory ef910000
                                          [    0.263815] vc-sm: Videocore shared memory driver
                                          [    1.217152] Freeing unused kernel memory: 1024K
                                          

                                          Just type dmesg | grep and the word(s) you want grep to search for in dmesg's output.

                                          The vertical bar is the Unix Pipeline, also called "pipe", that passes the output of one command (here: dmesg) to another (here: grep).

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                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            What @Clyde said :). What I usually do is clear the log buffer with sudo dmesg -c, try to reproduce the error condition, then run dmesg again just to see the new added messages.

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