Backdrops in mame2003-plus

grant2258

@clyde can you take a screenshot with Ra make sure gpu enable is on (if you dont know what this is its already on) and post here I just want to confirm you ra is outputting this res if it is all add this resolution to the current new ones ive set for vectors.

"Vector resolution (Restart core); 1024x768|640x480|1280x960|1440x1080|original");

this is what we have so far dont mind adding your resolution this means mame will render at that resolution it also means you dont need to turn bi linlear filtering on when you used your default res

Clyde

@grant2258 I can do that after I get back from work, stay tuned.

grant2258

@clyde i just put a pull request in to add it for you. Just keep an eye on it for being merged then just update.

https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/pull/656

if you havent updated in a while please clear your mame2003-plus/cfg as updates to the input system (dual configs on for legacy and one for none legacy) where implemented so you can swap modes without messing the other one up.

suggested setting for you or anyone else using a monitor native resolution

mame2003-plus_vector_antialias = "enabled"
mame2003-plus_vector_beam_width = "1"
mame2003-plus_vector_flicker = "20"
mame2003-plus_vector_intensity = "1.5"
mame2003-plus_vector_translucency = "enabled"

and for you mame2003-plus_vector_resolution = "1600x1200"

UDb23

@Clyde radar text: it’s not a matter of effort, if you prefer centered radar and no text I can remove the text and place the radar higher. Just let me know. For the 1080p version I prefer to keep the original cardboard ‘integrity’.

Clyde

@grant2258 Here are two screenshots, the first one with vector resolution 1024x768 and the second one with 1600x1200. I don't know what gpu enable is, so according to you it should be on. ;)

The 1600x1200 one looks much more crisp, so thank you very much for adding that vector resolution. What exactly is the resolution "original"?

My mame2003-plus/cfg is pretty full with .cfg files. What will I lose if I delete or rename it? And which modes to swap do you mean?

@UDb23 I prefer beauty over integrity, so I won't miss the "RADAR" sign if the radar will be correctly cut out instead. :)

UDb23

@Clyde will work on it on WE then.
And related UV versions too.

Riverstorm

@Clyde - You're a scholar, thanks for the date and other tips. I think it will be very useful and will simplify needing to rename every file. The icing on the cake would be getting raspi2png to trigger with a keyboard shortcut and not needing a "laptop" solely to SSH and get a screenshot.

@UDb23 - I thought of you the other night watching a movie named Polar who's main protagonist was a retired cold war assassin named "The Black Kaiser". :)

Also they just closed us down due to weather, no snow, sheer temps and high winds are creating blizzard conditions. We are supposed to bottom out with cold tonight again. We are getting pounded with cold pretty hard this year. It sure doesn't feel like global warming. ;)

Clyde

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

The icing on the cake would be getting raspi2png to trigger with a keyboard shortcut and not needing a "laptop" solely to SSH and get a screenshot.

@mitu already posted a tip about keyboard solution in my other thread, but alas, I won't have time to test it before the weekend.

We are getting pounded with cold pretty hard this year. It sure doesn't feel like global warming. ;)

*dons his scholar hat* Why Global Warming Can Mean Harsher Winter Weather :)

Take care, I wish you all the best.

Riverstorm

Clyde you crack me up! I was being facetious but at least now I may articulate the difference between weather and climate. That last paragraph about "wasting" fossil fuels by turning up the heat and just when I need it the most. =/

We have wind gusts up to 50MPH/80KHM so it's creating severe ground blizzards. It looks like it's snowing and foggy-ish due to snow being whipped around. They even shut down the airports. We are at a stand still until the wind dies down.

If you don't modify your inputs (TAB menu) from the defaults wiping your .cfg files shouldn't matter. They are created when you launch a game (even when you don't change anything from the defaults).

If you have a lot of customization you might want to screenshot each one before wiping them. Well just the ones that have been changed.

The different modes I can't explain very well.

grant2258

Well the cfg files made are for game inputs dips and sound mixer settings ect. I myself cant explain none legacy mode all it does is hide the tab menu so you can set anything in mame you will need to ask mark how you set stuff up with no tab menu and its not mapped in mame because the config files are seperate.

All i did was separate the modes so they save there own config files. You need to restart when switching from legacy and none legacy all this done was cause an extra layer of confusion but lets people setup there mame the normal way(legacy) the tab menu or(none legacy) marks way.

You need to delete you old mame20030plus cfg files the format of the cfg changed to be compatible with mame078 format.

Clyde

@Riverstorm @grant2258 Thanks for your explanations. I've renamed my cfg directory to cfg.backup if I may ever need one of the old files. It will go into my backup the next time, then I'll delete the cfg.backup from the original. The incremental backup is set to delete old snapshots after six month, that should be enough time to notice anything that I'll miss.

UDb23

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

...high winds are creating blizzard conditions.

That's a really tough winter this year in your area!

With all that cold already, I wound't watch a movie called Polar ! :-))

Clyde

@UDb23 said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

With all that cold already, I wound't watch a movie called Polar ! :-))

Or Snowpiercer. 😄

UDb23

@Clyde lol

Riverstorm

@UDb23 @Clyde - There's definitely some irony in watching a movie named Polar in this weather such as this. It's a Netflix original that has a lot of gratuitous violence but also some dry comical moments that are pretty funny. It definitely won't be winning any awards but then I hardly watch any award winning movies. I like the one off B-movies. ;)

I was just curious did you guys grow up speaking English as well as your native language. I always thought it was true when they say that you really understand a "second" language when you get the subtle jokes.

UDb23

@Riverstorm Haven't heard of that movie, will check.
Concerning languages I grew up as a kid speaking german and italian; so english is actually 3rd ;-)
I studied it at school for many years of course. When I started learning I was really interested in understanding the lyrics of the (english) songs I loved (no google or internet in the 80's): listening and re-listening and writing down. Sometimes luckily the lyrics were printed on LP's covers. Learned quite a lot on top that way.
As I use english at work on a daily basis it still have chance to find and learn new english expressions. In the forums too as you know :-).

Getting back to backdrops: going to work on Gorf this WE using @grant2258's tips to get better res by "extending" the BD boundaries outside of the game area (forcing mame to generate higher res)

UDb23

@Riverstorm Did your weather conditions improve ?

Clyde

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

I was just curious did you guys grow up speaking English as well as your native language. I always thought it was true when they say that you really understand a "second" language when you get the subtle jokes.

My English comes mostly from books, comics, movies, and games. My school only laid the groundwork if anything. I sometimes joke that I rather could "demand to surrender the tiny speck of rock you puny earthlings have the presumptuousness to call a planet, lest I hurl it into the sun to die a far more quicker death than it deserves" in English than ask for the next bus station or the price of my breakfast on holiday. 😉

Since the dawn of the internet, I also try to hone my language skills in online discussions like this one.

@UDb23 On topic, I'm looking forward to see the results of your (non-radar) Battlezone and Gorf work. 👍

Clyde

@Riverstorm @UDb23 I just stumbled over a funny rap battle about the "correctness" of the various English variants. I posted it in the music thread along with a German cabaret song about how non-native speakers will ruin the language of Shakespeare. 😇

Lyle_JP

I just noticed that the Space Invaders backdrop now automatically loads in Mame 2003-Plus. Might I suggest that you remove sicv from the clones which do this? The color version wasn't meant to be played reflected on a backdrop, and the darker colors are almost invisible. Also, there seems to be an aspect ratio issue with the backdrop, but I'm sure it's been mentioned.