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The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

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    mitu Global Moderator @Brunnis
    last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 17:53

    @Brunnis That means using X.org or just the KMSDRM driver ? RetroPie - at the moment - uses the old VC4 driver (OpenGL ES), without X.org.

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      KN4THX
      last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 17:58

      I am not sure if this has been mentioned but does the addition of USB 3.0 mean significant increases in sdcard read/write speeds?

      "If you're gonna play the Game Boy, You gotta learn to play it right" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLGl92ETNQ

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        thelostsoul @KN4THX
        last edited by thelostsoul 24 Jun 2019, 18:00

        @KN4THX Yes, the USB-3 speed is mentioned and tested here: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b,6193.html
        Here is a quote:

        With a Mushkin 120GB external SSD attached to one of the USB 3 ports, the Pi 4 B managed impressive read and write transfer rates of 363 and 323 MBps respectively. That’s nearly ten times faster than the 3 B+’s marks of 33 and 34 MBps.

        Edit: I just realized you was asking about sdcard speed. A good sdcard reader should be still faster than before, depending on the card and the reader off course.

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          SuperFromND
          last edited by SuperFromND 24 Jun 2019, 18:10

          I have so many things I want to test with this because of that new CPU, my goodness.
          Some of the things not already mentioned elsewhere on this thread that I want to test include:

          • Gnash (I'm not expecting full speed obviously, but it should at least be somewhat more usable)
          • PC-98 (Probably gonna get some decent speeds with a decently high clock multiplier)
          • DOSbox running Windows 3.1 (Mileages may vary on this one, the Pi 3 is technically good enough for this, but speed improvements are still nice to see!)

          Can't wait to get mine to play around with (once RetroPie gets updated for the Pi 4, at least).

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            Headcrab
            last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 18:22

            I've read in a technical pdf that : the Ethernet packets do not need to be repacked into USB packets anymore, thus latency and processing overhead are decreased on the Pi 4

            Let's see if this makes even a tiny difference in applications like moonlight or SteamLink.

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              A Former User @matchaman
              last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 18:42

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                Cornervizion @dankcushions
                last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 19:19

                @dankcushions I think the 3DO could be doable as well as some (but not all) of the Atari Jaguar's library too.

                Personally, It'll be interesting to see how Sega Saturn emulation will improve but given that Mednafen's Saturn core is quite demanding I can't see the same level of compatibility happening on a Pi4 myself. Though that said, some of it's 2D games will run very nicely.

                Also will the improved and updated Reicast be appearing at some point with it's Sammy Atomiswave support?

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                  chubsta
                  last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 19:19

                  All I am interested in is being able to play Gauntlet Legends in MAME - anyone reckon this will be possible without frame rate issues etc?

                  Raspberry Pi 400 - overclocked to 2.3GHz
                  Theme - Comic book
                  Emulators: All of them...
                  Roms: Pretty much all of them...
                  Favourite games: Circus Charlie, Gorf, Gauntlet Legends
                  Controllers: Mayflash F101

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                    Cornervizion @SuperFromND
                    last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 19:20

                    @SuperFromND Hopefully DosBox running with V-Sync would be dandy.

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                      quicksilver @Cornervizion
                      last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 19:21

                      @Cornervizion Currently you can enable dispmanx for dosbox and this takes care of the screen tearing issue.

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                        quicksilver @chubsta
                        last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 19:22

                        @chubsta Only speculation at this point, so no one can say for certain. We'll just have to wait until some of the devs get their hands on one.

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                          Marcel
                          last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 19:32

                          What I'm thinking is: will RetroPie support dual screen? That would be great for building your own NDS. It will be quite a fat one, I'm afraid. Does some frontend support use of dual screen already? If not, how much effort will it be to add it?

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                            Jiryn
                            last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:09

                            I just need a good case for this!
                            I got an alluminum case for my 3, which probably won't fit this.

                            Um, which are better FANS or HEAT SINKS? I've been using the later with my 3B.

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                              Marcel @Jiryn
                              last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:13

                              @Jiryn Using both works best. See

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                                Jiryn @Marcel
                                last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:15

                                @Marcel Doesn't fit my current case.

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                                  quicksilver @Jiryn
                                  last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:16

                                  @Jiryn http://blog.flirc.tv/index.php/2019/06/24/new-pi-4-cases/

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                                    Cornervizion @quicksilver
                                    last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:23

                                    @quicksilver I did attempt it back on my Pi2 but this came at the cost of performance. I might try it again shortly on the Pi3.

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                                      Jiryn
                                      last edited by Jiryn 24 Jun 2019, 20:26

                                      https://i.imgur.com/LYwHilL.png
                                      Here's my current case, yea I couldn't do a fan and heat sinks in it.. but I love the form factor and design.

                                      Those ones you linked look great!

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                                        dd0ck
                                        last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:40

                                        with the Gigabit ethernet, is having big ROMs (PSX, Dreamcast, etc.) stored on a NAS an option? These little SD cards can only hold so much...

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                                          ScottyPsArcade
                                          last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:41

                                          Killer Instinct 1 and 2?! I'll buy just for that... haha

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