Has anyone tried to get MKII PLUS+/UMK3 PLUS+ working?

HoJo215

I'm not sure how to add clones but you can edit the midwunit.cpp before compiling.
This will replace vanilla umk3 with plus but still in umk3.zip form.

	/* sockets U114 through U117 are left empty for this version */

    ROM_LOAD32_BYTE( "umk-u117.bin",  0x1000000, 0x080000, CRC(52ee547e) SHA1(97dba4d6dd503a623dad5709767e4617de211af0) )
    ROM_LOAD32_BYTE( "umk-u116.bin",  0x1000001, 0x080000, CRC(f6df5c98) SHA1(e8317cf46d23738223f034c10f0f6f874d72165f) )
    ROM_LOAD32_BYTE( "umk-u115.bin",  0x1000002, 0x080000, CRC(e003a51b) SHA1(e11c0cb0a9d647f17398b48d0b7d088526a18af8) )
    ROM_LOAD32_BYTE( "umk-u114.bin",  0x1000003, 0x080000, CRC(b8504598) SHA1(fce32581d6ff9e1a7455c30fb10812ba9dc70db5) )

This works on the newest build of mame too since the driver has not changed in a while.

MKIIPlus should just work as long as you patch a recent rom and leave it as mk2.zip

Also, I think fbneo plays those games if you want to go that route.

digitaljjd

I'll give fbneo a try first then try editing the midwunit.cpp . Thanks!

GreenHawk84

I am interested in the results of this. I am also wondering if Pi4 hardware might be the solution to getting Kombat running at current emulation.

arcadez2003

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barbudreadmon

@digitaljjd @HoJo215 I confirm FBNeo supports a ton of mk hacks, including those, however we got a frame duping issue with our tms34010 cpu core (it would require a major rewrite to fix it...) so idk if it's the best emulator to play those games on retropie.

arcadez2003

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HoJo215

As I was saying though, MK2+ works in mame once you patch it. Just don't change the .zip file name. UMK3+ needs the midwunit.cpp edited with the code above in my first post due to the new graphic assets. It will play without it but the title screen will be fubar. I know this because I'm a contributor to the mk plus projects. My real name is in the credits.. and it runs without a hitch in the latest mame. It's funny, I learned to compile strictly for mame and flycast. Now I'm compiling all sorts of things like the new Daphne Singe 1.18 x64 Linux build.. "The more you know"

digitaljjd

@HoJo215 First, sorry it took so long to try this out, work, life, and COVID-19 etc.
So, fbneo did not work for me for some reason(won't even open), but lr-mame2003-plus(of course) does with minor sound issues. I've got some pops etc. with the sound maxed in the test menu. I kept the .zip file name "mk2", not "mk2p". So, it seems to be working overall, but i need to spend some more time with it in between my laundry to see. For those interested i have not messed with UMK3 PLUS yet, but you can always just use a PC and MAME without any problem. It's really worth trying if you are a MKII/UMK3 fan. Thanks HoJo215 and everyone on the MKPLUS project team!

barbudreadmon

@digitaljjd said in Has anyone tried to get MKII PLUS+/UMK3 PLUS+ working?:

fbneo did not work for me for some reason(won't even open)

Bad romset

digitaljjd

@barbudreadmon
Why does that always never occur to me? I've always noticed an incomplete border on the right side of the Shang Tsung bio screen slender black bar on side like an incomplete wallpaper. I just tried 4 different rom downloads of rev L3.1 and they are all the same. 13.0 MB and all have the same error?
Same graphic error on 16.4 MB rom on the internet database, but I'll try it.

see here:https://www.vizzed.com/vizzedboard/retro/user_screenshots/saves11/115622/MK2--Mortal Kombat II rev L31_Jul3 11_20_46.png

barbudreadmon

@digitaljjd as i said, gfx issues in mk games are to be expected if you are using FBNeo, i think the same applies to old mame versions.

Cracktic

I've tried getting this to work in RetroPie for Ubuntu (ZorinOS 15.2 which is Ubuntu 18.04LTS based). I tried adding the 4 lines to the cpp and compiling a standalone version of MAME from MAMEdev but the checksums were wrong on the .u54 and .u63 files. I then tried just dumping the patched umk3.zip into my RetroPie roms folders and none of the arcade emulators would run it. It would just crash back out to the EmulationStation UI.

I could probably try to run their special mame64.exe in WINE or make a windows VM, but good grief I switched to Linux because I've had enough of Windows after 25+ years lol! Any help is appreciated. Thanks! :)

HoJo215

You don't add the 4 lines. You replace them.
Make sure you have an updated rom when you patch the game.

Zoltan45

I have added both games to a few different mame cores, one of which should work on Raspberry Pi 4. These will work with your ROM if you follow the instructions on the website for patching your ROMs and end up with mk2p and umk3p.

https://github.com/Zoltan45/mame2010-midway-plus-libretro

A few notes:

mame 2010 is a dumpster fire compared to other mame retroarch cores.
this game must be compiled on the pi itself, i have not tried to add cross compilation and command line switches I am aware of do not work. I am by all means NOT a know it all with mame so there may be something else to try.
Currently, use the testing branch to compile.
I am aware of the core working for at least two people with a raspberry pi 4 and retropie, but I do not have a device so I personally can not answer questions about setup. I know both have said controls are tough to setup (See #1), but at least one said he finally got it working properly control wise.
The last time I tried FBNEO on my PC it would not boot one of these games, just forget about it until they flesh out their midway emulation.
In general, these two games can be used with any mame 0.119 to current but if you want it running correctly you must add the game as its own entry to mame and the appropriate driver files(which is all I really did). For instance just changing the name of the game will not work for UMK3+. You have to add the game to mame itself for a few different reasons.
Yes I have added the game to FBNEO before, see above.
Yes I have added the game to mame2003plus, there is somethings above my complete understanding that need done in order to work. currently not working.
And to the previous reply, in UMK3+ there are 4 extra roms you have to add to the driver, they do not replace anything.

barbudreadmon

@Zoltan45 said in Has anyone tried to get MKII PLUS+/UMK3 PLUS+ working?:

The last time I tried FBNEO on my PC it would not boot one of these games, just forget about it until they flesh out their midway emulation.

They boot and are named mk2p & umk3pb1 (b1 for beta1)

mahoneyt944

Mortal Kombat 2 Plus Beta 2 and Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 Plus Beta 1 have been officially added to mame2003 and mame2003-plus. Update these emulators from source to play these along with many other enhancements made daily. Now bootstrapped to fix low volume and CMOS errors at boot.

ROM Names

mk2p
umk3p

roslof

@mahoneyt944 said in Has anyone tried to get MKII PLUS+/UMK3 PLUS+ working?:

Mortal Kombat 2 Plus Beta 2 and Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 Plus Beta 1 have been officially added to mame2003 and mame2003-plus. Update these emulators from source to play these along with many other enhancements made daily. Now bootstrapped to fix low volume and CMOS errors at boot.

ROM Names

mk2p

umk3p

Pretty cool. I just set these up with both MAME 2003 (as .7z) and FB-Neo (as .7z). Best of both worlds.