r4 8gb - RetroPie image
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My first foray into the Raspberry pi and I think i'm stuck...
I have a Raspberry Pi4 8Gb - my main reason for the Pi is to ditch my existing jamma board cabinet and use the Pi as a more customisable 'arcade' board.
I've seen there are some, on the face of it, excellent pre-installed images - which I would like to make use of initially just to find my feet.
I've downloaded a 128Gb image - suitable for the r4. However, on trialling, it and a number of other images - there seems to be a significant difference between the workings of a r4 >4Gb and the 8Gb variant.When booting - the pi errors with:
"start4.elf: is not compatible 0x0
This board requires newer software. Get the software from..."(I guess) I need a newer version of RetroPie but I want to keep the rest of the contents on the sd card??
Is there any way of updating the RetroPie instance on my SD card without the Raspberry pi i.e manually copying files from a working RetroPie SD to my Imaged RetroPie SD??
Or... can I boot from a working Raspbian SD card and update RetroPie on an SD card mounted into one of the Pi's USB ports??
Or... is there anything simpler/smarter I've missed?
I'm not very hot with this stuff as it's all new - so any info is gratefully received.
Thanks.
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@thecheffer 3rd party images are not supported. If you got that 8GB for only retropie, then you wasted your money. The 2GB version is overkill and works perfectly fine.
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Thanks. I appreciate 3rd party images are not supported - for obvious reasons.
However, the concept is still the same.
For argument sake, lets say I have an r3 working nicely with my setup of RetroPie - the r3 blows up and I’ve now got a p4 8Gb... being that the r4 8Gb isn’t backwardly compatible with older versions of RetroPie*, what options are available to me to update my installation?*this is my assumption
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@thecheffer one possible way is to get a second sdcard, it can be a small one, make a new pi installation (following https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/README.md ) and copy all the .elf and .dat files from the boot partition of the new card to the boot partition of the old card (both should be viewable in windows with an cdcard adapter). Your old sdcard should then boot in the pi4. You may then to do a manual install of retropie ( https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Updating-RetroPie/ ), make sure to select update retropie-Setup script first thing.
edit: You may also be able to get the files from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
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@gomisensei Excellent - we're closer, thanks. RetroPie now boots, however, its looking like the USB ports aren't active. My controller isn't responding, nor keyboard...
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@thecheffer I reckon I’ll start with a fresh 4.6(?) install of RetroPie and see if I have luck porting things from my ‘old’ install. Bit more confident I can hack away at things now.
Thanks
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@thecheffer said in r4 8gb - RetroPie image:
@thecheffer I reckon I’ll start with a fresh 4.6(?) install of RetroPie and see if I have luck porting things from my ‘old’ install.
I would recommend that, too. Better to have a clean slate, and then carefully transfer only the needed parts from the old system. A backup of anything changed or overwritten is also advisable to be able to correct mistakes.
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I'm struggling with this too. I'm going to lean with its still unsupported
Tried half a dozen premade images and not comptible. The official 4.6 image does not work on its own either
Seems only way to get this on is installing Pi-OS/Raspian, then installing Retropie from in there. This kind of works, updates itself to 4.7 and will allow you to see the RP interface we know and love. You can change in to then boot direct to emulation station from the settings. Not sure if Pi-OS still runs in the background, but if you jump into sub-menu settings, you end up on the desktop with the script menu you want on top (ordinarily it would just have a blank background).
Anyway, my next issue is that my roms are on a external ssd. Followed default instructions but nothing showed up. After bit of searching, found this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=245931 which kind of got my ssd to get recognised. Say kind of as 95% of my systems and roms were missing, but seem to have got a couple of systems showing. I would be attempting to ressolve further, but now getting a boot error occur (i'm thinking it did not like me changing it to boot straight to ES) so will prob need to figure out how to reverse or just start a fresh install of raspian/then retropie.
You might get more sucess if your roms are staying on same sd card as os, but so far nothing but a pain for me. I'm coming from the 3b pi, but wish i went for a 4gb model. Might just shelf this for a bit
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@jinsta said in r4 8gb - RetroPie image:
Tried half a dozen premade images and not comptible. The official 4.6 image does not work on its own either
3rd party images are not supported.
Seems only way to get this on is installing Pi-OS/Raspian, then installing Retropie from in there.
I'm not sure why you're using the full pi os image when the lite image is available. The lite image will give you the same experience as the retropie image. https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Manual-Installation/
Anyway, my next issue is that my roms are on a external ssd. Followed default instructions but nothing showed up. After bit of searching, found this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=245931 which kind of got my ssd to get recognised.
I wouldn't follow directions from a post from over a year ago. Things can change. Update your set up to the latest version of the pi os, and it should install permanent firmware updates not available from a year ago. I used the same method to get roms running from usb on my pi4 just like my previous pi's. I used the "manual mount" method from here: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Running-ROMs-from-a-USB-drive/
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Right finally got this working :)
To confirm, 3rd party images at the moe dont seem to be supported, but just wanted to highlight the official ''image'' download of 4.6 (found under pi4, https://retropie.org.uk/download/) also does not work and you will get a boot error occur
You can however get RP 4.6 to work! From official Raspberry Pi page, download the imager app: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
Using the app, there is an option to choose the op system you want to install, so retropie for us and then let it do its thing. It will format disk/write image in one go. Once you put the SDcard in Pi, it will boot, no errors whatsover straight into Retropie!
Note: If you use windows 10, there is chance the imager will fail to write, its a windows setting thats the issue and this is the fix: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=267364&sid=f6d32a82c84ebcfacdc2b3f1536cc4c1&start=25#p1664662
With Pi up and running! just needed to load roms which are on my external ssd. (indeed, the following is correct proc: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Running-ROMs-from-a-USB-drive/). The SSD was again working painfully slow and needed the fix mentioned (https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=245931) to sort that out.
Finally got RP working! in for a long scrape now for artwork before i can get onto some tweaking :)
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