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Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games

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    DTEAM
    last edited by DTEAM 16 Oct 2020, 12:03

    Hi, What is the best way to set Lr-mame 20xy to play handheld games like games from Tiger Electronics LCD handheld. I read post and recommendations but I don't know if It's doable? If yes, which Mame version and what is the good way to set .ini file or do something else?

    In this post, to set MAME with an accessible .cpp file they use a .ini file called driver.ini where they point the good .cpp file with the good game. Can we use those lines in the only mame.ini file I found in the etc/ folder?

    Exemple of what we see in driver.ini:

    [hh_pic16.cpp]
    flash
    hccbaskb
    leboom
    maniac
    matchme
    melodym
    pabball
    rockpin
    tbaskb
    touchme
    ttfball
    ttfballa
    us2pfball
    uspbball
    [hh_sm510.cpp]
    bassmate
    exospace
    gnw_ball
    gnw_bfight
    gnw_bfightn
    gnw_bjack
    gnw_boxing
    gnw_bsweep
    gnw_cgrab
    gnw_chef
    gnw_climber
    ''etc...''
    

    I read we can create a mame.ini in /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mame20xy . Is It a good way to do that?

    Thanks
    Regards

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      mitu Global Moderator @DTEAM
      last edited by mitu 16 Oct 2020, 12:59

      @DTEAM said in Lr-mame 20xx and handheld games:

      In this post, to set MAME with an accessible .cpp file they use a .ini file called driver.ini where they point the good .cpp file with the good game.

      That's for displaying in the MAME - native - interface, not sure what has to the playability of the game.

      Can we use those lines in the only mame.ini file I found in the etc/ folder?

      No.

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        DTEAM
        last edited by DTEAM 16 Oct 2020, 13:03

        Would there be another way to play these handheld games with Lr-mame 20xy in Retropie?

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          mitu Global Moderator
          last edited by mitu 16 Oct 2020, 13:11

          You don't want lr-mame20XY, but lr-mess20XY or mame. The lr-mame20XY cores only handle arcade games.

          For lr-mess cores, see https://retropie.org.uk/docs/MESS/. If you want to use mame, then you can create a separate system and use mame <driver> %ROM% as the running command.

          The list of 'drivers' for each type of game is listed in the Reddit post you mentioned (e.g. for Tiger Electronics, the driver is named hhtiger, etc.)

          EDIT: mame's full path is /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame.

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            DTEAM
            last edited by DTEAM 16 Oct 2020, 18:33

            It works with regular MAME without specific setup !! It works only in the Arcade folder for now. I have set a new system, so now I have Tiger Electronics LCD handheld as a new machine. I have to run the game a first time in arcade to be able to run It in my Tiger folder. It's stange. I'll see what happens in the roms path.
            These games files requires external artwork files. I'm gonna try to found It.

            Can we set hotkeys to exit or one key for that.
            Thanks

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              DTEAM @DTEAM
              last edited by DTEAM 16 Oct 2020, 18:55

              @DTEAM said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

              I have to run the game a first time in arcade to be able to run It in my Tiger folder. It's stange. I'll see what happens in the roms path.

              I fixed It
              I added a new rompath in mame.ini called tigerh (my new system) (see first line)

              rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade;/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/tigerh;
              hashpath /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/hash
              samplepath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame/samples;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/samples
              artpath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame/artwork;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/artwork
              etc...
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                mitu Global Moderator
                last edited by mitu 16 Oct 2020, 19:01

                You can probably add just a hhtiger.ini containing differences from the main file (mame.ini):

                rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/tigerh
                artpath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/tigerh/artwork

                EDIT: to exit, you'll have to use the MAME UI and map the UI cancel (?) manually. By default it's the ESC key.

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                  DTEAM @mitu
                  last edited by DTEAM 16 Oct 2020, 19:08

                  @mitu said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

                  EDIT: to exit, you'll have to use the MAME UI and map the UI cancel (?) manually. By default it's the ESC key.

                  Thanks!
                  It's quite fun to use MAME for handheld systems. I didn't think it was an option in the MAME romset. I will go to sleep less dumb tonight

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                    mitu Global Moderator
                    last edited by 16 Oct 2020, 19:10

                    Game & Watch games are also fun, but the artwork rendering is going to be killer on a Pi.

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                      DTEAM @mitu
                      last edited by DTEAM 17 Oct 2020, 22:27

                      @mitu
                      not bad also with Tiger Handheld on Retropie (-;
                      Batman.jpg
                      Thanks for your support. It works perfectly !!!

                      Frameskip must be set at : Auto (set with F8 and F9). Those games didn't have a big number of image per second on there original format, so frameskip = Auto doesn't affect the playability and recreate a good gaming experience.

                      Note : I put the artwork folder in the main roms folder. Easier to manage. Not displayed in games menu and no chmod to do.

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                        DTEAM @DTEAM
                        last edited by DTEAM 18 Oct 2020, 20:13

                        @DTEAM said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

                        Note : I put the artwork folder in the main roms folder. Easier to manage. Not displayed in games menu and no chmod to do.

                        Better than that , I created an artwork folder in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame
                        and linked It to mame.ini. Now, It works for lr-mess and MAME !! Fantastic

                        gamecom.jpg

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                          zerojay @DTEAM
                          last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 20:22

                          @DTEAM How well does game.com run?

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                            DTEAM @zerojay
                            last edited by DTEAM 18 Oct 2020, 20:25

                            @zerojay
                            54.70 FPS almost full speed
                            Good sound
                            Good gameplay
                            Good gaming experience
                            Overall: Very nice

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                              DTEAM
                              last edited by DTEAM 19 Oct 2020, 21:10

                              I have pre-sorted the list of handheld gaming systems in MAME (excepted Tiger Handheld and Game & Watch). I have not tested any system. I have sorted them by distributors for those who want to create new systems on their Pi and I have indicated those who had Artwork. I discarded those that seemed difficult to play on a Pi. Please feel free to comment on your gaming experience, which ones work or not and if I forgot systems.

                              For systems pictures see with a MAME name in the search tool here

                              imageedit_1_6571765178.png

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                                DTEAM @DTEAM
                                last edited by DTEAM 11 Jan 2020, 01:30 20 Oct 2020, 14:28

                                It works well for Konami and Game & Watch too.
                                Blade.jpg
                                bos.jpg
                                DDKONG.jpg
                                bf.jpg

                                Finally, I created 7 systems:

                                • Konami Handheld
                                • Game & Watch (with madrigal and MAME romset (including Elektronika))
                                • Tiger Handheld
                                • Tiger R-Zone
                                • Classic Handheld systems (non-game & watch from madrigal and all other manufacturers in the MAME romset such as Coleco, Entex, etc.)
                                • All in one Handheld and Plug & Play console (MAME functional systems : M505NEO,mc_tv200, njp60in1, sy888b, sy889, DGUN2573, rminitv, unk1682, ii32in1, ii8in, intact89, intg5410, miwi2_7, zone7in1 -------> Note: Some of those need to be set with frameskip = Auto , some systems have imperfect sound and have problems with main screen, but games are ok most of the time. The first five "All in one handheld consoles" have the best performances)
                                • JAKKS Pacific TV Games

                                812BA9XzfBL.AC_SX425.jpg
                                Porta.png
                                61fUOBy20jL.AC_SY450.jpg

                                IMPORTANT (for LCD systems ) : By default, they run at 33 FPS. Frameskip must be set at : Auto (set it with F8 and F9). Those games didn't have a big number of images per second on there original format, so frameskip = Auto doesn't affect the playability and recreate the real gaming experience.

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                                  DTEAM
                                  last edited by DTEAM 11 Feb 2020, 13:30 22 Oct 2020, 23:32

                                  *All in one Handheld and Plug & Play console * like introduced above
                                  Best performance
                                  m505neo
                                  mc_tv200 -------> same as dgun2577
                                  sy888b
                                  sy889
                                  rminitv
                                  dgun2573
                                  unk1682
                                  ablmini
                                  ablpinb
                                  bittboy
                                  cybar120
                                  dnv200fs
                                  fapocket
                                  fcpocket
                                  gprnrs1
                                  gprnrs16
                                  itvg49
                                  lexiseal
                                  lexizeus
                                  lx_jg7415
                                  m521neo
                                  mc_105te -----------------> 2011 Super HiK 105 in 1 Turbo Edition
                                  mc_110cb
                                  mc_138cb ----> 138 in 1 CoolBaby (CoolBoy RS-5, PCB060-10009011V1.3)
                                  mc_7x6ss
                                  mc_89in1
                                  mc_8x6cb
                                  mc_8x6ss
                                  mc_9x6ss
                                  mc_aa2
                                  mc_cb280
                                  mc_dcat8
                                  mc_dg101
                                  mc_dgear
                                  mc_hh210
                                  mc_sam60
                                  mc_sp69
                                  megapad
                                  mgt20in1
                                  mysprtcp
                                  mysptqvc
                                  oplayer ---> sports games 100 in 1, but weird boxing game against a baby!! )-:
                                  pdc100
                                  pdc150t
                                  pdc200
                                  pdc40t
                                  pdc50
                                  tmntpdc ---> Only 1 game but PDC console like the others PDC
                                  pjoyn50
                                  pjoys30
                                  pjoys60
                                  ppgc200g
                                  react
                                  reactmd
                                  sarc110
                                  sudopptv
                                  techni4
                                  vgcaplet
                                  vgpmini
                                  vgpocket
                                  vjpp2 ---------> very nice games
                                  vsplus ------> very nice games
                                  zdog
                                  zudugo ---------> The game Super Fight 1 is a strange clone or counterfeit of Contra

                                  Playable - Some of those need to be set with frameskip = Auto , some systems have imperfect sound and have problems with main screen, but games are ok most of the time.
                                  ii32in1
                                  ii8in
                                  intact89
                                  intg5410
                                  miwi2_7
                                  zone7in1
                                  majkon
                                  timetp36
                                  njp60in1

                                  Tested and Not working - in development
                                  dgun2500
                                  dgun2561
                                  dgun2572
                                  dgun2953
                                  dgun2593
                                  myac220
                                  bkid218
                                  dphh8630
                                  mc_hh210
                                  mog_m320
                                  rfcp168
                                  rhhc152
                                  unkunsp
                                  nprsp
                                  ragc153
                                  rbitgen
                                  rtvgc300
                                  rtvgc300fz
                                  dance555
                                  dbdancem
                                  ddrdismx
                                  ddrstraw
                                  decathln
                                  denv150
                                  dvnimbus
                                  exsprt48
                                  hyprscan
                                  lpgm240
                                  lxccminn
                                  lxccplan
                                  lxcmc250
                                  lxcmcy
                                  lxcmcycr
                                  lxcmcydp
                                  lxcmcyfz
                                  lxcmcypp
                                  lxcmcysp
                                  lxcmcysw
                                  lxts3
                                  lx_aven
                                  lx_jg7425
                                  majgnc.
                                  mc_pg150
                                  miwi2_16
                                  msidd
                                  msifrog
                                  msimm2
                                  msimpac
                                  msisinv
                                  msiwwe
                                  mysprtch
                                  otrail
                                  pjoypj001
                                  polmega
                                  protpp
                                  red5mam
                                  senwld
                                  silv35
                                  solargm
                                  sporzbx
                                  sporzpp
                                  sporztn
                                  timetp7
                                  vdogdeme
                                  vdogdemo
                                  vgtablet
                                  vsmaxx17
                                  vtboxing
                                  vtpinball
                                  vtsndtest
                                  wldsoctv
                                  wowwg
                                  xing48
                                  zon32bit
                                  zone3d
                                  zonefusn

                                  If I forgot some handheld All in 1 consoles from the 0.225 MAME Romset, feel free to share It. For Mame driver and comments, see here . Just with this driver (nes_vt.cpp), they propose 103 All in One mini arcades . Still a lot of testing to do! Some other drivers are vt_unknown.cpp, vt1682.cpp, spg2xx_zone_32bit.cpp and all spg2.... .cpp . The tests are finished. It took me a long time but I think it might interest a few people and it makes another system or category to create in retropie. These roms are smalls and contain some good games.

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                                    DTEAM
                                    last edited by DTEAM 26 Oct 2020, 14:02

                                    I finally created a seventh system with MAME ROMs called JAKKS Pacific TV Games. There are some great games with this system and most ROMs work well.

                                    Tested and working
                                    jak_batm
                                    jak_capc
                                    jak_care
                                    jak_dbz
                                    jak_disf
                                    jak_disn
                                    jak_dora
                                    jak_dorr
                                    jak_dpr
                                    jak_dprs
                                    jak_fan4
                                    jak_just
                                    jak_mk
                                    jak_mpac
                                    jak_mpacw
                                    jak_nick
                                    jak_pooh
                                    jak_sbfc
                                    jak_sdoo
                                    jak_sith
                                    jak_spdm
                                    jak_wall
                                    jak_wof
                                    jak_wwe
                                    pinkjelly (Not Jakks but same type of concept)
                                    fordrace (Not Jakks but same type of concept)

                                    Tested and Not working - in development
                                    jak_car2
                                    jak_bbh
                                    jak_bbsf
                                    jak_camp
                                    jak_capb
                                    jak_dchp
                                    jak_ddhp
                                    jak_duck
                                    jak_gtg
                                    jak_hmg2 (no sound)
                                    jak_hmhsm
                                    jak_hsmg2
                                    jak_pf
                                    jak_prft
                                    jak_prhp
                                    jak_s500
                                    jak_smwm
                                    jak_sspop
                                    jak_swbstrik
                                    jak_swc
                                    jak_ths
                                    jak_tink
                                    jak_tmnthp
                                    jak_totm
                                    jak_tsm
                                    jak_umdf
                                    jak_wdbg
                                    jak_wdzh


                                    JAKKS Pacific TV Games
                                    Jakks Pacific Inc (Video Snaps)(HD)(MAME) 1.0.0

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                                      zerojay @DTEAM
                                      last edited by 27 Oct 2020, 13:55

                                      @DTEAM said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

                                      zudugo ---------> The game Super Fight 1 is a strange clone or counterfeit of Contra

                                      It's also the very first game on ablmini. Pretty interesting clone or hack. Keep up the good work, you're giving me a lot more stuff to add to my RetroPie and I love it.

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                                        DTEAM @zerojay
                                        last edited by DTEAM 11 Jan 2020, 01:28 27 Oct 2020, 14:59

                                        @zerojay said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

                                        Keep up the good work, you're giving me a lot more stuff to add to my RetroPie and I love it.

                                        Thanks for your support. Same with me, I discovered new stuffs to add to my Pi and I like that. MAME romset is like a flea market where you can find unsuspected treasures! Games just need to be tested and organized properly to be presented as a system on Pi. It's a lot of work, but it's worth it.
                                        Note: For "All in one Handheld and Plug & Play consoles " , I added hyperlinks pointed on pictures of the consoles.

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                                          zerojay @DTEAM
                                          last edited by 29 Oct 2020, 03:59

                                          @DTEAM FYI, MAME 0.226 just released with support for more vt nes X in one consoles and more handheld stuff.

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