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    Retropie missing 4 raspberry logo at boot

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    • R
      robmcc83
      last edited by

      I noticed this to, stock 4.6 image has raspberries when you update there gone.

      I also have another pi3 which is used for a smart mirror, since running a update on this the raspberries are also gone on that.

      So it appears just updating raspbian in general now gets rid of the raspberries.

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      • AshpoolA
        Ashpool
        last edited by Ashpool

        Strange,
        I have tried a few installs on the Pi4 and it allways was fresh_image (4.6)->Berries shown, Updated Image (without OS Updates)->Berries still there, Update with OS Packages->No Berries anymore.
        Now I tried it on my Rasbperry 3B (no Plus), which had an Image that I haven't updated since over a year (or two?, haven't checked). There the Berries are still shown after the Update.

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        • BuZzB
          BuZz administrators @Ashpool
          last edited by

          @Ashpool Older versions of Raspbian do not receive firmware / kernel updates.

          To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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          • AshpoolA
            Ashpool @BuZz
            last edited by Ashpool

            @BuZz Ok, as the Update took around 45min-1h, I haven't considered that to be a possibility - thanks for clarification & I will try with a fresh 4.6 on a 3B+ now.

            Edit: Ok, confirmed - it also happens on the Pi3.

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            • IdelacioI
              Idelacio
              last edited by

              Is there a way to restore the raspberries without affecting device performance?

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              • mituM
                mitu Global Moderator @Idelacio
                last edited by

                @idelacio said in Retropie missing 4 raspberry logo at boot:

                Is there a way to restore the raspberries without affecting device performance?

                The boot berries display don't affect the performance. Why do you want to restore them - they don't have any functional impact ?

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                • IdelacioI
                  Idelacio @mitu
                  last edited by

                  @mitu They look nice. :)

                  Seriously. Also it puts something on the screen during boot that isn't just a black screen. That is an instant indication whether the pi is booting. I can always buse the rainbow screen but honestly its obnoxious and when making a pi console looks unprofessional. :-T

                  I'm about to give someone a retro console as a gift and would like something to front end the boot visually as just a black screen for 5 seconds can be disconcerting if you aren't used to it.

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                  • mituM
                    mitu Global Moderator @Idelacio
                    last edited by

                    @idelacio My guess they don't appear because of the (new) bootloader screen, which also features a raspberry:

                    Try to disable this screen (see here) and maybe the boot berries will be shown again.

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                      Idelacio @mitu
                      last edited by Idelacio

                      @mitu Aw nuts, I was hoping that would work on the Pi4s, I suspect that screen is only forced for SSD booting as I don't remember ever getting it while booting from SD Card? Ah whatever, would prefer the clean raspberries but for my own devices I'm not that fussed.

                      Anyway doesn't make a difference.

                      For the Pi3's though this wouldn't apply. I considered overwriting the boot files with older versions but wary as this would probably just fail? :-T

                      That said mucking about with a test build, not all that fussed if I break that. Could I safely roll them back and how far could I go?

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                      • mituM
                        mitu Global Moderator @Idelacio
                        last edited by

                        @idelacio said in Retropie missing 4 raspberry logo at boot:

                        @mitu Aw nuts, I was hoping that would work on the Pi4s, I suspect that screen is only forced for SSD booting as I don't remember ever getting it while booting from SD Card? Ah whatever, would prefer the clean raspberries but for my own devices I'm not that fussed.

                        It's not only for SSD boot, I think the latest EEPROM have added the bootloader diagnostic screen for any type of boot.

                        For the Pi3's though this wouldn't apply. I considered overwriting the boot files with older versions but wary as this would probably just fail? :-
                        That said mucking about with a test build, not all that fussed if I break that. Could I safely roll them back and how far could I go?

                        For the Pi3, the bootloader is still in the firmware files in /boot. Usually the firmware version is paired with a certain kernel release and with the userspace libraries, so downgrading should include more than the firmware files - I think there are about 5 extra packages that are installed in tandem (libraspberrypi-bin, raspberrypi-kernel, raspberrypi-bootloader, libraspberrypi-dev, raspberrypi-kernel-headers). TBH, I don't think it's worth downgrading just for the lack of the boot berries.

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                        • IdelacioI
                          Idelacio @mitu
                          last edited by

                          @mitu Yeah, probably not sadly. You are probably right on the EEPROM, thinking about it I ONLY upgraded to boot from SSD and have never booted from any of the updated Pi4s with an SD.

                          Well least it's another pin in the knowledge base. :D

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                            Cornervizion @mitu
                            last edited by

                            @mitu Thanks for clarification over the new bootloader screen because I didn't half panic when I first saw that a few weeks ago. 👍

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