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    • dankcushionsD
      dankcushions Global Moderator @Nakynaw
      last edited by dankcushions

      @nakynaw i would start a new thread for troubleshooting, but sounds like this issue: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/issues/3118 - if so, use a different emulator

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      • sergioadS
        sergioad
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        How do you think N64 could run over LR + Vulkan?

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        • akatooshA
          akatoosh
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          Apologies if this has already been discussed but...

          I've been trying out the settings roslof put in his spreadsheet for various games, but I've resolved to using GlideN64 in place of the hires variant because none of the games I've tried have run very well. DK64 for instance is stutter city with GlideN64-hires but works perfectly in base Glide. I was just wondering if there were any specific settings you guys were using to make it run properly?

          My pi is overclocked per roslof's recommendations as well. Running the latest versions of everything, that I can see.

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          • roslofR
            roslof @akatoosh
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            @akatoosh are you sure you're using NTSC ROMs? Or PAL?

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            • akatooshA
              akatoosh @roslof
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              @roslof I'm using NTSC roms

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              • roslofR
                roslof @akatoosh
                last edited by roslof

                @akatoosh said in Getting the best N64 experience on a Pi 4:

                @roslof I'm using NTSC roms

                Okay, it (your example of DK64) runs very well for me with hires, so here are my relevant settings:
                https://pastebin.com/eL6dZhHv

                Also note in my compatibility list how to create an entry to handle the follow-cam issue).

                Hope this helps!

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                • akatooshA
                  akatoosh @roslof
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                  @roslof Thanks! Oddly everything seems to match up. Maybe I’ll try a different rom. Did you set the resolution to 640x480 in the runcommand menu?

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                  • roslofR
                    roslof @akatoosh
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                    @akatoosh no, I just leave it at default.
                    Reminds me... Might you be running in 4K? Or did you update config.txt to lock 1080P?

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                    • akatooshA
                      akatoosh
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                      @roslof yeah, I did change it to 1080p, so I guess resolution isn’t the issue.

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                      • akatooshA
                        akatoosh @roslof
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                        @roslof I’m also seeing that while playing Mario Party 3 the tiles and character models are missing in-game. Not sure if this is a me thing or what, but I’m following the emulator recommendation and settings from the spreadsheet. Maybe something to do with the FB setting?

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                        • roslofR
                          roslof @akatoosh
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                          @akatoosh said in Getting the best N64 experience on a Pi 4:

                          @roslof I’m also seeing that while playing Mario Party 3 the tiles and character models are missing in-game. Not sure if this is a me thing or what, but I’m following the emulator recommendation and settings from the spreadsheet. Maybe something to do with the FB setting?

                          No, it's not just you. You're correct about the issue with Next, but it's not due to the FrameBuffer. You could use lr-mupen64plus instead of next. The characters will render and tiles will be correctly placed.. Even with Framebuffer False. Will update the compatibility chart to reflect this. Cheers!

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                          • akatooshA
                            akatoosh @roslof
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                            @roslof Cool. The same issue is happening in Mario Party 2 as well, though in the plus emulator the HUD flickers for me a little bit.

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                            • retropieuser555R
                              retropieuser555
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                              https://github.com/libretro/parallel-n64/issues/646 - came across this issue when looking around recently, it seems for whatever reason using vulkan fixes the red dot/camera issue Pokémon snap we're stuck with. So if nothing else when vulkan is stable enough to be integrated into retropie we might see that game become playable?

                              Pi 5 4GB

                              Retroflag GPI with raspberry pi zero 2 w/ wifi

                              Retroachievements:- lovelessrapture

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                              • roslofR
                                roslof @akatoosh
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                                @akatoosh said in Getting the best N64 experience on a Pi 4:

                                @roslof Cool. The same issue is happening in Mario Party 2 as well, though in the plus emulator the HUD flickers for me a little bit.

                                Helpful. I made this change as well. I didn't notice the HUD flicker. Would you help me understand where/when the HUD is doing this?

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                                • akatooshA
                                  akatoosh @roslof
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                                  @roslof hmm. Strange. I see it during a game once players start moving on the board. As a player rolls and walks on the board the 4 character panels in the corners will flicker.

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                                  • akatooshA
                                    akatoosh @akatoosh
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                                    @akatoosh the flickering doesn’t happen constantly. Occasionally it will start and stop.

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                                    • retropieuser555R
                                      retropieuser555
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                                      Hey has anyone got any issues with ISS 64? I find with the game there's these big ugly shadows underneath the players. (https://github.com/gonetz/GLideN64/issues/103) tried changing the depthcompare to true but it didn't fix it. Any ideas?

                                      Pi 5 4GB

                                      Retroflag GPI with raspberry pi zero 2 w/ wifi

                                      Retroachievements:- lovelessrapture

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                                      • quicksilverQ
                                        quicksilver @retropieuser555
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                                        @retropieuser555 iirc depth compare doesn't work on the raspberry pi. Don't take that as gospel but that is likely the issue.

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                                        • quicksilverQ
                                          quicksilver @George Spiggott
                                          last edited by quicksilver

                                          @george-spiggott A bit of a late response here but I just noticed this as well. I just started messing with my pi again after about 6 months or so. It seems standalone mupen64plus-gliden64 also got a nice performance boost. Several games that were very choppy now run much better. The vigilante games, Fighting Force and SOTE all seem to run much better now. Im still testing but I am sure there are more.

                                          Edit: Can add "destruction derby" to the list of games with improved performance. This another one that was a choppy mess but seems full speed now.

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                                          • dankcushionsD
                                            dankcushions Global Moderator @quicksilver
                                            last edited by

                                            @quicksilver great! maybe it was this? i didn't see any improvements in games but i barely benchmarked it other than what i wrote in the PR

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