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    Input Scrambled After Retropie Update

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    • mituM
      mitu Global Moderator
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      @gabraham said in Input Scrambled After Retropie Update:

      That is the manual. If there are multiple modes, there is no way in the manual to toggle between them

      I see, so it's one of the models that tries to be 'smart' and guess which host is connected to in order to masquerade as either a Xbox 360 controller or a Switch Pro controller.

      Based on the Vendor/Product ID (Vendor=045e Product=028e) detected, the driver used for it is clearly xpad. I wonder if the gamepad detection makes the driver fail to load.

      You can test how your buttons/joystick are detected on the controller by using jstest from the command line and pressing each input separately to see how it appears on screen:

      jstest /dev/input/js0
      

      You can interrupt the test at any time using Ctrl+C. Can you check if your triggers are detected as buttons or axis ?

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        Gabraham @mitu
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        @mitu said in Input Scrambled After Retropie Update:

        Can you check if your triggers are detected as buttons or axis ?

        They are detected as axis. I've seen this happen before but I just have no idea why it's suddenly a problem or how to make the Pi recognize them as buttons. I suppose it's possible it was in Switch mode this whole time and suddenly it's in PC mode or something. The switch controller doesn't have analog triggers so this would seem to make sense. The question of course becomes how do I either make the Pi understand they are really buttons, or I guess figure out how to force the modes.

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          Gabraham @mitu
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          @mitu said in Input Scrambled After Retropie Update:

          I see, so it's one of the models that tries to be 'smart' and guess which host is connected to in order to masquerade as either a Xbox 360 controller or a Switch Pro controller.

          After you mentioned the multiple modes I decided to see if there was an undocumented way to force one mode over the other and there does appear to be. If I hold down the Y button, it will, much like the bluetooth version, be recognized as a Pro Controller on my PC. When I do this on the Pi however, it fails to detect any button presses whatsoever. If I do not press anything when I plug the controller in or press one of the other face buttons while doing so, it reacts exactly as it has been and the triggers are not recognized properly.

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          • mituM
            mitu Global Moderator @Gabraham
            last edited by mitu

            @gabraham said in Input Scrambled After Retropie Update:

            .. it's possible it was in Switch mode this whole time and suddenly it's in PC mode or something.

            That's unlikely, since the name of the gamepad would have been different and (i.e. not Microsoft X-Box 360 pad).

            They are detected as axis.

            This means the xpad driver is either not loaded for the controller or it's not installed properly. The xpad driver included in RetroPie is configured to detect those as buttons - the situation you're describing (triggers appearing as axis) is common when the driver is not installed.

            Can you re-install the driver and then post the installation log file from $HOME/RetroPie-Setup/logs ?

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              Gabraham
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              @mitu https://pastebin.com/M9qA6rMe

              No change. I even confirmed that the xpad.conf file to make sure the triggers to buttons option was set to 1. When I uninstalled it I lost the ability to use my controller too, so I would think it would have to be loaded.

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              • mituM
                mitu Global Moderator
                last edited by mitu

                OK, so the xpad driver is installed correctly, no issue here.
                Try to see if it's loaded/used for the controller. Boot the Pi without the controller plugged in, then run from the terminal

                dmesg -w
                

                and plug in the controller. The driver should load if the controller is properly detected. Post the messages shown by dmesg when plugging in the controller.

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                  Gabraham @mitu
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                  @mitu said in Input Scrambled After Retropie Update:

                  Post the messages shown by dmesg when plugging in the controller.

                  [  132.541524] usb 1-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
                  [  132.681834] usb 1-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=045e, idProduct=028e, bcdDevice= 1.14
                  [  132.681852] usb 1-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
                  [  132.681866] usb 1-1.1: Product: Controller
                  [  132.681879] usb 1-1.1: Manufacturer: Controller
                  [  132.681892] usb 1-1.1: SerialNumber: Controller
                  [  132.758613] input: Microsoft X-Box 360 pad as /devices/platform/scb/fd500000.pcie/pci0000:00/0000:00:00.0/0000:01:00.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/input/input0
                  [  132.758925] usbcore: registered new interface driver xpad
                  
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                  • mituM
                    mitu Global Moderator
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                    Looks like the xpad driver is loaded for the controller - I have no idea why the configuration from xpad.conf (triggers_to_buttons=1) doesn't work.

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                      Gabraham @mitu
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                      @mitu

                      I also tried xpadneo out of desperation but the controller is always recognized as an xpad.

                      The xpad driver doesn't appear to have been updated for a few months and I was pretty sure I had updated the drivers since reflashing this Pi weeks ago. Only since I had updated it recently did this start happening. Unfortunately if there is a way to roll back the driver I don't know how to do it and the Retropie-Setup menu always fetches the latest one from source.

                      I appreciate you helping me to look into it in any case, but it's a damn shame because before this started happening it was almost perfect and just worked like a charm all the time.

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                      • mituM
                        mitu Global Moderator @Gabraham
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                        I also tried xpadneo out of desperation but the controller is always recognized as an xpad.

                        xpadneo is for Bluetooth XBox controllers only, it doesn't work for wired gamepads.

                        The xpad driver doesn't appear to have been updated for a few months and I was pretty sure I had updated the drivers since reflashing this Pi weeks ago

                        Maybe the xpad driver is not at fault here. Although it has received some updates since 4.7.1 was released last year, it shouldn't affect the patch that RetroPie applies to it. Unfortunately I don't have any compatible controllers to test, but we also haven't received any similar complains lately.

                        Just to check that the module options are applied, can you run

                        sudo cat /sys/module/xpad/parameters/triggers_to_buttons
                        

                        and see if the output is Y ?

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                          Gabraham @mitu
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                          @mitu

                          Output is Y.

                          Also, earlier I tried changing that property to 0 but it affected nothing so I changed it back.

                          I actually have an 8bitdo wireless. I believe they are in the same family so the USB version is essentially just a stripped down version of the bluetooth one. Interestingly when I plug the bluetooth controller in with a USB port to use USB mode, I can cycle through the Switch and X-Input modes basically the same way and the Pi reacts just like it does with the usb controller. Switch mode USB is not recognized at all and X-Input just causes it to behave like the usb controller version.

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                            Gabraham
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                            Minor update: I saw on a reddit post that someone solved the issue somehow by resetting the EmulationStation input settings via the Retropie menu. I did so but no change. At this point I'm considering opening a GitHub issue on the Retropie GitHub.

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