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      hhtien1408 @Folly
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      @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

      @dteam

      Ok, that worked in lr-mess.

      Seems we have to do a lot of translation with RetroArch if we want to play.
      I have already add that in 2v2.
      The generated module-script will add it if it's not there.

      Still, I have to work on the naming of the runcommandlines, though.
      I had improved it a bit, but I am not satisfied and I have an issue because if the name in emulators.cfg doesn't begin with lr- the required dev/shm/retroarch.cfg for the libretro-core is not loaded.
      So I have to take a second look at that.

      2021-05-31-214815_800x600_scrot.png

      English translation rom? Where to download? Or you use IPS patch?

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        Folly @hhtien1408
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        @hhtien1408 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

        @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

        @dteam

        Ok, that worked in lr-mess.

        Seems we have to do a lot of translation with RetroArch if we want to play.
        I have already add that in 2v2.
        The generated module-script will add it if it's not there.

        Still, I have to work on the naming of the runcommandlines, though.
        I had improved it a bit, but I am not satisfied and I have an issue because if the name in emulators.cfg doesn't begin with lr- the required dev/shm/retroarch.cfg for the libretro-core is not loaded.
        So I have to take a second look at that.

        2021-05-31-214815_800x600_scrot.png

        English translation rom? Where to download? Or you use IPS patch?

        All info is in this thread, you should use this post :
        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/28461/translate-games-on-the-fly/10
        Add the lines to your /opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch.cfg

        If a libretro-core is used you can press the hotkey "t" and things will be translated on the fly.
        Press again and, if all goes well, you can play further.
        For security, you could make a saving before translating if that's possible.

        Edit :
        Read from here to use the joystick to translate the picture :
        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/28461/translate-games-on-the-fly/25

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          Folly @hhtien1408
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          @hhtien1408 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

          @dteam Fucking awesome. Thanks for your sharing images and video scraped for gamelist!
          Which theme can I apply for? Carbon?
          Could you send me system theme and loading screen for Datach? If possible, the whole theme you are using? I am very impressed by your theme!

          You can manually download those here :
          https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1f_jXMG0XMBdyOOBpz8CHM6AFj9vC1R6m
          You can place them in :
          ~/RetroPie/roms/nes_datach/gamelist.xml
          ~/RetroPie/roms/nes_datach/media.................etc

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            DTEAM @hhtien1408
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            @hhtien1408 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

            Which theme can I apply for? Carbon?

            You can use my cygnus_modified theme and copy & paste my es_systems.cfg in your /opt/retropie/configs/all/emulationstation folder

            see:

            https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bfuYF7Ij_dhNc9b8bVCS6I22XiEmP7rv

            For Carbon, you must add a logo by your own

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              hhtien1408 @DTEAM
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              @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

              https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bfuYF7Ij_dhNc9b8bVCS6I22XiEmP7rv

              Thanks a lot!

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                DTEAM @Folly
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                @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                Will reveal that you can use the -nes_slot option. ( I don't know what parameter to add, though )

                Is It the same thing for MSX?

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                  Folly @DTEAM
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                  @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                  @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                  Will reveal that you can use the -nes_slot option. ( I don't know what parameter to add, though )

                  Is It the same thing for MSX?

                  It seems to work.
                  For moonsound I added the yrw801.rom from openmsx to msx_moonsound.zip so it loaded the second time.
                  Option -centronics seems to work also.

                  I hope you see the picture here. ;-)

                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listslots hbf700p
                  SYSTEM           SLOT NAME        SLOT OPTIONS     SLOT DEVICE NAME
                  ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------------------
                  hbf700p          centronics       ap2000           Epson ActionPrinter 2000
                                                    chessmec         The ChessMachine EC
                                                    covox            Covox Speech Thing
                                                    covox_stereo     Covox (Stereo-in-1)
                                                    ex800            Epson EX-800
                                                    lx800            Epson LX-800
                                                    lx810l           Espon LX-810L
                                                    p72              NEC PinWriter P72
                                                    pl80             COMX PL-80
                                                    printer          Centronics Printer
                                                    samdac           SAMDAC
                  
                                   cartslot1        bm_012           MSX Cartridge - BM-012
                                                    moonsound        MSX Cartridge - MoonSound
                  
                                   cartslot2        bm_012           MSX Cartridge - BM-012
                                                    moonsound        MSX Cartridge - MoonSound
                  
                                   fdc:0            35dd             3.5" double density floppy drive
                                                    35ssdd           3.5" single-sided double density floppy drive
                  
                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame hbf700p -cartslot1 moonsound
                  yrw801.rom NOT FOUND (tried in msx_moonsound hbf700p)
                  Fatal error: Required files are missing, the machine cannot be run.
                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame hbf700p -cartslot1 moonsound #ok after adding the rom !
                  Average speed: 94.10% (59 seconds)
                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame hbf700p -cartslot1 bm_012   
                  midi_v1.00.u4 NOT FOUND (tried in msx_cart_bm_012 hbf700p)
                  Fatal error: Required files are missing, the machine cannot be run.
                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame hbf700p -centronics chessmec
                  74s288.1 NOT FOUND (tried in chessmachine hbf700p)
                  74s288.2 NOT FOUND (tried in chessmachine hbf700p)
                  74s288.3 NOT FOUND (tried in chessmachine hbf700p)
                  74s288.4 NOT FOUND (tried in chessmachine hbf700p)
                  Fatal error: Required files are missing, the machine cannot be run.
                  

                  I tried to load moonsound also with the option -cartridge1because I wanted to know if the options are the same thing :

                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame hbf700p -cart1 moonsound
                  .
                  .
                  Fatal error: Device MSX Cartridge slot load (-cartridge1 moonsound) failed: File not found
                  

                  So option -cartridge1/-cart1 isn't the same as -cartslot1 !

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                    Folly
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                    @DTEAM

                    Picture from the File Manager section :
                    2021-06-03-084816_1600x900_scrot-resized.png

                    Picture from the Slot Devices section :
                    2021-06-03-084759_1600x900_scrot-resized.png

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                      hhtien1408 @Folly
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                      Super Acan Magazine
                      https://archive.org/details/acan-special-issue/page/84/mode/2up

                      NeoGeo CD Magazine
                      https://archive.org/details/013-neo-geo-cd

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                        JimmyFromTheBay
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                        Chaps, absolutely massive kudos on all this. I'm beyond thrilled to be able to play stuff like CD-i (Hotel Mario at last!) and Super Cassette Vision on my Pi, not to mention all the systems I was running in AdvMESS on my Pi3 which now don't work on the Pi4 but have been rescued by all these wonderful lr-mess forks.

                        (I'm currently working myself up to the daunting-looking task of setting up konamih and tigerh handhelds. The tutorial is tangling my brain.)

                        A quick couple of pleas for stuff that's currently got me stumped:

                        (1) Any chance of adding a coco3 fork? As far as I can tell nothing emulates it on the 4, and it's got a few cool games - it was the original home of Donkey Kong Remix.

                        (2) I can't for the life of me figure out what BIOS files lr-mess-archimedes wants. The current MAME ROMset has nothing called "archimedes.zip" in it and I've got various things with "risc" in their names in my BIOS folder but I still get the dreaded Box With Blurry Word In The Middle Crash. Any clues?

                        (3) Quite a few systems (most notably coco and dragon32, for me) are currently sort-of functional, which is to say that everything appears to work and games load, but then don't run properly. (eg The King/Donkey King, which keeps looping back to the menus when you try to choose the difficulty.)

                        I imagine this is a problem with lr-mess itself rather than the system-specific forks, but if lr-mess gets updated to fix it will we have to install all the individual systems again?

                        Raspberry Pi 3b and 8GB Raspberry Pi 4, both running Retropie 4.7.1 installed from scratch using Raspberry Pi Imager, with wired keyboard, wireless mouse and double arcade joystick attached.

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                          DTEAM @JimmyFromTheBay
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                          @jimmyfromthebay said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                          (1) Any chance of adding a coco3 fork? As far as I can tell nothing emulates it on the 4, and it's got a few cool games - it was the original home of Donkey Kong Remix.
                          (2) I can't for the life of me figure out what BIOS files lr-mess-archimedes wants. The current MAME ROMset has nothing called "archimedes.zip" in it and I've got various things with "risc" in their names in my BIOS folder but I still get the dreaded Box With Blurry Word In The Middle Crash. Any clues?
                          (3) Quite a few systems (most notably coco and dragon32, for me) are currently sort-of functional, which is to say that everything appears to work and games load, but then don't run properly. (eg The King/Donkey King, which keeps looping back to the menus when you try to choose the difficulty.)
                          I imagine this is a problem with lr-mess itself rather than the system-specific forks, but if lr-mess gets updated to fix it will we have to install all the individual systems again?

                          For (1) follow the instructions "How to install" (link below) and if you have any problems let us know.
                          https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/tree/main/00-scripts-00

                          bash generate-desired-systems.sh only (and write the systems you want)

                          or try this
                          https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29682/development-of-module-script-generator-for-lr-mess-and-mame-standalone/288

                          (2) For achimedes , some need BIOSes and some not. The only BIOSes you need are aa310, aa4000 and aa5000 (I think, but I'm not 100% sure)

                          (3) Maybe @Folly could help you on that one. You can also try with MAME standalone.

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                            Folly @JimmyFromTheBay
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                            @jimmyfromthebay

                            Note about the locations where to put the bios files in the first place :

                            • BIOS files for the Valerino module-scripts have to be in :
                              /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS
                            • BIOS files for the generated FollyMaddy module-scripts have to be in :
                              /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

                            Note about https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/tree/main/00-scripts-00 :
                            I just updated important things of the readme.md of the above link, as it was a bit outdated.

                            (2)
                            I checked for you the bios part for Archimedes.
                            You can get all information out of "mame standalone".
                            This way we know what types can be generated by the script.

                            /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listdevices |grep Driver|grep Archimedes
                            Driver a7000 (Archimedes A7000):
                            Driver a7000p (Archimedes A7000+):
                            Driver aa305 (Archimedes 305):
                            Driver aa310 (Archimedes 310):
                            Driver aa4101 (Archimedes 410/1):
                            Driver aa4201 (Archimedes 420/1):
                            Driver aa440 (Archimedes 440):
                            Driver aa4401 (Archimedes 440/1):
                            Driver aa540 (Archimedes 540):
                            

                            You said you had installed the Valerino module-script "lr-mess-archimedes".
                            This will install 'aa305' and 'aa310'.
                            If you want to check what bios files have to be inside the .zip package you simply do :
                            ( that way you can check your .zip files )

                            /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listroms aa310
                            

                            From the 'mame-0.231-merged' package there are indeed 3 bios files for Archimedes aa310, aa4000 and aa5000, as @DTEAM said. I think you should use those 3.

                            If anything fails after a run, check the /dev/shm/runcommand.log if there is still a missing bios file.
                            If something is missing you will see something like 'TRIED IN aa310"

                            (3)
                            Perhaps I will try for myself.
                            But indeed, lr-mess will sometimes quit for no obvious reason.
                            I had somewhat that same problem with supracan.
                            No idea why this actually happens.
                            It could be, that it has something to do with how we load lr-mess, and the rom, with the run_mess.sh script.
                            Mame standalone doesn't seem to have that problem.
                            So as @DTEAM said, you should try 'mame standalone' also.
                            To use 'mame standalone' this way, you have to generate and install a module-script that is generated by our script generator.
                            That way you get also mame lines to pick from when you load a rom.

                            Edit :
                            I played a bit with them, seems there are some issues indeed.
                            Not only in lr-mess but also in mame standalone.
                            Looking in the hash tables, they say, most games should work.
                            Not sure what is causing this.
                            Btw. I have more luck with dragon32.

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                              JimmyFromTheBay @Folly
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                              From the 'mame-0.231-merged' package there are indeed 3 bios files for Archimedes aa310, aa4000 and aa5000, as @DTEAM said. I think you should use those 3.

                              Yep, those seem to make it boot up. Many thanks to you both :)

                              Btw. I have more luck with dragon32.

                              Fingers crossed :)

                              Raspberry Pi 3b and 8GB Raspberry Pi 4, both running Retropie 4.7.1 installed from scratch using Raspberry Pi Imager, with wired keyboard, wireless mouse and double arcade joystick attached.

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                                JimmyFromTheBay @DTEAM
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                                @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                For (1) follow the instructions "How to install" (link below) and if you have any problems let us know.
                                https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/tree/main/00-scripts-00

                                bash generate-desired-systems.sh only

                                I'm afraid that single sentence alone is beyond my grasp of Linux and gives me the absolute heebies :( I'd already looked at that thread but simply couldn't make any sense of it.

                                Raspberry Pi 3b and 8GB Raspberry Pi 4, both running Retropie 4.7.1 installed from scratch using Raspberry Pi Imager, with wired keyboard, wireless mouse and double arcade joystick attached.

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                                  Folly @JimmyFromTheBay
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                                  @jimmyfromthebay said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                  @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                  For (1) follow the instructions "How to install" (link below) and if you have any problems let us know.
                                  https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/tree/main/00-scripts-00

                                  bash generate-desired-systems.sh only

                                  I'm afraid that single sentence alone is beyond my grasp of Linux and gives me the absolute heebies :( I'd already looked at that thread but simply couldn't make any sense of it.

                                  Are you able to paste a file into your /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/supplementary ?
                                  Then you can use the front-end script.

                                  Just do these few steps :

                                  • Download this file and extract it :
                                    https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

                                  • Copy 00-workdir-00/add-mamedev-systems-test6.sh to
                                    /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/supplementary/add-mamedev-systems-test6.sh

                                  • Run RetroPie-Setup and go to :

                                    • Configuration / tools
                                    • add-mamedev-systems

                                  Now you can install the handhelds, other systems and download artwork and create overlays for running handhelds with lr-mess

                                  2021-06-09-080708_1600x900_scrot.png

                                  Is this within your grasp ?

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                                    JimmyFromTheBay @Folly
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                                    @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                    Just do these few steps :

                                    Download this file and extract it :
                                    https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

                                    Copy 00-workdir-00/add-mamedev-systems-test6.sh to
                                    /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/supplementary/add-mamedev-systems-test6.sh

                                    Run RetroPie-Setup and go to :

                                    Configuration / tools
                                    add-mamedev-systems

                                    Now you can install the handhelds, other systems and download artwork and create overlays for running handhelds with lr-mess

                                    This is EXACTLY the sort of simple instruction set for dim-witted Linuphobes that I need. Thank you :)

                                    Raspberry Pi 3b and 8GB Raspberry Pi 4, both running Retropie 4.7.1 installed from scratch using Raspberry Pi Imager, with wired keyboard, wireless mouse and double arcade joystick attached.

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                                      DTEAM
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                                      @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                      Then you can use the front-end script.
                                      Just do these few steps :

                                      Download this file and extract it :
                                      https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

                                      Copy 00-workdir-00/add-mamedev-systems-test6.sh to
                                      /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/supplementary/add-mamedev-systems-test6.sh

                                      Run RetroPie-Setup and go to :

                                      Configuration / tools
                                      add-mamedev-systems

                                      Now you can install the handhelds, other systems and download artwork and create overlays for running handhelds with lr-mess

                                      Hi @Folly, maybe you could add that post as an instruction in your first post and on GitHub.

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                                        Folly @DTEAM
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                                        @dteam

                                        Yes I can do that.
                                        Will look at it where I can put it in.

                                        I also want somewhat the same description in the github readme.
                                        I have to read that a few times and I will try to improve that also.

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                                          Folly @JimmyFromTheBay
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                                          @jimmyfromthebay

                                          This is EXACTLY the sort of simple instruction set for dim-witted Linuphobes that I need. Thank you :)

                                          Haha, great to hear !

                                          Btw :
                                          Besides me and @DTEAM,
                                          I think you will be the first one that will try the front end.

                                          Please let us know how it goes ,so we can learn from your experience.

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                                            DTEAM @Folly
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                                            @folly
                                            Honestly, if you are able to separate the arcade games from the rest, I think it could be on the official version of Retropie or at least tested by others to be added to it.

                                            I retested It this morning (add-mamedev-systems-test6.sh), and It's awsome!

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