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    AlphaBetaPie @Zering
    last edited by 24 Mar 2021, 02:16

    @zering said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

    @alphabetapie Why do you need RetroArch for theme reasons?

    Overlays and custom resolutions, among other things.

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      AlphaBetaPie @G30FF
      last edited by 24 Mar 2021, 02:19

      @g30ff said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

      @alphabetapie The developer (barbudreadmon) never implemented disc control in lr-yabause or lr-yabasanshiro. But apparently it's not needed, as you can just quit the game and then start it directly from the next disc while loading up the existing save.

      https://forums.libretro.com/t/yaba-sanshiro-disc-swap-question/26239

      Thanks for the heads up. I think Saturn is one of the only systems I know you can load the second disc on the fly. The rest seem more anal about that (and having you start with disc 1).

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        mechafatnick
        last edited by 28 Mar 2021, 08:12

        Hello folks! According to the discord Yaba now officially supports Vulkan on Win/Android. Presumably it won't be in the Retroarena version yet?

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          Soxbrother
          last edited by Soxbrother 4 Oct 2021, 23:05 10 Apr 2021, 14:06

          Hi,

          I've installed the standalone version of yaba sanshiro with the instructions given here.
          (on my Pi4b - 8gb)

          Only thing not working is the controls.
          I've set the controls for player 1 numerous times, but nothing seems to work.
          I'm using an adafruit cupcade.

          I've tried analogue and keyboard, also tried with keyboard disabled.
          Maybe it's not saving the input values or something ?

          Can anyone help ?
          Thanks in advance.

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            barbudreadmon @Soxbrother
            last edited by 10 Apr 2021, 14:31

            @soxbrother said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

            The emulator works, but doesn't seem to support rar files

            i've never heard of an emulator that supports rar files ?

            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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              Soxbrother @barbudreadmon
              last edited by Soxbrother 4 Oct 2021, 16:59 10 Apr 2021, 15:56

              @barbudreadmon I guess I thought, some emulators support .zip files,
              so supporting .rar files isn't a big leap.

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                barbudreadmon @Soxbrother
                last edited by barbudreadmon 4 Oct 2021, 17:04 10 Apr 2021, 16:04

                @soxbrother said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                so supporting .rar files isn't a big leap.

                it is though, rar is a proprietary format, unlike zip/7z which are "generic"

                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                  Soxbrother
                  last edited by 11 Apr 2021, 09:35

                  I also tried to manually edit the "keymapv2.json" file, but the joystick and buttons still aren't working

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                    saitoh00
                    last edited by saitoh00 24 Apr 2021, 09:03

                    A few days ago I tried the yabasanshiro emulator in batocera with the 64-bit version, and the result was spectacular, however, I wonder if it could have a similar performance within this emulator in retropie, using the standalone or the retroarch version, since it seems that in batocera I used the retroarch cut and maybe the standalone is better. I wish you could put under experimental cores, as it is by far the best sega saturn emulator I have tried on raspberry.

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                      phialek @saitoh00
                      last edited by 5 Aug 2021, 00:28

                      @saitoh00

                      I use yabasanshiro in retropie and it works very very well. Daytona runs fullspeed with x2 resolution. Sega rally runs fullspeed as well. Actually every game I've tried runs in full speed.

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                        sergioad
                        last edited by 8 Aug 2021, 02:03

                        I am playing SF Alpha 2 gold by using an overclocked pi 4 at 2050 and it works quite nicely despite some sporadic slowdowns without frameskip at 32 threads, I am loving it and I am thinking on deleting the vanilla PS1 version I have do you know about any other good Saturn 2D games I could play in my pi?

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                          barbudreadmon @sergioad
                          last edited by barbudreadmon 8 Aug 2021, 08:09 8 Aug 2021, 07:07

                          @sergioad said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                          I am playing SF Alpha 2 gold by using an overclocked pi 4 at 2050 and it works quite nicely despite some sporadic slowdowns without frameskip at 32 threads, I am loving it and I am thinking on deleting the vanilla PS1 version I have do you know about any other good Saturn 2D games I could play in my pi?

                          You seem to be using original yabause, are you sure 16 threads isn't a bit better ? I think the core has a tendency to counter-perform when you set its thread value too high. Otherwise, yes, the original yabause core might be sometimes a solid choice for non-hires non-3d saturn games on low-end devices.

                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                            sergioad @barbudreadmon
                            last edited by sergioad 8 Sept 2021, 13:33 9 Aug 2021, 12:31

                            @barbudreadmon hmmm... You are right, I might revisit Saturn soon as I deleted my Saturn game, BTW I was wondering... if the enshiro branch works better both standalone and in libretro core form why the core is not yet present in the setup script? Is there any reason I am unaware?

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                              barbudreadmon @sergioad
                              last edited by barbudreadmon 8 Sept 2021, 13:41 9 Aug 2021, 12:40

                              @sergioad said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                              Is there any reason I am unaware?

                              I don't know why the standalone version isn't in the setup script, as for the libretro version, as i said many times, you should never use it, it's crap, and it's abandoned.

                              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                dankcushions Global Moderator @barbudreadmon
                                last edited by 9 Aug 2021, 14:02

                                last time i checked the standalone yabasanshiro no-gui install method was some custom built thing for retroarena that we could probably leverage, but it's ugly. to be honest the whole source code for yabasanshiro seems like a a bit of a mess and i lost interest :P if anyone else wants to try and put together an install script for it, go for it!

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                                  phialek @dankcushions
                                  last edited by 9 Aug 2021, 14:11

                                  @dankcushions

                                  Yabasanshiro on retropie with my p4 runs fantastic. Every saturn game I've tried runed in full speed even with x2 resolution.

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                                    sergioad @phialek
                                    last edited by 9 Aug 2021, 14:44

                                    @phialek the major problem with the standalone Yabause is that it is a Qt X11 app unlike others that are SDL, I prefer the libretro cores because those are almost plug and play, but for Dreamcast and DS I use the standalone emulators

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                                      sergioad
                                      last edited by sergioad 8 Sept 2021, 15:45 9 Aug 2021, 14:45

                                      What 2D games have you tried in the pi 4 running well? (I ask to everyone)

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                                        dankcushions Global Moderator @phialek
                                        last edited by dankcushions 8 Sept 2021, 15:56 9 Aug 2021, 14:56

                                        @phialek said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                                        @dankcushions

                                        Yabasanshiro on retropie with my p4 runs fantastic. Every saturn game I've tried runed in full speed even with x2 resolution.

                                        lr-yabasanshiro? i am not aware of a standalone yabasanshiro install script for retropie. please link me if you have one!

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                                          retropieuser555 @dankcushions
                                          last edited by retropieuser555 8 Sept 2021, 16:16 9 Aug 2021, 15:15

                                          @dankcushions if I can echo this if there is some good setup instructions for the standalone I'd like to give it a shot. I've had a skim through this thread a few times and I kinda get lost in the discussion over what is and isn't working

                                          @sergioad I can't remember which lr core I was using (probably the one people are suggesting don't use ha!) But for me, most the 2d Saturn games I tried worked, Cotton, Bomberman etc. It's the 3d games that seemed more difficult to play

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