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C64 games don´t work

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    monstermadeofman
    last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 15:11

    Well man I would personally use the Wiki as go to. Considering that it clearly doesn't like opening them and the wiki says it doesn't. I'm sure one of the admin can shed some light as to why it's still in the code, even though the wiki specifies otherwise.

    I've never tried to run anything from the .zip files personally as sometimes it can slow loading times.

    To be fair looking through the forum briefly scanning for C64 related posts it seems that its a myriad of troubles anyway. Could be because VICE wasn't really designed for Linux based systems originally.

    Not all those who wander are lost

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      monstermadeofman @monstermadeofman
      last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 15:16

      @monstermadeofman

      Also while looking briefly at the Emulationstation wiki I came across this:

      "Are your ROMs in a compressed format? Emulation Station does not search inside zip files, though some emulators (like MAME) will expect a zip file."

      I would appear that it might just be an Emulation Station issue, something might be conflicting?

      Not all those who wander are lost

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        camurso
        last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 15:27

        ES has a config file (I can´t remember it´s name , I know I already edited it before to prevent PSX roms to appear in double) where we can define which file extensions are "valid". That way, no zip file will appear on "valid"available games list.

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          vbs
          last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 15:39

          ZIP seems just not supported by Vice. Removing ZIP from the code I quoted above will make ZIP disappear from the config file that @camurso mentioned. So ZIPs won't show up anymore in ES.

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            camurso
            last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 15:51

            @monstermadeofman quoted from the wiki the configuration from the file I mentioned: ex_systems.cfg

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              edmaul69 @camurso
              last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 15:54

              @camurso its es_systems.cfg. You can run zip files from systems that support it. For me everything now is not a zip except for my mame and fba but i used to have others zipped as well. I have never tried to use zipped roms on vice so i say unzip them then try.

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                camurso
                last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 15:59

                Like I said, later, when I get home, I will try that ;)
                BTW: Some emulators other than mame accept zip files (megadrive, nes, snes, etc), since I can play roms without any problem...

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                  mediamogul Global Moderator @camurso
                  last edited by mediamogul 19 Sept 2016, 17:04

                  @camurso said in C64 games don´t work:

                  BTW: Some emulators other than mame accept zip files

                  Very true. I keep everything zipped that is at all possible for space reasons, but I've never had any luck running zipped C64 titles. Everything I've read tends to imply that this is only a feature found in WinVICE and even there it seems to require the external application 'unzip.exe' being placed in the application's root directory and working in tandem at launch.

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                    camurso
                    last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 19:42

                    Ok, I unzipped all my files and got .crt files.
                    I choose to play one of them and now I get a blue/purple screen and nothing more...

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                      camurso
                      last edited by 19 Sept 2016, 19:48

                      Tryed a different game (robocop) and got the same purplish blue screen and a black square top front....

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                        mediamogul Global Moderator @camurso
                        last edited by mediamogul 19 Sept 2016, 19:50

                        @camurso said in C64 games don´t work:

                        I choose to play one of them and now I get a blue/purple screen and nothing more...

                        It could be that it's working fine now, it just takes quite a while for the games to load. There's a built-in turbo mode that can be triggered to quickly get you past this. VICE can even be set to launch with turbo enabled and many times it will disable itself when the game fully loads.

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                          ambaratur @mediamogul
                          last edited by ambaratur 19 Sept 2016, 21:07

                          @mediamogul I have the same problem with .crt files. ES seems to direct VICE to try to load them like disk images. If I enter the control system and load them directly with the emulator they start right up. .crt files are cartridges that have no real load time in the emulator when it works correctly.

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                            mediamogul Global Moderator @ambaratur
                            last edited by mediamogul 19 Sept 2016, 22:46

                            @ambaratur

                            There may be more to it than this, but it seems like this could be remedied by adding an entry to specifically handle these files into /opt/retropie/configs/c64/emulators.cfg. Something like:

                            vice-x64-cart = "/opt/retropie/emulators/vice/bin/x64 -cartcrt %ROM%"
                            

                            and then changing default emulator for the rom files to "vice-x64-cart" when you launch them the for the first time. Of course, even if that worked it would be constantly overwritten each time there was an update.

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                              mediamogul Global Moderator @mediamogul
                              last edited by mediamogul 19 Sept 2016, 23:08

                              @mediamogul

                              Something else that might be worth trying is adding "-cartcrt" with a space afterward to the beginning filename of the rom. If it worked, it wouldn't be overwritten in an update and you could change the appearance of the name back to something pretty using Emulation Station's metadata.

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                                mediamogul Global Moderator
                                last edited by 20 Sept 2016, 04:59

                                I just tried loading a few .crt files and I didn't have any trouble using the stock RetroPie setup. I also tried the two suggestions that I made above and the files also launched each time, so they are at least functional options to try. Other than that, I would try obtaining the cart files from another source and see if that helps.

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                                  edmaul69 @mediamogul
                                  last edited by 20 Sept 2016, 05:28

                                  @mediamogul i am unable to play the crt games directly either. Plays when loaded from inside the emulator. If i pick the game in es it displays the game name half garbled in c64 boot screen and it says ready but stays indefinitely on a blinking cursor underneath ready inside of c64.

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                                    edmaul69 @ambaratur
                                    last edited by edmaul69 20 Sept 2016, 05:36

                                    @ambaratur @camurso @mediamogul ok so i found out the issue with crt games. Go into retropie menu, choose retropie setup. Then in there update retropie-setup. Then when that finishes go into manage packages, optional packages and choose vice and install from binary. Dont uninstall first. No need to lose your settings. The latest version of vice loads .crt files great and instant. It also fixes issues that were created while using scanlines. Disks load pretty fast now too.

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                                      mediamogul Global Moderator @edmaul69
                                      last edited by 20 Sept 2016, 05:47

                                      @edmaul69 said in C64 games don´t work:

                                      The latest version of vice loads .crt files great and instant.

                                      Ah, OK. I already have the latest version, so I guess that's why I wasn't having any issues.

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                                        camurso
                                        last edited by 20 Sept 2016, 08:40

                                        @edmaul69 : I'm not 100% sure, but I think I made an update some days ago, but I will do that later when I get back from work. It's 09:38AM, so my day is just beginning :)

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                                          camurso
                                          last edited by 20 Sept 2016, 20:09

                                          How about that!
                                          It seems somebody was reading this because it only took my thread here in order to fix the problem!!!!

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