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    Libation @Folly
    last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 13:43

    @folly I agree with Crush, I'd like to see a separate thread as well for the same reasons.

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      Folly
      last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 16:59

      @Crush @Libation

      Thanks for your "votes".

      More people out there ?

      I will give it a second thought.

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        rott42 @Folly
        last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 22:16

        @folly Knowing what you can do, I vote "YES" :).

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          4RetroPieTFT
          last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:51 23 Aug 2021, 00:34

          Tutorial for RetroPie:
          Go out from Emulationstation with WiFi or Ethernet connection to Internet, press START -> QUIT, QUIT EMULATIONSTATION.

          Now download script inside emulators folder, typing:

          cd /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/emulators/
          

          Now get the script type:

          wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/bcc1bfb9ef00ded0b060f70df06d10c6660f07f1/00-scriptmodules-00/emulators/supermodel-mechafatnick.sh
          

          Go back to Emulationstation or directly open retropie_setup.sh :

          sudo /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/./retropie_setup.sh
          

          Once RetroPie Setup open, go to Manage experimental packages and search for option 53 Supermodel-mechafatnick, press Enter and then choose Install from source, acept with Yes by pressing Enter and wait for the magic of @mechafatnick and @Folly .
          If it fail because Internet down, just retry!

          Once installed, choose <back> by pressing Enter , repeat untill go back to <Exit> and exit.

          Supermodel was succesfully installed

          We need a theme for SuperModel:

          I share mine, if you dont want, you need to create one yourself. So the next step is totally optional:

          cd
          
          git clone https://github.com/Luciano2018/SuperModel3_Pi_Buenos_Aires.git
          
          cd SuperModel3_Pi_Buenos_Aires
          
          sudo mv /home/pi/SuperModel3_Pi_Buenos_Aires/model3 /etc/emulationstation/themes/carbon/supermodel
          

          Where i put roms(*.zip extension)?:

          /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/supermodel
          

          I don't want your theme, tell me the steps man!:

          First you need a nice logo.svg or logo.png
          Here,in this thread are a very cool logos so search or google someone.

          Now we need create the model3 theme, from another one that came with RetroPie by default:

          sudo cp -rf /etc/emulationstation/themes/carbon/arcade /etc/emulationstation/themes/carbon/model3
          

          Put your logo named system.svg in /home/pi/ folder then move it to the correct folder:

          sudo mv /home/pi/system.svg /etc/emulationstation/themes/carbon/model3/art/
          

          Nice theme finished!!!

          But if you get a logo .png you need extra steps to show correctly, rename to system.png put in /home/pi/ folder and move it to the right place:

          sudo mv /home/pi/system.png /etc/emulationstation/themes/carbon/model3/art/
          

          Because the *.png extension you need to edit the file *themes.xml:

          sudo nano /etc/emulationstation/themes/carbon/model3/theme.xml
          

          Here change all the system.svg to system.png so *EmulationStation will see your choice logo, the file will turn to this:

          <theme>
          
          <formatVersion>3</formatVersion>
          
          <include>./../carbon.xml</include>
          
          <view name="system">
          
          <image name="ControllerOverlay" extra="true">
          
          <tile>false</tile>
          
          <pos>0.5 0.2</pos>
          
          <origin>0.5 0.5</origin>
          
          <size>0.3 0</size>
          
          <path>./art/controller.svg</path>
          
          <!-- <color>8b0000</color> -->
          
          </image>
          
          <image name="logo">
          
          <path>./art/system.png</path>
          
          </image>
          
          </view>
          
          <view name="basic, detailed, video">
          
          <image name="logo">
          
          <path>./art/system.png</path>
          
          <pos>0.266 0.074</pos>
          
          <maxSize>0.460 0.126</maxSize>
          
          <origin>0.5 0.5</origin>
          
          </image>
          
          <image name="logo2" extra="true">
          
          <path>./art/controller.svg</path>
          
          <pos>0.874 0.074</pos>
          
          <maxSize>0.460 0.126</maxSize>
          
          <origin>0.5 0.5</origin>
          
          <color>bbbbbb</color>
          
          </image>
          
          </view>
          
          <view name="basic"> </view>
          
          <view name="detailed"> </view>
          
          </theme>
          

          Save with Ctrl+o (vowel o) then press Enter to confirm the change and close the file with Ctrl+x

          Remember this instructions for theme are based in theme Carbon if you have another one, you will have to learn how do similar steps but for your current theme.

          Now just type:

          reboot
          

          And enjoy, search for roms!!!

          Thats all!!!

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            mechafatnick @Folly
            last edited by 23 Aug 2021, 06:30

            @folly It seems to be popular :D

            I was playing around earlier because i fired up the DC Virtual fighter 3 and it made me think about how slow the Supermodel Version is in comparison.

            Consequently, i thought I'd go old school and halve the native Model 3 resolution:

            Supermodel-Performance = "XINIT:/opt/retropie/emulators/supermodel/bin/supermodel -res=248,192 %ROM%"
            

            Works a charm. The graphics are a lot jaggier naturally BUT everything is much, much smoother. The only problem is Stretch and Widescreen no longer weem to work for some reason.

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              Folly @4RetroPieTFT
              last edited by 23 Aug 2021, 09:19

              @4retropietft

              Nice job !.

              We can use this for the new thread.
              It would be nice if you could help us with that.

              Personally, I don't have that much time at the moment.
              Hopefully we can start with it in a few weeks or so.

              Just a question, why do you edit the es_systems.cfg ?
              My module-script should already added that.

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                Folly @mechafatnick
                last edited by 23 Aug 2021, 09:21

                @mechafatnick

                Ok, that's a nice one if it will be faster with that resolution.
                No promise, as I don't have much time at the moment, but I will test that if I can.

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                  4RetroPieTFT @mechafatnick
                  last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:50 23 Aug 2021, 12:26

                  @mechafatnick said in Sega model 3 #segamodel3:

                  @folly It seems to be popular :D

                  I was playing around earlier because i fired up the DC Virtual fighter 3 and it made me think about how slow the Supermodel Version is in comparison.

                  Consequently, i thought I'd go old school and halve the native Model 3 resolution:

                  Supermodel-Performance = "XINIT:/opt/retropie/emulators/supermodel/bin/supermodel -res=248,192 %ROM%"
                  

                  Works a charm. The graphics are a lot jaggier naturally BUT everything is much, much smoother. The only problem is Stretch and Widescreen no longer weem to work for some reason.

                  The stretch is rare behaviour, i compiled with your instructions web in raspberry pi os with retropie inside, and just adding the option -wide-screen -wide-bg just go stretched but in a pure retropie image nothing happens, and in raspberry pi os the monitor go to 800x600 automatically trying to show the default resolution of supermodel without option -res , and the square is more big that in retropie.

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                    4RetroPieTFT @Folly
                    last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:50 23 Aug 2021, 12:30

                    @folly oh hehe! Remember i made the tutorial for my web in spanish before i found this thread, i forget that you already add it! 😋 i will fix it now!

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                      mechafatnick @4RetroPieTFT
                      last edited by 24 Aug 2021, 06:43

                      @4retropietft I tried playing around with Matchbox last night but it didn't seem to want top cooperate with me. Still a small box in the middle :D

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                        4RetroPieTFT @mechafatnick
                        last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:51 24 Aug 2021, 14:32

                        @mechafatnick yes matchbox isnt good, i try install desktop, figure in port, but is not intuitive or easy for normal gamers go to ports, then desktop, then launch a game directly with supermodel emulator, you can full the desktop with launcher for every game, but is not so cool like just choose the game in emulationstation

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                          Crush @4RetroPieTFT
                          last edited by 25 Aug 2021, 19:00

                          Glad to see the motivation is back, it wasn't lack of interest that kept us from vocalizing it more the overwhelming amount of info, thanks @4RetroPieTFT for making a recap/tutorial post , it's a great starting point for those (including me) to start messing with it.
                          The more people messing with it, the better the progress.

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                            4RetroPieTFT @mechafatnick
                            last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:50 26 Aug 2021, 16:40

                            @mechafatnick look for something called ximerama, i try lr-mess-jaguar and use ximerama. Dont know i work i have the pendrive busy with an instalation for pc that i dont do it till

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                              4RetroPieTFT @Crush
                              last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:50 26 Aug 2021, 16:44

                              @crush I posted in my web and comment here but with hyperlink, so no one see it haha, and just a few post later red about the need of instructions, that are already in the entire post, so put it here writing t, without the need to go out from here. Thanks. And i dont have reputation for vote, less when in other post i said where to download bios, mtu came to the jugular for copyright hehe, so less reputation.

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                                Folly @4RetroPieTFT
                                last edited by Folly 9 Mar 2021, 19:47 3 Sept 2021, 18:43

                                @4retropietft

                                Please ,
                                Don't delete your posts !
                                ??????

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                                  mitu Global Moderator @Folly
                                  last edited by 3 Sept 2021, 18:51

                                  @folly I restored the posts, however the behavior of the user is not something that's welcomed.

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                                    Folly @mitu
                                    last edited by Folly 9 Mar 2021, 19:57 3 Sept 2021, 18:52

                                    @mitu

                                    Haven't read all the posts.
                                    I understand seeing it now.
                                    Btw, Thanks for restoring it ;-)

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                                      Rommell76
                                      last edited by 17 Oct 2021, 04:07

                                      Hi Everybodies

                                      I am struggling since 1 week around this problem

                                      Everything works perfectly if i launch a game from the terminal

                                      But if i launch it from retropie game starts but wont load the Supermodel.ini file ( that is in the correct directories and shortcut )
                                      Any idea ? I really lack of options
                                      runcommand.png

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                                        Folly @Rommell76
                                        last edited by Folly 18 Oct 2021, 12:42

                                        @rommell76

                                        From your log I can see that you compiled supermodel manually and that you have created the configs also manually.

                                        If you have the line /home/pi/supermodel/bin/supermodel etc. in your emulator.cfg, then It will search the supermodel.ini in the path you are in.
                                        Presumably you are in /home/pi , so it will look in that directory for the supermodel.ini not in /home/pi/supermodel/bin .

                                        If you run it manually, I presume you are already in the path /home/pi/supermodel/bin , running it from there will find the supermodel.ini because you are in the correct path.

                                        My line looks like this :
                                        XINIT:pushd /opt/retropie/emulators/supermodel;/opt/retropie/emulators/supermodel/bin/supermodel

                                        We use pushd here so it will use the correct path and find the supermodel.ini.
                                        As your location is different, you have to change to line to your needs.

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                                          ChaosEffect
                                          last edited by ChaosEffect 12 Nov 2021, 04:19 11 Dec 2021, 03:10

                                          This thread has been super informative!

                                          I became aware of this emulator only a few days ago and am approaching it with a specific use case: Sinden lightguns. The Lost World seems to run great, and The Ocean Hunter seems mostly great aside from maybe some graphical glitches.

                                          I know that it is possible in Windows, but is it possible to activate a raw-input mode for multiple mice for Supermodel in Linux/RetroPie?

                                          The guns are recognized as mice and use built-in cameras to track the game screen based on a superimposed border. In RetroArch, it is easy to apply the border using an overlay. That leads to my second question: can I apply an overlay in Supermodel on a Pi? As above, this is possible in Windows with some Windows-specific configuration.

                                          Finally, I don't think I understand some of the settings. I do understand changing the resolution and the negative effect a higher resolution can have on performance, but is there a way to keep the lower resolution and scale the game screen bigger via stretching? The stretch option in the .ini doesn't seem to be doing anything for me, unless, like I mentioned, I just don't understand what it is supposed to do. EDIT: Just change the video mode in the runcommand menu.

                                          I am also known as "StormedBubbles"

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