PICO-8: Retroarch lr-retro8 core installation script

[Unknown]

@dmmarti you should submit a pull request on GitHub for this.

[Folly]

@dmmarti

Like you asked, I tried the script.
It installs ok, I think.

For now I can't seem to play any games.
With one game it starts a picture but I can't do anything.
When I zip, It boots just black.

Are the games embedded withing a picture .png ?
Or do I have try something else ?

[dmmarti]

@folly

Yea...PICO-8 games have a *.png extension (which is kinda wierd).

I didn't have much success with using them that way. Instead, I zipped them up on my Windows PC (just using normal Windows "send to zip" method).

For example, this game I downloaded from the PICO-8 website:

picotetris-5.p8.png

Didn't run.

I zipped it and it then had this name:

picotetris-5.p8.zip

and then it worked for me.

I'll do some more testing though and see if I can figure out anything.

[Folly]

@dmmarti

Ok, tried that game and it worked.

Earlier I tried these, but I can't get them working :
2048.png
fruitdrop_extreme-0.p8.png
noyjejza-0.p8.png
total_collapse_2-1.p8.png

Will try some other files.

Ok,
More games are working now (zipped):
instant3dplus-0.p8.png
fcv5-0.p8.png

It seems not all games are working though.
When loading the .png's it seems I can only scroll trough all the game pictures I have in the rom directory.

What is your experience ?

[Folly]

@dmmarti

I experimented with the png's

I made a theme for https://github.com/DTEAM-1/cygnus-blue-flames.
The png's are multipurpose and can also be used in a gamelist.xml for displaying the cart in emulationstation.
Here some pictures :

We should find out how SPLORE (the cartridge browser) inside the emulator works. I think we see this browser if we load a png instead of a zip.
If we can't figure out how this works then perhaps it's best to remove the .png extension from the module-script, agreed ?

Btw.
It is possible to scrape the pico-8 website.
( wget -c -r https://.................................... -A p8.png )
It has already done 6000 files. (It will take more that 5 hours though)
(edit : finished, got 6226 files in 6h 33m 43s)

Perhaps not perfect yet, but here are some examples of zipping all files one by one :

#if games are in the same directory (outputs zip files in  the same directory)
cd /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pico8
for i in *.png;do zip $(basename $i .png).zip $i;done 

#if games are in the multiple subdirectories (outputs zip files in one directory)
cd /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pico8
find -name "*.p8.png"|while read i;do zip $(basename $i .png).zip $i;done

#if games are in the multiple subdirectories (outputs zip files in the same directory as the .p8.png)
cd /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pico8
find -name "*.p8.png"|while read i;do zip $(echo $i|sed 's/\.png/\.zip/g') $i;done

[dmmarti]

@folly Woah! Nice!! 6000 .. .wow!

Theme looks great too.

Ah, I didn't think about using the *.png files as cart art too - clever idea.

Yea, it sounds like we should just use *.zip files for the actual rom file extension then and drop *.png. That would probably make life alot easier for everyone.

I'd not experimented with a lot of games - only ran a handful to test the system out.

Thanks for building up this system. I hope some folks find it enjoyable for a casual game or two.

[Folly]

@dmmarti

Ok, I will add it to my repository, but without the .png extension.
We can add it later if we find out how we can run .p8.png's directly.
(edit : added here : https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/tree/main/00-scriptmodules-00/libretrocores )

.
Edit :
I will ask DTEAM for adding the system theme in :
https://github.com/DTEAM-1/cygnus-blue-flames
I will do the same with lowres-nx.
(have a look at the readme, I made a nice animated gif for this theme.
.

We should see if we can build up a nice gamelist.xml .
Basically If I only do the picture then it is fairly easy to create.
Not sure yet, but we could try to make that too.

[Unknown]

@folly when do you plan to submit a pull request for this?

[Folly]

@unknown

Buzz is planning on adding the module-script, by him self, into the original RetroPie-Setup.
Have a look here :
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/30974/lowres-nx-retroarch-core-installation-instructions/9
So we just have to wait a little while before it's added.

I did a pull request for the themes I made.
You can see my pulls here :
https://github.com/DTEAM-1/cygnus-blue-flames/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed

This theme is added now to the original RetroPie-Setup.

[LN_RC]

@folly @dmmarti I think the issue with reading the .p8.png files has to do with the way Retroarch works. I've used Retroarch on mobile and computer to load Pico-8 games, and I find that I have to specifically select the core (retro8) before opening a file in order for the game to launch instead of the image viewer. Perhaps that core selection phase will need to be programmed in somehow in order for the launch to work properly? I'm still pretty new to Retropie so I don't know how that'd work, just trying to find some hints!

Also, when I zip my .p8.png files and the emulator tries to open them, my load freezes up. I can type with a keyboard to enter the retroarch emulator (where I can quit properly with hotkeys), but all I get is a black screen. I may have some issues because I installed the Pico-8 core first using this forum thread, but I don't know what would cause the total freeze. Right now, I have two cores listed, lr-retro8 and pico8_dyn. Would love to use the libretro emulator so I can save progress (if that feature works!)

[Folly]

@ln_rc said in PICO-8: Retroarch lr-retro8 core installation script:

@folly @dmmarti I think the issue with reading the .p8.png files has to do with the way Retroarch works. I've used Retroarch on mobile and computer to load Pico-8 games, and I find that I have to specifically select the core (retro8) before opening a file in order for the game to launch instead of the image viewer. Perhaps that core selection phase will need to be programmed in somehow in order for the launch to work properly?

Basically the core is loaded when a selected rom is loaded.
You can see the "command" in /opt/retropie/configs/pico8/emulators.cfg
So I think it's something else.
We can try and remove the .png extension part and see how RetroArch will react on that.

I'm still pretty new to Retropie so I don't know how that'd work, just trying to find some hints!

Thank you for giving the hints and indeed perhaps we can find some useful leads ;-)

Also, when I zip my .p8.png files and the emulator tries to open them, my load freezes up. I can type with a keyboard to enter the retroarch emulator (where I can quit properly with hotkeys), but all I get is a black screen. I may have some issues because I installed the Pico-8 core first using this forum thread, but I don't know what would cause the total freeze. Right now, I have two cores listed, lr-retro8 and pico8_dyn. Would love to use the libretro emulator so I can save progress (if that feature works!)

Some games will not work.
I had that issue too in the beginning.
Have you tried more games ?

[LN_RC]

@folly I think I see what you mean, though I don't totally understand the code. Let me try to explain better what I see on Windows Retroarch, because the Retroarch also launches the console, but the games launch differently based on how you open them.

Run Method 1:

• Open RetroArch
• Drag .p8.png file straight into RetroArch
• File loads with retro8 engine, but only shows the png file

Run Method 2:

• Open Retroarch
• Click "Load Core"
• Click "Retro8"
• Drag .p8.png file straight into RetroArch
• Game loads properly with retro8 engine

The process looks basically the same since the retro8 engine is set to run in both cases, but for some reason, the manual selection makes the games work while the automatic selection does not.

As with the games, yes I see that some work and some do not. I was able to make some simpler games function such as Tiny Parkour and Picoban. However, many other games don't open. Celeste opened but the music and graphics are very glitchy.

When I try these games in PC RetroArch, the issue is the same, so it seems like the lr-retro8 engine is not fully developed. There's not much we can do about that I don't think. Too bad, I was hoping to play Islander and save my progress with RetroArch. Maybe one day!

[LN_RC]

To follow up here, I figured out a way to use lr-retro8 and pico8_dyn (the official raspberry pi Pico-8 emulator) interchangeably.

This is how my config file looks

default = "pico8_dyn"
pico8_dyn = "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pico8/pico8_dyn -run %ROM%"
lr-retro8 = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-retro8/retro8_libretro.so --config /opt/retropie/configs/pico8/retroarch.cfg %ROM%"

In the roms/pico8/ folder, I put all of the core data files to run the emulator. These include:

• pico8
• pico8.dat
• pico-8.txt
• pico8_dyn
• pico8_gpio
  (I did not need lexaloffle-pico8.png)

However, pico8_dyn does not open .zip files, only .p8.png. Now I've got .p8.png AND .zip files in my roms folder, one for pico_dyn and one for lr-retro8. It's a bit of a mess in there, but I figure this is a temporary fix until either lr-retro8 can run more games or the lr-retro8 emulator can open .p8.png files directly.

[Folly]

@ln_rc

Good posts, explaining from your side.

For now, I can't put my finger on it why it doesn't work the way we think it should.
In time I will look at it once more to see if I get the AHA.

Just renamed a file from .p8.png to .p8
This works on my end.
So it seems the core or retroarch is reacting on the .png part.
Basically we did already know this.

To be continued.......

[LN_RC]

@folly Excellent! I can confirm that the .p8 files without the .png end can be opened with both the libretro engine and the pico8_dyn engine. Now I have freedom of choice. Huzzah!

[Folly]

@ln_rc

Nice to hear.
So .p8 should be added to the module-script.
I will add it when I can.

[Folly]

https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/7ed4f67efbdb8872ea679136322ea356268eacac

[BuZz]

@folly this module looks good btw minus maybe a couple of tweaks but please feel free to submit it as a PR. Thanks.

[theofficialgman]

you can disable the retroarch image viewer in order to allow retroarch to load the .p8.png files

in retropie, this looks like a retroarch.cfg like this

# Settings made here will only override settings in the global retroarch.cfg if placed above the #include line

builtin_imageviewer_enable = "false"

#include "/opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch.cfg"

[BenMcLean]

Wow! It looks like great minds think alike! I have been trying to implement a nicer experience of playing pico8 on retropie too!

I have made a logo for the default EmulationStation skin for pico8:

It comes from this post. I used Aseprite to put a 1 pixel black border around the white version so that the logo will show no matter what color the background is. It would be nice for someone to also make one of those red outline graphics for it too.

The Retro8 core for RetroArch will run many pico8 games but not all. It'd be nice to give people the option to choose between the Retro8 core or the official Pico8 binary if they've placed it on their system just like how people can choose between the ppsspp official binary or the ppsspp retroarch core by holding the "A" button after they select a game in EmulationStation to get that little menu. I'm still not entirely clear on how that all works.

In my opinion:

We need to figure out how to set RetroArch to run the games correctly whether they're .p8 or .p8.png or just .png.. Those are all correct pico8 cart filenames.

Also, always display the cart itself as the image for the cart in the EmulationStation menu. Even if the cart is .p8 -- it should display it as a png image anyway.

My thought was that I'd have a little python script that runs every time you exit Splore which updates the gamelist.xml with whatever new games you added so they'll show in the EmulationStation menu with their little cartridge pictures. I was even trying to make it use picotool to scrape the metadata from the code inside the cartridge but I couldn't get that to work right.