[lr-fbneo] New: right-stick controls for several rotary games

[barbudreadmon]

@sleve_mcdichael said in [lr-fbneo] New: right-stick controls for several rotary games:

This makes Time Soldiers play like Smash TV?

Yes :)

[sleve_mcdichael]

@pjft Time Soldiers has 12-way rotation, but my right-stick is acting like an 8-way. If I rotate with the shoulder buttons I can hit every "hour" but using the stick, I can't shoot in the "two," "five," "eight," or "ten o-clock" positions. It will fire a single shot in the direction as it sweeps past, but it won't "lock in". Can this be corrected?

[pjft]

@sleve_mcdichael Hah, wasn't aware of that - thanks for raising it. I did look through the docs of different games to see if I had missed any such game.

I won't promise anything any time soon, for lack of availability, but it can certainly be looked into.

Any other game in that situation, so that when I look into that I can try to tackle most?

Thanks!

[sleve_mcdichael]

@pjft said in [lr-fbneo] New: right-stick controls for several rotary games:

Any other game in that situation, so that when I look into that I can try to tackle most?

I think Time Soldiers is the only one of these rotary shooters I have in my collection but if I run into any more, is here a good place to say so?

[pjft]

@sleve_mcdichael definitely! Thanks for bringing it up. I'll do my best to look into it in the coming weeks of time allows, but I really can't suggest when for the time being.

[Drdave79]

I'll add some to the list for people's information! Granted I already got a majority of these to work, one way or another.

Crazy Climber
Battlezone
Karate Champ (2 versions)
Smash TV
Robotron 2084

I haven't had much success with

Discs of Tron
Tron Arcade

[sleve_mcdichael]

@Drdave79 said in [lr-fbneo] New: right-stick controls for several rotary games:

Smash TV
Robotron 2084

This is actually about games like Time Soldiers or Heavy Barrel that have a single stick with a rotating knob to control movement & multidirectional fire at the same time. You can now play them in FBNeo with twin-stick controllers as if they were those other games.

[Drdave79]

@sleve_mcdichael Both Tron Arcade and Disks of Tron were a stick and dial.

[sleve_mcdichael]

@Drdave79 I haven't played Discs of Tron, but the regular one (tron.zip) works already with the left-stick horizontal working the dial by default. If you map left-stick to directions, right-stick to the dial, and both triggers to the "button" (there's only one) it works a treat.

[Drdave79]

@sleve_mcdichael Not entirely sure how you even do that.

[sleve_mcdichael]

@Drdave79 said in [lr-fbneo] New: right-stick controls for several rotary games:

@sleve_mcdichael Not entirely sure how you even do that.

Launch the game in lr-fbneo; open the RetroArch GUI with hotkey + X; navigate to quick menu > controls > port 1 controls (I forget if this was 2P simul., repeat for port 2 controls if necessary); change this:

...to this:

Go back up one level to the controls menu, and save game remap file.

[Drdave79]

@sleve_mcdichael Thank you! I'm going to look into this. Apparently I either have the wrong rom or it's broken. Once I fix that, I'll try it in fbneo.

[sleve_mcdichael]

@Drdave79 I tried Discs of Tron (dotron.zip) and it already has the dial mapped to right-stick and movement on the left, so all it really needs here is to map the two buttons to the triggers so you don't have to take your thumb off the stick to fire or deflect.

[Drdave79]

@sleve_mcdichael All running through lr-fbneo? Interesting. I've been using Mame 2000, but apparently I've got the wrong rom set for fbneo so I have to fix those. Still working on that.

[sleve_mcdichael]

@Drdave79 yes both through FBNeo. I find it is generally more performant on games it will run; I only look to one of the MAMEs when a title is not available for FBN.

[Drdave79]

@sleve_mcdichael That's very interesting. When I ran the rom under fbneo it errored out. I'll work on fixing it and try your suggestions. As always, I appreciate your contributions/suggestions! Thank you.

[roslof]

@pjft really enjoying this.

Frontline (Taito) is another game like this. The rotor was 8-directional and I believe depressing it toggled a standard "fire" (Button 1 equivalent). A separate Granade/Tank (Button 2) button was also used.

[Drdave79]

@sleve_mcdichael Unfortunately I can't get the roms to load in fbneo. They work fine in 2000 for Tron and 2010 for Discs of Tron. Though the option menus are different. As much tinkering I do (daily) with my arcade, finding correct rom versions for mame emulation continues to evade me. I don't want to rehash my problem as I've already posted about it, but it's the one thing that I am still stuck on. I know the best advice given was get the correct rom to work with the correct emulator instead of the other way around. But I've never been able to figure out rom versions from the sites that I find them on.

[sleve_mcdichael]

@Drdave79 said in [lr-fbneo] New: right-stick controls for several rotary games:

@sleve_mcdichael Unfortunately I can't get the roms to load in fbneo. They work fine in 2000 for Tron and 2010 for Discs of Tron.

You're not using the same mame2000 rom file in fbneo, are you?

[Drdave79]

@sleve_mcdichael It's the only one I have.