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Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B

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    roslof @mitu
    last edited by roslof 21 Jul 2022, 04:48

    @mitu said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

    You trace what ES is doing during that time using strace (needs to be installed with sudo apt install strace).

    When the slowdown/freeze starts, run

    strace -f -p `pidof emulationstation` -o $HOME/es_trace.log
    

    and leave it for a few seconds. Interrupt with Ctrl + C and post the log on pastebin.com.

    PASTEBIN HERE

    Useful. It's stuck in a temp loop.
    You'll note 100,000 Pyramid.png repeats.

    This was the last game played and the matching screenshot image. Subsequent restarts of ES yield the same. I confirmed that launching any other game from any system will display that game's screenshot in the log repeatedly.

    EDIT/WORKAROUND: Found the configuration diff. Current system has the Automatic Game Collection "Last Played" enabled. Older (faster system) does not. Turning off "Last Played" solves.

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      mitu Global Moderator
      last edited by 21 Jul 2022, 04:56

      @roslof said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

      You'll note 100,000 Pyramid.png repeats.

      Well, you need to get to that 100,000 somehow :).

      Turning off "Last Played" solves.

      Yeah, there's something fishy with that loop for the last played collection.

      Can you zip your gamelists (the .xml files) and attach them somewhere ? I could try to reproduce the issue on my end and see where's the bug.

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        roslof @mitu
        last edited by 21 Jul 2022, 05:00

        @mitu said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

        @roslof said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

        You'll note 100,000 Pyramid.png repeats.

        Well, you need to get to that 100,000 somehow :).

        Turning off "Last Played" solves.

        Yeah, there's something fishy with that loop for the last played collection.

        Can you zip your gamelists (the .xml files) and attach them somewhere ? I could try to reproduce the issue on my end and see where's the bug.

        Can do. Confirming: Since they're all named gamelist.xml, should I place each one in it's own <system_name> folder?

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          mitu Global Moderator
          last edited by 21 Jul 2022, 05:06

          Use this:

          # if gamelists are in the rom folders
          cd $HOME/RetroPie/roms
          find -type f -name gamelist.xml | zip -@ zippy1.zip
          
          # if gamelists are in the ES config folder, then
          cd $HOME/.emulationstation/gamelists
          find -type f -name gamelist.xml | zip -@ zippy2.zip
          

          and upload the .zip files somewhere.

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            roslof @mitu
            last edited by roslof 21 Jul 2022, 05:14

            @mitu said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

            and upload the .zip files somewhere.

            Yeah, you make this too easy.
            somewhere (feeling cheeky)
            UPDATE: ZIP is now password protected. PW is my complete email.

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              mitu Global Moderator
              last edited by mitu 21 Jul 2022, 19:34

              You can remove the file, I've downloaded it.

              After creating files from the gamelists and loading them in ES, I can see the issue also. Note that some games haven't been added, the ones in sub-folders.

              The problem is indeed related to the Recent games collection, you have a lot of them games with lastplayed set. Now, the Recent collection is a bit more special than the others, it's picking up all games where lastplayed is set, then sorts it and finally shrinks it to 50 items. The issue is in the shrinking stage, since removing has more checks then simply adding the file, here's a rundown (note the timestamp on each operation):

              [...]
              Jul 21 20:23:54 lvl1: 	File "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/zxspectrum/Snoopy & Peanuts (1989)(Softek International)(128k).zip" does not exist! Ignoring.
              Jul 21 20:23:57 lvl2: 	Finished collecting: all, size: 50702
              Jul 21 20:23:58 lvl2: 	Finished collecting: favorites, size: 295
              Jul 21 20:23:58 lvl2: 	Finished collecting: recent, size: 6199
              Jul 21 20:23:58 lvl2: 	 Begin trimming
              Jul 21 20:24:28 lvl2: 	 Ended trimming
              Jul 21 20:24:28 lvl2: 	Finished triming: recent
              Jul 21 20:24:35 lvl3: 	SystemView::getViewElements()
              Jul 21 20:24:35 lvl3: 	fireEvent: system-select 3do gotostart
              

              Most of the time is spent in the trimming code, which looks to be inefficient when called 6000+ times to remove 1 game at a time.

              While not a bug, I think there's some optimizations that can be done to make this go faster.

              EDIT: did you really started 6000+ games or is this some sort of scraping fluke ?

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                roslof @mitu
                last edited by 21 Jul 2022, 19:38

                @mitu said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

                While not a bug, I think there's some optimizations that can be done to make this go faster.

                Makes sense and understood. I could easily scrub the XML files and remove the recent flags, but this will slow over time. Best for me, for now, to simply turn off the Recent collection.

                Cheers, @mitu !

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                  roslof @mitu
                  last edited by 21 Jul 2022, 19:39

                  @mitu said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

                  EDIT: did you really started 6000+ games or is this some sort of scraping fluke ?

                  I have, and not a fluke. Working on this since 2017 and never stopped. You can see by the most 'recent recents' that there are frequently many game tests a day.

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                    mitu Global Moderator
                    last edited by 21 Jul 2022, 19:43

                    @roslof said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

                    Best for me, for now, to simply turn off the Recent collection.

                    Yeah, that's unfortunate (for now), but it's best to keep lastplayed saved. I myself use it as a start system, this way when ES starts, you're back to your last played games and start again.

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                      mitu Global Moderator
                      last edited by 27 Aug 2022, 04:11

                      @roslof when you have the chance, can you try installing the latest emulationstation-dev from source ? There's a fix added that should help speed up the initial loading.

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                        roslof @mitu
                        last edited by 27 Aug 2022, 19:44

                        @mitu said in Requesting help for diagnosing ES issue on Pi4B:

                        @roslof when you have the chance, can you try installing the latest emulationstation-dev from source ? There's a fix added that should help speed up the initial loading.

                        @mitu as you would expect, with Last Played toggled true, load times are no longer in excess of 50 seconds for me. Cheers to you for the fix!

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