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      bbilford83
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      Also, one more quick update, I did the gamelist and art for the Tandy Video Information System today, not that many games so was relatively quick and easy. To my great surprise almost half of the games are scrapable via thegamesdb (not on screenscraper though), but for the rest I had to make up the descriptions myself after briefly playing the games, and I got/made art from a site devoted to VIS (and one ebay listing). So if you or @DTEAM think that should be integrated feel free... it is a pretty awful system (unbelievable load times) but it plays decently and is kind of interesting historically. I don't think you can play it via any other emulator outside of mame. Anyway, as usual I fixed the gamelist the right way and added the art all in the same google drive place (folder: vis).

      Related to my last post, though, this is only the chds that are found in the vis mame software list. In the TOSEC list, instead of these ~21 there are 70+. I don't have any idea why, as they all appear to still be good dumps. I'll be adding those to my setup even if you still prefer I only share a gamelist limited to mame romsets.

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        Folly @bbilford83
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        Happy new year to everyone reading this thread.
        Great start for 2024 we passed the 700000 views.

        @bbilford83

        Thanks for adding gamelist stuff.
        Basically you ask me if you can also add the tosec roms to the gamelists, right ?
        It's fine by me.
        I would prefer that the mame roms are added first in the gamelist and that the tosec roms added later in that same gamelist.

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            bbilford83 @Folly
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            @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

            Thanks for adding gamelist stuff.
            Basically you ask me if you can also add the tosec roms to the gamelists, right ?
            It's fine by me.
            I would prefer that the mame roms are added first in the gamelist and that the tosec roms added later in that same gamelist.

            That is basically my question but I was suggesting something even less than that, like keeping it as a separate gamelist when it has the ROMs that go beyond the MAME software list. Either way the ROMs that aren't from MAME would be at the end of the game list just because I am testing them and adding them as a second batch after I finish the MAME ones, but if you prefer the default to be limited to the software list ROMs I could make that one "gamelist" and the much larger one "gamelistMAME+" or something.

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              DTEAM @Folly
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              @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

              Happy new year to everyone reading this thread.
              Great start for 2024 we passed the 700000 views.

              Happy new year Folly !!!!! Very impressive... 700k !

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                Folly @DTEAM
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                @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                Happy new year to everyone reading this thread.
                Great start for 2024 we passed the 700000 views.

                Happy new year Folly !!!!! Very impressive... 700k !

                Yea, seems to go very fast the last months.
                Looks like many people are discovering it.
                That's really great ;-)

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                  Folly @bbilford83
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                  @bbilford83 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                  @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                  Thanks for adding gamelist stuff.
                  Basically you ask me if you can also add the tosec roms to the gamelists, right ?
                  It's fine by me.
                  I would prefer that the mame roms are added first in the gamelist and that the tosec roms added later in that same gamelist.

                  That is basically my question but I was suggesting something even less than that, like keeping it as a separate gamelist when it has the ROMs that go beyond the MAME software list. Either way the ROMs that aren't from MAME would be at the end of the game list just because I am testing them and adding them as a second batch after I finish the MAME ones, but if you prefer the default to be limited to the software list ROMs I could make that one "gamelist" and the much larger one "gamelistMAME+" or something.

                  I don't mind, you can put them all in 1 gamelist.

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                    Folly @DTEAM
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                    @DTEAM @bbilford83

                    Luckily, yesterday I was able to order an 8GB PI5.
                    Expecting it tomorrow.
                    Curious how everything will work on the PI5.

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                      bbilford83 @Folly
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                      @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                      @bbilford83 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                      @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                      Thanks for adding gamelist stuff.
                      Basically you ask me if you can also add the tosec roms to the gamelists, right ?
                      It's fine by me.
                      I would prefer that the mame roms are added first in the gamelist and that the tosec roms added later in that same gamelist.

                      That is basically my question but I was suggesting something even less than that, like keeping it as a separate gamelist when it has the ROMs that go beyond the MAME software list. Either way the ROMs that aren't from MAME would be at the end of the game list just because I am testing them and adding them as a second batch after I finish the MAME ones, but if you prefer the default to be limited to the software list ROMs I could make that one "gamelist" and the much larger one "gamelistMAME+" or something.

                      I don't mind, you can put them all in 1 gamelist.

                      OK, for now the only gamelists I've gone beyond the mame list are the C64GS and the VIS, and I am still adding more VIS. But I will update C64GS shortly and VIS when I'm done (soon).

                      FYI, while the VIS list was almost half scrapable when I just did the MAME files, now that I expanded to TOSEC almost none are scrapable. I have been adding my own descriptions and pictures I am digging up from various places. So it might be worth integrating more than I thought... the system is awfully obscure.

                      Also FYI, I don't know if this is the case for all systems and I just never noticed, but for some reason VIS won't play any games that have an apostrophe - ' - anywhere in the title. Gives some weird syntax error in the runcommand log. But it works fine so long as I remove the apostrophe. Took me a while to figure out that was the problem!

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                        Folly @bbilford83
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                        @bbilford83 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                        @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                        @bbilford83 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                        @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                        Thanks for adding gamelist stuff.
                        Basically you ask me if you can also add the tosec roms to the gamelists, right ?
                        It's fine by me.
                        I would prefer that the mame roms are added first in the gamelist and that the tosec roms added later in that same gamelist.

                        That is basically my question but I was suggesting something even less than that, like keeping it as a separate gamelist when it has the ROMs that go beyond the MAME software list. Either way the ROMs that aren't from MAME would be at the end of the game list just because I am testing them and adding them as a second batch after I finish the MAME ones, but if you prefer the default to be limited to the software list ROMs I could make that one "gamelist" and the much larger one "gamelistMAME+" or something.

                        I don't mind, you can put them all in 1 gamelist.

                        OK, for now the only gamelists I've gone beyond the mame list are the C64GS and the VIS, and I am still adding more VIS. But I will update C64GS shortly and VIS when I'm done (soon).

                        FYI, while the VIS list was almost half scrapable when I just did the MAME files, now that I expanded to TOSEC almost none are scrapable. I have been adding my own descriptions and pictures I am digging up from various places. So it might be worth integrating more than I thought... the system is awfully obscure.

                        Keep up the good work ;-)

                        Also FYI, I don't know if this is the case for all systems and I just never noticed, but for some reason VIS won't play any games that have an apostrophe - ' - anywhere in the title. Gives some weird syntax error in the runcommand log. But it works fine so long as I remove the apostrophe. Took me a while to figure out that was the problem!

                        Yes, now you mention it.
                        Indeed, if a game has a singel-quote - ' - lr-mame/lr-mess will refuse to work.
                        It's the same reason why we can't add an empty joystick slot.
                        It's because the options for mame in the libretro cores are added between the single-quotes.
                        That is basically the only way we can add the options to the lr-mess/lr-mame libretrocores.
                        If somehow an extra quote is in the middle of the added options the runcommand will be read until that quote assuming it's the last quote and therefor refuse to work.

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                          bbilford83 @Folly
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                          @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                          Also FYI, I don't know if this is the case for all systems and I just never noticed, but for some reason VIS won't play any games that have an apostrophe - ' - anywhere in the title. Gives some weird syntax error in the runcommand log. But it works fine so long as I remove the apostrophe. Took me a while to figure out that was the problem!

                          Yes, now you mention it.
                          Indeed, if a game has a singel-quote - ' - lr-mame/lr-mess will refuse to work.
                          It's the same reason why we can't add an empty joystick slot.
                          It's because the options for mame in the libretro cores are added between the single-quotes.
                          That is basically the only way we can add the options to the lr-mess/lr-mame libretrocores.
                          If somehow an extra quote is in the middle of the added options the runcommand will be read until that quote assuming it's the last quote and therefor refuse to work.

                          This makes sense... I bet I never noticed before because as long as I was keeping in mame softwarelist roms those never would have an apostrophe. The ones I'm using now have full titles in the names so those have possessive nouns in them. Thanks for the explanation!

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                            bbilford83
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                            Quick update, I finished VIS and now instead of 21 entries the gamelist is 68 - I updated the list and art on google drive. The vast majority I had to find info from random websites, and pretty much everything it plays is terrible, but it is interesting history regardless. Crazy fact I learned... it sold for $699 when it was released in 1999. What a disaster.

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                              DTEAM @bbilford83
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                              @bbilford83

                              I will add VIS to my theme. You found something I didn't know existed. It looks like CDI. Can you share your gamelist again please, I lost your hyperlink.

                              NEW EDIT : VIS (video information system) is now added to Cygnus Blue Flames theme

                              I modified the mascot "canevas" for the theme , now it looks better.

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                                bbilford83 @DTEAM
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                                @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                @bbilford83

                                I will add VIS to my theme. You found something I didn't know existed. It looks like CDI. Can you share your gamelist again please, I lost your hyperlink.

                                NEW EDIT : VIS (video information system) is now added to Cygnus Blue Flames theme

                                Yes it is just like CDI basically. Just seems to have failed even more spectacularly. And no problem on the link, here you go.

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                                  DTEAM @bbilford83
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                                  @bbilford83 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                  Just seems to have failed even more spectacularly.

                                  😆
                                  https://www.pcmag.com/news/the-worst-video-game-consoles-of-all-time

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                                    Retrodade @Folly
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                                    @Folly keep us posted thanks

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                                      Retrodade @bbilford83
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                                      @bbilford83 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                      Tandy/Memorex "Visual Information System"

                                      how do I get this working? any .sh to install? thanks

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                                        bbilford83 @Retrodade
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                                        @Retrodade said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                        @bbilford83 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                        Tandy/Memorex "Visual Information System"

                                        how do I get this working? any .sh to install? thanks

                                        It's the same as all the other systems you can install with the script that's the subject of this thread, you just install the system for "vis." Then you need the viz.zip (bios) and roms in CHD format. You can use the software list ones but that's only about 20 and there are a lot more you can find in other sets.

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                                          bbilford83 @DTEAM
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                                          @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                          @bbilford83 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                          Just seems to have failed even more spectacularly.

                                          😆
                                          https://www.pcmag.com/news/the-worst-video-game-consoles-of-all-time

                                          Interesting to see the C64GS on that list too! Though I think they lose credibility by not mentioning the XEGS or the LJN Videoart :).

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                                            DTEAM @DTEAM
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                                            @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                            @bbilford83

                                            I will add VIS to my theme. You found something I didn't know existed. It looks like CDI. Can you share your gamelist again please, I lost your hyperlink.

                                            NEW EDIT : VIS (video information system) is now added to Cygnus Blue Flames theme

                                            IMG_6978.jpg

                                            I modified the mascot "canevas" for the theme , now it looks better ..... Maybe 😆

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