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    • mituM
      mitu Global Moderator @sirhenrythe5th
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      @sirhenrythe5th said in So is the Raspberry Pi 5 dead?:

      OK, so next project....manual installation.

      Remember that the Pi5 has no out-of-the-box video analog output (i.e. composite). You can get composite through a couple of pins, but I think is video only, no audio.

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      • sirhenrythe5thS
        sirhenrythe5th @mitu
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        @mitu i am impressed that you even remember that i am one of those "CRT-guys" :D
        I will use regular HDMI-Out in the first step, as i did with the Pi4.
        I did not give up the idea of connecting a current Pi to my CRTs, but that is a future project, thinking of a HDMI-Scart-Converter...but i have to collect a lot of information in advance.

        Thanks a lot and kind regards!

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          mth75 @scaramoosh
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          @scaramoosh At the moment I'm developing my Pi5/Retropie build. So not quite dead ...

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            mth75 @mitu
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            @mitu What is the status of Vulkan/Mesa integration? I'm not quite successful with installing those in a workable fashion.

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            • mituM
              mitu Global Moderator @mth75
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              @mth75 said in So is the Raspberry Pi 5 dead?:

              What is the status of Vulkan/Mesa integration?

              Not merged yet - https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/pull/3785. Though it's nothing spectactular since the usual suspects don't benefit from it on a Pi5:

              • PPSSPP needs x11 when using Vulkan
              • Dolphin doesn't work with Vulkan
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                mth75 @mitu
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                @mitu I'm hoping Vulkan with Box64/Wine64 will result in more interesting games running.

                Thx for the info!

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                • mituM
                  mitu Global Moderator @mth75
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                  @mth75 said in So is the Raspberry Pi 5 dead?:

                  I'm hoping Vulkan with Box64/Wine64 will result in more interesting games running.

                  In this case you don't need anything on the RetroPie side, the Vulkan driver is part of Mesa and it should work on the desktop regardless of RetroPie's Vulkan support for emulators or not.

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                    ionx @mitu
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                    @mitu I think the most benefits from Vulkan come with Naomi and Naomi 2 games that don't run at full speed with OpenGL.

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                    • mituM
                      mitu Global Moderator @ionx
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                      @ionx said in So is the Raspberry Pi 5 dead?:

                      @mitu I think the most benefits from Vulkan come with Naomi and Naomi 2 games that don't run at full speed with OpenGL.

                      Got any specific number comparins performance on a Pi5 with GLES vs Vulkan ?

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                        ionx @mitu
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                        @mitu

                        Yes, Club Kart European Session (Naomi 2) experiences massive frame drops, dropping under 50 fps in busy areas without Vulkan. However, with Vulkan and the 'per strip to fast' setting in lr-flycast, it runs at full speed, maintaining a steady 60 fps.

                        Similarly, Airline Pilots (NAOMI) experiences improved performance with Vulkan, running at full speed without frame drops.

                        It seems that lr-flycast-dev benefits greatly from this.

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                          mth75 @mitu
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                          @mitu

                          @mitu said in So is the Raspberry Pi 5 dead?:

                          art of Mesa and it should work on the desktop regardless of RetroPie's Vulkan support for emulators or not.

                          I'm running from within ES'ses carousel (init/matchbox-window-manager). I don't want a desktop installation (so bookworm lite + Retropie).

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                          • JirynJ
                            Jiryn @sirhenrythe5th
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                            @sirhenrythe5th
                            I'll fully admit I'm a little impatient now
                            I bought it last year around Nov/Dec and expected to see a RetroPie in 5-6 months....
                            it feels like it's well over due.
                            But as long as it works, and I can play some almost perfect System 32 Goodness.

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                            • retropieuser555R
                              retropieuser555 @Jiryn
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                              @Jiryn have you tried the manual install?

                              If you have a spare SD card knocking about I'd give that a go, as it might help you learn a little more about the mechanics of Linux and the file structure process it's built on

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                                Jiryn @retropieuser555
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                                @retropieuser555
                                Had to take 2-3 semesters of Unix/Linux back as an undergrad...
                                Granted that was 20yrs ago, but it shouldn't have changed that much.
                                Not used, or even touched it since getting my degrees (Masters in Netwrok Administration/Engineer), so you may be right about needing a refresh.
                                (Unless you count modifying the system files through command prompt on older pis)

                                As for the SD-Card, I have a 1TB on stand by for when the image is release.
                                I had been thinking of a manual install, just lazy and working on multiple things.

                                Basically, my PI is so I can play and stream Arcade Games, 32X, and legacy consoles I don't own (The Ataris)

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                                  Efriim
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                                  Installing retropie on rpi5 right now. It has been a few years since ive been on here, back when we were all(mostly) using rpi3b+

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                                  • retropieuser555R
                                    retropieuser555 @Jiryn
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                                    @Jiryn with that SD card, I'd look into an SSD if you have a cheap one knocking around? Using one of the m.2 adapters (I use the pimoroni base) to attach some simple m.2 SSD storage has been a blessing as it does give a nice speedy boost over SD cards, so that alone is nice to play around with.

                                    And being able to read/write the sram data of games every few seconds rather than every minute for fear of overwriting the SD card is quite nice too

                                    Pi 5 4GB

                                    Retroflag GPI with raspberry pi zero 2 w/ wifi

                                    Retroachievements:- lovelessrapture

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                                    • JirynJ
                                      Jiryn @retropieuser555
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                                      @retropieuser555
                                      I don't think my case will allow for an SDD.. hell it wouldn't even let me have the official fan/thermal kit
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                                      Sadly, I also don't know where to start on self installing.

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                                        mitu Global Moderator
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                                        I think this topic has run its course and instead has become a Pi5 related questions dumping ground - please use the pinned Raspberry Pi 5 topic instead for Pi5 complaints or questions/ideas.

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