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    • FollyF
      Folly
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      Updated to 281.

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      • duglorD
        duglor @Folly
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        @Folly Pardon the interupton.

        But I'd like to play Bubsy in lr-Mess-Jaguar emulator. Is that still MAME based? I have heard that Bubsy plays at a much faster speed than virtual jaguar with MESS in Retropie 4.x.

        I have a bios called jagboot.zip and jagboot.rom is my bios folder.

        Now....so far i have not been able to run the Bubsy .j64, the .j64 in the bubsy folder, or the bubsy.zip with lr-mess-jaguar chosen as my emulator. It just kicks me out.

        Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.

        p.s. btw, all my bubsy names in the folder are lower case. -Doug

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        • DTEAMD
          DTEAM @duglor
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          @duglor

          To have a good gaming experience on Atari Jaguar, I use Retropie on 64 bit and Vulkan. On 32 bit the experience is bad for Atari Jaguar. Bubsy goes 60 FPS with lr-virtualjaguar and MAME standalone.

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          • DTEAMD
            DTEAM @Folly
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            @Folly
            MAME 0.281
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            • FollyF
              Folly @DTEAM
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              @DTEAM

              Added throwbck to all_in1 in the database for 281.

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              • DTEAMD
                DTEAM @Folly
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                @Folly

                SEGA Model 2 works very well on MAME standalone. You need recent roms to do it. It's at full speed or almost and the sound is a little bit choppy (Daytona).

                I have try this in the mame.ini file (no impact or little),:

                video bgfx
                bgfx_path /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/bgfx
                bgfx_backend vulkan
                bgfx_screen_chains default
                

                Did I make an error?

                I read that you're supposed to enable

                MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE = relaxed
                

                in a .sh file before loading MAME, but I have no idea how to do it. I don't know if it's necessary. Can you try it please?

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                • FollyF
                  Folly @DTEAM
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                  @DTEAM

                  I just tried in the terminal but it does not seem to have any impact.

                  pi@debian-13:~$ MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE = relaxed
                  bash: MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE: command not found
                  pi@debian-13:~$ MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE=relaxed
                  pi@debian-13:~$ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame daytona
                  Average speed: 82.30% (50 seconds)
                  pi@debian-13:~$ echo $MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE
                  relaxed
                  

                  First line does not work because of spaces.
                  Second line works and changes the environment variable.
                  Then I run daytona
                  In the last line you see that the variable is still contains relaxed.

                  This is without :

                  pi@debian-13:~$ echo $MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE
                  
                  pi@debian-13:~$ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame daytona
                  Average speed: 83.69% (47 seconds)
                  

                  Empty line means that the variable is empty.
                  You see it makes no difference.

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                  • FollyF
                    Folly @DTEAM
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                    @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                    I have try this in the mame.ini file (no impact or little),:

                    video bgfx
                    bgfx_path /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/bgfx
                    bgfx_backend vulkan

                    bgfx_screen_chains default

                    Did I make an error?

                    I honestly do not know.

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                    • FollyF
                      Folly @DTEAM
                      last edited by Folly

                      @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                      SEGA Model 2 works very well on MAME standalone. You need recent roms to do it. It's at full speed or almost and the sound is a little bit choppy (Daytona).

                      I tried more games and indeed they work pretty well, however i am using a x86_64 laptop with 3.5Ghz cpu.
                      I like hotd, though you have to use the service button first to change the local settings.
                      And if you want to shoot with the mouse you have to enable that in the mame.ini (mouse = 1).
                      To refill your gun you need to aim to the edge of the screen and shoot (I think).

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                      • DTEAMD
                        DTEAM @Folly
                        last edited by DTEAM

                        @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                        @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                        SEGA Model 2 works very well on MAME standalone. You need recent roms to do it. It's at full speed or almost and the sound is a little bit choppy (Daytona).

                        I tried more games and indeed they work pretty well, however i am using a x86_64 laptop with 3.5Ghz cpu.
                        I like hotd, though you have to use the service button first to change the local settings.
                        And if you want to shoot with the mouse you have to enable that in the mame.ini (mouse = 1).
                        To refill your gun you need to aim to the edge of the screen and shoot (I think).

                        For Sega Model 2 with MAME, some games have sound issues (choppy) and slightly speed issues, but some games like Dynamite Cop, Manx TT, OverRev (better graphics with Vulkan), Sega Water Ski, Sky Target, The House of death, VirtuaCop 2, Wave Runner and more work perfectly on a Pi5 (64 bit) !!!! It's impressive.

                        New edit: I added this in my mame.ini file:

                        video bgfx
                        bgfx_path /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/bgfx
                        bgfx_backend vulkan
                        bgfx_screen_chains default
                        video accel
                        syncrefresh 1
                        
                        #samplerate 11025
                        #samplerate 22050
                        samplerate 44100
                        #samplerate 48000
                        
                        mouse 1
                        multimouse 1
                        

                        For some games, I reduced the sound quality a little bit. Some games run well at 48000 and you don't need to do that.

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                        • FollyF
                          Folly @DTEAM
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                          @DTEAM

                          Do you use frameskipping too?

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                          • DTEAMD
                            DTEAM @Folly
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                            @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                            @DTEAM

                            Do you use frameskipping too?

                            No

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                            • FollyF
                              Folly
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                              Mame binary for Trixie aarch64 for rpi 3,4 and 5 has been added

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                              • duglorD
                                duglor @DTEAM
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                                @DTEAM @Folly How do you/ can you get Pc98 hdi disks to run under MAME standalone in the retropie? or Lr-Mame, etc? There is a pc98 game outside retropie that works with Mame but not NP2kai. On Retropie 4.X it also does not run under NP2Kai. I was wondering if I can/could test it with MAME in Retropie?

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                                • duglorD
                                  duglor @Folly
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                                  @Folly @DTEAM How can I run Bubsy for Jaguar under lr-Mess? or Mame standalone? not virtual Jaguar.

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                                  • FollyF
                                    Folly @duglor
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                                    @duglor

                                    @duglor said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                    @Folly @DTEAM How can I run Bubsy for Jaguar under lr-Mess? or Mame standalone? not virtual Jaguar.

                                    Just tried bubsy on jaguar for you.
                                    Sadly the game crashes at the beginning after the exclamation mark appears.
                                    Seems this game doesn't work with mame.

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                                    • FollyF
                                      Folly @duglor
                                      last edited by Folly

                                      @duglor said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                      @DTEAM @Folly How do you/ can you get Pc98 hdi disks to run under MAME standalone in the retropie? or Lr-Mame, etc?

                                      It could work in mame standalone.
                                      For lr-mame it doesn't work as in retropie lr-mame is arcade only, you would need lr-mess then.

                                      There is a pc98 game outside retropie that works with Mame but not NP2kai. On Retropie 4.X it also does not run under NP2Kai. I was wondering if I can/could test it with MAME in Retropie?

                                      You should be able to install pc9801 with harddisk support OOB from the menu item :
                                      Choose and install systems with default settings
                                      Then use the runcommand mame-pc9801-hard to load the harddrive directly.
                                      It has support for these types of harddrive images :
                                      pc9801 harddisk (hard) .chd .hd .hdv .2mg .hdi

                                      PS.
                                      Not tested but it could work.

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                                        DTEAM @Folly
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                                        @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                        @duglor

                                        @duglor said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                        @Folly @DTEAM How can I run Bubsy for Jaguar under lr-Mess? or Mame standalone? not virtual Jaguar.

                                        Just tried bubsy on jaguar for you.
                                        Sadly the game crashes at the beginning after the exclamation mark appears.
                                        Seems this game doesn't work with mame.

                                        Bubsy works well on my side at full speed. I’m using Vulkan with Mame and Lr-virtualjaguar

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                                        • FollyF
                                          Folly @DTEAM
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                                          @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                          @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                          @duglor

                                          @duglor said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                          @Folly @DTEAM How can I run Bubsy for Jaguar under lr-Mess? or Mame standalone? not virtual Jaguar.

                                          Just tried bubsy on jaguar for you.
                                          Sadly the game crashes at the beginning after the exclamation mark appears.
                                          Seems this game doesn't work with mame.

                                          Bubsy works well on my side at full speed. I’m using Vulkan with Mame and Lr-virtualjaguar

                                          @DTEAM @duglor
                                          Got it working too.
                                          Pressed a button to start the game before the exclamation mark comes, then I can play.

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                                          • FollyF
                                            Folly @duglor
                                            last edited by Folly

                                            @duglor

                                            You should install jaguar from the menu item :
                                            Choose and install systems with default settings and select or insert jaguar.
                                            The script will use the retropie install name atarijaguar.
                                            Copy the jaguar.zip bios to the BIOS/mame folder.
                                            Get the jaguar.zip soflist roms and unzip the roms to the atarijaguar rom folder.
                                            That should do the trick.

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