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Sega Pico ROM support in RetroPie

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    backstander
    last edited by backstander 12 Dec 2016, 22:38 12 Dec 2016, 22:37

    In my video game research I recently came across the Sega Pico which is "an educational video game console by Sega and powered by the same hardware used in the Sega Genesis, the physical shape of the Pico was designed to appear similar to a laptop. Included in the Pico are a stylus called the "Magic Pen" and a pad to draw on. Controlling the games for the system is accomplished either by using the Magic Pen like a mouse or by pressing the directional buttons on the console."

    I tried a couple of the ROMs (which had the .md extension) and they ran in both lr-picodrive and lr-genesis-plus-gx. I bet that's where PicoDrive got its name. Anyways all the buttons and dpad works but I don't have a way to emulate the "Magic Pen" stylus so I couldn't really "play" any of the games I tried. Does anyone know of a way to use like a USB mouse to emulator the "Magic Pen"?

    What I'm running:
    Pi Model: 3B
    RetroPie Version Used: 4.1.5 (I think)
    Built From: Pre made SD Image on RetroPie website
    USB Devices connected: USB keyboard & mouse
    Controller used: wireless Xbox 360 controller
    Emulator: lr-picodrive & lr-genesis-plus-gx

    M 1 Reply Last reply 14 Dec 2016, 16:03 Reply Quote 1
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      mediamogul Global Moderator @backstander
      last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 16:03

      @backstander

      As nice as RetroArch is, it's notorious for leaving this type of peripheral functionality out during integration. I can't find a word about the 'Magic Pen' at the RetroArch wiki, but the PicoDrive emulator is perfectly capable of pen emulation by way the mouse. Perhaps like Stella for the 2600, a standalone port would be necessary to control all the games.

      RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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        backstander @mediamogul
        last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 16:36

        @mediamogul

        As nice as RetroArch is, it's notorious for leaving this type of peripheral functionality out during integration.

        That is what I'm discovering in my searches as well but I did find something about lr-genesis-plus-gx now having Light Gun / Mouse support

        a standalone port would be necessary to control all the games.

        I was actually thinking the same thing last night and started experimenting with DGen which I can get a mouse point to show and move on top of the game but I can't get the game to use it as the "Magic Pen".

        There might be a setting in /opt/retropie/configs/megadrive/dgenrc that I'm missing.

        Thanks for the reply!

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          mediamogul Global Moderator @backstander
          last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 17:19

          @backstander

          The DGen feature list doesn't mention Pico Pen support and I suspect mouse support is limited to the 'Sega Mouse'. However, taking into account the RetroArch wiki notation that says PicoDrive was "written having ARM-based handheld devices in mind" and the fact that several pre-compiled binaries exist for various ARM devices on the PicoDrive site, I wonder if it wouldn't be a reasonably simple task of just compiling and running PicoDrive natively.

          RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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            backstander @mediamogul
            last edited by backstander 14 Dec 2016, 22:07

            I wonder if it wouldn't be a reasonably simple task of just compiling and running PicoDrive natively.

            Thanks @mediamogul I got it working!

            Okay so I cheated and found a pre-compiled version of PicoDrive for Raspberry Pi here:
            https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=53061

            Then I extracted it to the emulation directory:
            sudo tar xvzf picodrive.tgz -C /opt/retropie/emulators/

            I added this line to the bottom of the Megadrive emulators list:
            nano /opt/retropie/configs/megadrive/emulators.cfg

            picodrive = "/opt/retropie/emulators/picodrive/PicoDrive -config /opt/retropie/configs/megadrive/picodrive.cfg %ROM%"
            

            (Optional) I added this so my wireless Xbox 360 controller would work with the emulator:
            nano /opt/retropie/configs/megadrive/picodrive.cfg

            binddev = sdl:Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX)
            bind backspace = Fast forward
            bind \xA0 = player1 B
            bind \xA1 = player1 C
            bind \xA2 = player1 A
            bind \xA3 = player1 X
            bind \xA4 = player1 Y
            bind \xA5 = player1 Z
            bind \xA8 = player1 MODE
            bind \xA9 = player1 START
            bind \xAA = Enter Menu
            bind up = player1 UP
            bind down = player1 DOWN
            bind right = player1 RIGHT
            bind left = player1 LEFT
            bind f1 = Save State
            bind f2 = Load State
            bind f3 = Prev Save Slot
            bind f4 = Next Save Slot
            bind f5 = Switch Renderer
            bind f6 = Pico Prev page
            bind f7 = Pico Next page
            bind f8 = Pico Switch input
            

            When you launch the Pico ROM just pick "picodrive" from the Runcommand and after the "game" loads, you have to press F8 on the keyboard to toggle to "Input: Pen on Pad" and then I can use my left Analog stick to move the mouse cursor around and the B button to click on objects. F6 & F7 will flip through the "pages".

            I guess I could have bound the F6/F7/F8 keys to buttons on my controller but I haven't gotten that far yet.

            B M 2 Replies Last reply 14 Dec 2016, 22:36 Reply Quote 1
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              backstander @backstander
              last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 22:36

              I did noticed that PicoDrive is not using my custom /opt/retropie/configs/megadrive/picodrive.cfg but instead using the default config.cfg from the same directory as PicoDrive.

              This is the PicoDrive usage example:

              PicoDrive v1.81 (c) notaz, 2006-2009,2013
              usage: /opt/retropie/emulators/picodrive/PicoDrive [options] [romfile]
              options:
               -config <file>    use specified config file instead of default 'config.cfg'
               -loadstate <num>  if ROM is specified, try loading savestate slot <num>
              

              Does anyone see something I'm missing?

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                mediamogul Global Moderator @backstander
                last edited by mediamogul 14 Dec 2016, 22:40

                @backstander

                Nice work. I might try to compile the latest version and add it later this evening. It's always great when things go this smoothly.

                Does anyone see something I'm missing?

                Unless it's a typo above, it appears you have a return after -config and before your path in the 'emulators.cfg' file. It should all be one line.

                RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

                B 1 Reply Last reply 14 Dec 2016, 22:59 Reply Quote 1
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                  backstander @mediamogul
                  last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 22:59

                  @mediamogul

                  Nice work. I might try to compile the latest version and add it later this evening. It's always great when things go this smoothly.

                  Agreed!

                  Unless it's a typo above, it appears you have a return after -config and before your path in the 'emulators.cfg' file. It should all be one line.

                  Good eye. I've corrected my earlier post but I looked on my Pi and I had it all one line so I guess that wasn't the issue :(

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                    mediamogul Global Moderator @backstander
                    last edited by mediamogul 14 Dec 2016, 23:12

                    @backstander

                    Curiouser and curiouser. Could be a permissions problem perhaps. I have also seen the rare and odd occasion where the software requires the config file to have a particular name. You might try renaming the file and 'emulators.cfg' reference to 'config.cfg', noted as being the default file name in your usage example above.

                    RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

                    B 1 Reply Last reply 15 Dec 2016, 15:44 Reply Quote 1
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                      backstander @mediamogul
                      last edited by backstander 15 Dec 2016, 15:44

                      @mediamogul

                      You might try renaming the file and 'emulators.cfg' reference to 'config.cfg', noted as being the default file name in your usage example above.

                      I tried renaming to 'config.cfg' and I don't think that worked.

                      Really this isn't a big deal. I was just hoping to have all my config files under one roof /opt/retropie/configs/ so they're easy to backup.

                      Now I've got some appropriate games for the little kiddos to play over the holidays!

                      M 1 Reply Last reply 15 Dec 2016, 17:37 Reply Quote 0
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                        mediamogul Global Moderator @backstander
                        last edited by 15 Dec 2016, 17:37

                        @backstander

                        Just keep them away from 'Donkey Kong Jr. Math'. An ape in a diaper has no business teaching arithmetic.

                        RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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