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"New" VICE very buggy

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    windale @BuZz
    last edited by 30 Oct 2016, 20:39

    @BuZz said in "New" VICE very buggy:

    You would need to compile it manually.

    True Drive Emulation was on by default in the previous version btw. You must have changed your config at some point.

    Try removing /opt/retropie/configs/c64/ and re-installing vice if you are having configuration issues. An old configuration may be causing some of your issues.

    I removed the config from that location and reinstalled VICE, when starting it had CRT Emulation on !?!!?!
    I still encountered the same bugs I listed above but I can't pinpoint what options trigger it. I used a clean install of the latest RetroPie 2 days ago BTW on a Pi 2. I give up ! It's really strange how you've had no problems.

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      edmaul69 @BuZz
      last edited by 30 Oct 2016, 20:39

      @BuZz @windale so for me to fix the buffer problem i had to switch sound settings - synchronization method, from "exact" to to "flexible". I think having scanlines on triggered the problem for me possibly. Dont quote me on that.

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        vbs
        last edited by vbs 30 Oct 2016, 22:57

        As far as I remember The sound buffer issue is a CPU problem. Deactivating scan lines and/or switching to a faster SID mode should help.

        Edit:
        Also since you are on rpi2 others on rpi3 might have less Problems due to Performance advantage.

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          BuZz administrators @windale
          last edited by 31 Oct 2016, 15:39

          @windale said in "New" VICE very buggy:

          I removed the config from that location and reinstalled VICE, when starting it had CRT Emulation on !?!!?!
          I still encountered the same bugs I listed above but I can't pinpoint what options trigger it. I used a clean install of the latest RetroPie 2 days ago BTW on a Pi 2. I give up ! It's really strange how you've had no problems.

          Which config did you remove ?

          Did you install from binary or source ? What version does RetroPie-Setup show ?

          CRT emulation was off when I tested from a fresh install so I can only think there is an old config kicking around somewhere.

          what is the output of ls -l ~/.vice from a terminal

          To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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            windale
            last edited by windale 31 Oct 2016, 15:48

            Buzz, can you try this for me please :-

            Delete the config file from /opt/retropie/configs/c64/ and load VICE (without re-installing). It starts with CRT Emulation ON, Double Size and Double Scan (which make it look horrible IMO). Try loading a game and the sound and video are stuttering badly. If you turn the sound OFF in the menu you can still see the video stuttering. If you then turn off Double Size in the video options then the video looks/scrolls perfect but turning the sound back on again stutters the sound and video again.

            I then tried deleting the config and re-installing (from Binary). It now has different options set (CRT Emulation, Double Size and Double Scan are OFF) and it works as it should (and turning True Drive Emulation OFF makes the games load in seconds, and no my numbers aren't wrong). So when deleting the config and not re-installing why does it make this other config that makes it run like crap ?

            Can you please confirm this please and why does this happen ? Thanks. (Pi 2)

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              BuZz administrators
              last edited by BuZz 31 Oct 2016, 15:51

              Yes. With no default config the settings are not optimised for the RPI. Which is why we set up an initial config with the correct settings.

              Don't run it without our default config (unless you are happy to configure it all yourself)

              your sound may be stuttering due to residfp sid emulation being on (if you removed the config) - I also set the fast sid emulation mode by default.

              To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                windale
                last edited by 31 Oct 2016, 15:53

                So that was the answer all along. I wish you had told me that on my first post :).

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                  BuZz administrators
                  last edited by BuZz 31 Oct 2016, 15:54

                  Well, you didn't say anything about removing the configuration. Don't blame this on me :)

                  To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                    windale
                    last edited by 31 Oct 2016, 15:58

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                      DrFreeman
                      last edited by 14 Mar 2017, 07:06

                      Hi All,

                      I had a similar problem when I wanted to save the settings for using Joysticks in vice. And after that all games runs very very fast and no sound was enabled.

                      I tried already deinstallig and rebooting and new installation. But I had the same problem. UNTI: I removied the files from

                      /opt/retropie/configs/c64/

                      After taht and restarting the emu I worked again - god sake!!!

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