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Rant on the current state of the gaming industry and a thank you to RetroPie team

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    Capeman
    last edited by 4 Apr 2017, 20:45

    I bought a Wii U, and i hardly ever play it. Like once in a blue moon...
    I play my retropie for at least 30 minutes a night.

    I would argue i blow the dust off the Wii U way more than i do my NES carts, haha!

    Vector Artist, Designer and Maker of Stuff: Laser Cut Atari / Pixel Theme Bartop

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      lilbud @Capeman
      last edited by 4 Apr 2017, 20:48

      @Capeman Pretty much the only time I play my Wii U is for Breath of the Wild, and only because I don't have the money for a Switch. But until BOTW, it collected dust.

      Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

      Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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        Lyle_JP
        last edited by Lyle_JP 4 May 2017, 05:24 4 Apr 2017, 21:10

        We always seems to have crap computers and consoles when I was a kid (we had a TI-99/4A and an Atari XE, for example), but plenty of friends and family had good stuff (Atari 2600, NES, SMS), and eventually we did get a C64, and I bought a Genesis when I moved out. I played so many 8 bit and 16-bit games back in the day it was insane. Even on the junk consoles, I always owned at least a dozen games.

        Years later, I decided to dip my toe into what gaming was becoming. I bought a PSX right after the PS2 came out for cheap. But I only bought 3 or 4 games for it. The games invariably tried to make use of all 8 buttons plus endless combinations of such that it required you to use the manual as a constant reference for at least the first week of game-play. And they just had to use all 650 MB of the disc too, with endless cutscenes, animations, exposition (most books I read don't have plotting this unnecessarily dense), etc... In short, I never played anything much past a month. The PSX was a total waste of money for me.

        My next purchase (years later) was a PS3. I bought it strictly as a blu-ray player at the time. I bought one or two games but again realized little had changed since the PSX (if anything, it was all much worse). But then I discovered that the Guitar Hero/Rock Band series, with its intuitive controller(s), was a real blast! And there was a nice retro selection in the online store. Unlike the PSX, the PS3 still sees regular service as a home theater device in my system. It's my best DVD player (love the scaling) and it's my fastest blu-ray player, and has an app for every online service as well (in the years before every TV and disc player was "smart", this was a big deal). But it's still not much of a game system compared to the 8 and 16 bit stuff, in terms of pure enjoyment, for me.

        When I got Retropie up and running last spring, I had no idea that gaming would or could become a regular thing for me again. But the games from that era... so many are just such pure joy! Just pick up a controller, learn what the two or three buttons do, then get lost in fun for three hours or so. Isn't that how it should be?

        So, what's the point of all of this? Well, it's a question. Do I love the 8 and 16 bit era games because they are arguably better designed, or is this strictly a case of thinking they're better because they were the games (or style of games) from my childhood? Is it a case of "they really don't make 'em like they used to" or just an old man grumbling "get off my lawn"? As the old man in the equation, I can't really tell.

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          tyreal90 @Lyle_JP
          last edited by tyreal90 4 May 2017, 03:08 5 Apr 2017, 01:53

          @Lyle_JP

          I think that the simplicity of games back in the 80's and 90's make them a better distilled essence than the games of today. They are easier to pick up and easier to put down and they do not take as much advantage of our "addictive pathways" as newer games do. Case and point - Doom - you survive each level and beat the game. Call of Duty - you survive the game but then work on a series of collectables that will keep you engaged for a long time. Final Fantasy - you survive the game and beat it once then done - Skyrim - you have collectable and never ending quests that continue for eternity because there are soo many.....

          @lostless I didn't know about the hacking. That's funny! I have been so disappointed with Nintendo as of late. They could have been another "steam" on consoles offering a large library for any system that could play it and yet they decide to play the pre-reformed MR Scrooge from a Christmas Carol.

          @lilbud
          @drake999

          On the PCmasterrace forum on reddit, some people have been posting pictures of BOTW being played in 1080p and 4k off of a supposed emulator. I was curious as to whether you'd heard of this or whether you'd switch to using a PC for it if you could? I kinda want to pick up the game but I don't want to buy a @#$%ing system for one game.

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            lilbud @tyreal90
            last edited by 5 Apr 2017, 11:00

            @tyreal90

            My computer struggles with GameCube games, I will never be able to play BOTW on it.

            Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

            Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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              tyreal90 @lilbud
              last edited by 5 Apr 2017, 14:30

              @lilbud

              what is your cpu,power supply and graphics card?

              also is this a tower or a laptop?

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                lilbud @tyreal90
                last edited by 5 Apr 2017, 15:06

                @tyreal90 AMD-A6-5200 apu, 12 gb of ram. Integrated graphics. it is a laptop

                Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

                Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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                  ABrugsch
                  last edited by 5 Apr 2017, 15:22

                  I agree with this rant. I've seen it coming for a long while and has been a major reason why the last console I bought was a Wii.
                  every time I hear about someone waiting 3 hours to play something or other because updates, I just die a little more inside but then remember how many updates a SNES cartridge needs. sure I have a steam account which means those games are beholden to the servers remaining up, but for almost all of them (mainly humble bundle games with a few notable exceptions - HL2, Portal 1&2) I can download an installer for each one of them and store that safely (LOL!) somewhere.

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                    tyreal90 @lilbud
                    last edited by 5 Apr 2017, 15:34

                    @lilbud

                    Darn. I just upgraded my graphics card and I have a spare 7950 lying around. I have learned to loathe integrated graphics over the years. Well at least it is AMD integrated graphics.

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                      tyreal90 @ABrugsch
                      last edited by tyreal90 4 Jun 2017, 13:21 5 Apr 2017, 15:38

                      @ABrugsch

                      I always search for a game first on GOG (game of games) and then humble bundle and then Steam in that exact order for that exact reason that I want as little DRM/server/update BS with the game as possible so I couldn't agree more with you!

                      *edit I've been corrected it is good ol games haha

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                        lilbud @tyreal90
                        last edited by 5 Apr 2017, 16:30

                        @tyreal90 There are games that should NOT be able to run on my computer, but through the magic of witchcraft, they run.

                        Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

                        Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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                          edmaul69 @tyreal90
                          last edited by edmaul69 4 May 2017, 21:33 5 Apr 2017, 20:32

                          @tyreal90 i purchased a fairly new game called retro city rampage. I purchased a steam copy, gog copy, floppy disk ms-dos version and the psp/vita/ps3/ps4 version. I have a steam code that i have not used. With it you get the windows/linux/mac/ms-dos version if you want it. I have the ms-dos version and the psp versions working on my pi. If you are interested please let me know. If you sign up to the atariage.com forums, i can send you the code through there.

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                            mediamogul Global Moderator @edmaul69
                            last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 00:42

                            @edmaul69

                            ms-dos version and the psp versions working on my pi.

                            How well does the PSP version run?

                            RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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                              edmaul69 @mediamogul
                              last edited by edmaul69 4 Jun 2017, 02:20 6 Apr 2017, 01:18

                              @mediamogul perfect. I have had it on my psp for a quite a while and didnt think of testing it on the pi. I had to find one online since they need to be cracked to play on the pi and tested it. It works great. And since its a better version than the dos version and runs better than the dos version i was happy.

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                                lilbud @edmaul69
                                last edited by lilbud 4 Jun 2017, 02:51 6 Apr 2017, 01:51

                                @edmaul69 I'm interested in the code, my name on the forum is lilbud

                                Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

                                Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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                                  tyreal90 @edmaul69
                                  last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 02:19

                                  @edmaul69

                                  I just created a login. my un is tyreal90. pm me! i have an idea.

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                                    edmaul69 @lilbud
                                    last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 02:20

                                    @lilbud i tried to send you a pm but it wont let me send it. Did you verify your account? If yes then you need to make a post or two.

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                                      edmaul69 @tyreal90
                                      last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 02:21

                                      @tyreal90 i will try. Did you verify your account?

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                                        edmaul69 @tyreal90
                                        last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 02:23

                                        @tyreal90 can you make a post or two? I need it so i can send you a message

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                                          tyreal90
                                          last edited by tyreal90 4 Jun 2017, 03:23 6 Apr 2017, 02:23

                                          @edmaul69

                                          I verified account but it says that chat needs 100 posts. Is that the function you are looking to use?

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