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    • CodeDrawerC
      CodeDrawer
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      @sirhenrythe5th Do you know how much an N64 costs?

      http://www.ebay.com/sch/NTSC-U-C-US-Canda-Nintendo-64-Video-Game-Consoles/139971/bn_27304491/i.html

      N64 emulation is the next step :)

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      • FruitybitF
        Fruitybit
        last edited by

        I doubt it'll be anytime soon, but perhaps there's a more intriguing pi development in the making;

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39934506

        I wonder if it will have wifi?!

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        • Lyle_JPL
          Lyle_JP @lilbud
          last edited by

          @lilbud I don't see on-card storage ever happening.

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            Trailjacker
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            Wasn't there an official statement a while back stating the Pi 3 would have at least a 3 year life before another would be released? If that's the case I could see a near 2Ghz processor and 2 GB of RAM. I don't see on-board storage being a thing mainly because of keeping the cost at or near the $35 price point. I'd almost wish they would come out with a premium Pi for $50 that has significantly better specs but it's fun to see what can be done with what they give us. I'd think they would eventually max out tech at that price point if they don't slow down releases.

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            • glennlakeG
              glennlake
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              I wonder if they do this will they be pulling away from there original plan to get computers that are cheep into the hands of kids. But I am all for an upgrade for our use and would like to see a smaller and more powerful board.

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              • CodeDrawerC
                CodeDrawer
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                @Trailjacker @glennlake You are right glen, and I would like to see a better board for 50$... but I want to see much more then anything, is a 64 bit kernel.

                N64 emulation is the next step :)

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                • sirhenrythe5thS
                  sirhenrythe5th @CodeDrawer
                  last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                  @CodeDrawer i payed 70 Euros for a purple one in a mint condition, like new.
                  Got it also from ebay from a german seller.
                  In combination with the everdrive it was indeed one of the best investments since i am a gamer (31 years by now ☺).

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                  • CodeDrawerC
                    CodeDrawer
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                    @sirhenrythe5th yeah shipping I have to consider... it will cost more then the product I buy most of the time. I had 18$ of snes remotes, and shipping made it 54$

                    N64 emulation is the next step :)

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                    • sirhenrythe5thS
                      sirhenrythe5th @CodeDrawer
                      last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                      @CodeDrawer ic! Of course: thats an issue 😔

                      I realize that prices for retro games and systems are very different between europe and overseas.
                      On the other handside i was in paradise when i was on a fleemarket in Pennsylvania in 2009.
                      Sega Saturn-Games for 1$!, you pay a lot more for them here in europe!

                      Maybe you keep the idea of a real N64+Everdrive in mind for the furure - it is really worth the money for everyone who loves the N64/Ultra64 System. 👍😎

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                      • CodeDrawerC
                        CodeDrawer
                        last edited by

                        OK one last thing, I got a 1 cent nes cartridge for Canadian French, and I thought why not! So I got it, shipping: 45$

                        N64 emulation is the next step :)

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                        • sirhenrythe5thS
                          sirhenrythe5th @CodeDrawer
                          last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                          @CodeDrawer OMFG! 😱

                          Ok, one of my experiences: preordered a MortalKombat-Tournament-Stick and payed about 80$ for shipping and taxes (i live in germany btw).
                          All together i paid about 500$.

                          Two years later i got one (brand new but without the bundled PS3-Disc of MK9) via ebay from France for 35 Euros 😲. So maybe us gamers are in the permanent danger to pay too much for our beloved hobby ☺

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                          • CodeDrawerC
                            CodeDrawer
                            last edited by

                            @sirhenrythe5th I live in canada but got the cartridge from germany. Lets put it this way, use free roms if possible.

                            N64 emulation is the next step :)

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                            • sirhenrythe5thS
                              sirhenrythe5th @CodeDrawer
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                              @CodeDrawer 👍😊

                              Well spoken!!
                              Kind regards to Canada! ☺

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                              • CodeDrawerC
                                CodeDrawer
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                                @sirhenrythe5th Yeah, but it takes away from the retro feel. But I have a broken NES and I'll rip the guts out and pi it up! As seen in one of my posts. You can get broken consoles for pretty cheap, but that was just my old one.

                                If it works out, I'll make a post with pictures of the build.

                                N64 emulation is the next step :)

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                                • CapemanC
                                  Capeman
                                  last edited by Capeman

                                  I'll throw in my bet.

                                  I'm betting the 4 will be a disappointment, the foundation is heavily into keeping the hardware at $35 and they're pushing that now. There may be a slight bump in processor speed or a bit more RAM, but i'm definitely not predicting a bump comparible to the pi-2 to pi-3 transition, which was significant and game changing.

                                  My money is on an incremental bump that focuses on speeding up the wired and wireless networking, bluetooth version and maybe some impovements to the I/O, faster sd card reading, etc.

                                  I'm betting the Pi 4 will still lag at running PPSSPP.

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                                    jamesbeat @Eldrethor
                                    last edited by jamesbeat

                                    @Eldrethor said in Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!:

                                    @itsnitro The problems with N64 emulation are mostly at the software level and not so much at the hardware level, so throwing extra horsepower at it might not actually make emulation all that much better, but the Pi 3 runs PSX games surprisingly smooth for a $35 computer, even without overclocking. That and graphically, I think PSX games look even crisper emulated on a Pi 3 than on a PS2 or PS3.

                                    I threw extra horsepower at it by using the x86 version on an old Core 2 Duo machine.

                                    It is a night and day difference.

                                    I'm not going to say any more than that, because last time I mentioned this I had a bunch of people pile on and tell me that N64 is fine on the Pi3 etc etc.

                                    I only suggest that you try installing Retropie on a PC and try it out for yourself.

                                    PSX runs flawlessly with all the games I have tried.

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                                    • dankcushionsD
                                      dankcushions Global Moderator @jamesbeat
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                                      @jamesbeat said in Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!:

                                      @Eldrethor said in Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!:

                                      @itsnitro The problems with N64 emulation are mostly at the software level and not so much at the hardware level, so throwing extra horsepower at it might not actually make emulation all that much better, but the Pi 3 runs PSX games surprisingly smooth for a $35 computer, even without overclocking. That and graphically, I think PSX games look even crisper emulated on a Pi 3 than on a PS2 or PS3.

                                      I threw extra horsepower at it by using the x86 version on an old Core 2 Duo machine.

                                      It is a night and day difference.

                                      I'm not going to say any more than that, because last time I mentioned this I had a bunch of people pile on and tell me that N64 is fine on the Pi3 etc etc.

                                      no, you didn't.

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                                      • FruitybitF
                                        Fruitybit
                                        last edited by Fruitybit

                                        So, I need to understand what it means when the chip is described as having four layers. Is this the 'four cores' that defines a pi3?

                                        Let's say, just for example, I have a pi3 on my counter at work, and a customer (regular and on good speaking terms with) says something along the lines of
                                        "That's a pi, I work for their development. We're experimenting with a six layer chip rather than the four layer version now"
                                        At which point I would, had this conversation happened, have replied something like
                                        "It's rather important to me that you discuss this further with me promptly sir."
                                        After which, noting my apparent marginal knowledge and interest, this hypothetical customer becomes rather coy and refuses to be drawn further on the subject.

                                        Am I to infer something from this theoretical conversation? Which, in that very same theory could well have gone on marginally longer than my above (purely of course) imagined transcript.

                                        (Redactions and theorem due to promises made, take from it what you may)

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                                        • glennlakeG
                                          glennlake
                                          last edited by

                                          I think this needs to be looked at from a different perspective. We are looking for a faster or smoother running game experience on the Raspberry Pi. I have been told that RetroPie only run on one core of whatever Pi is used. For it to run better the software, not the hardware needs to be upgraded to make use of the multi cores of the Pi 3

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                                          • FruitybitF
                                            Fruitybit @glennlake
                                            last edited by

                                            @glennlake Genuinely, I couldn't tell you what it means or how it could affect Retropie. I know my pi3 runs games better and faster than my pi zero, but I don't know how it works. I was replying to speculations about a pi4, not emulationstation2 or Retropie 8.4.18.

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