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    Themes not loading fully?

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    • pjftP
      pjft
      last edited by pjft

      I'm shocked with the frequency of these reports now.

      The font bit in the menu scares me a bit, as that should be the exact same font as the rest. The fact that that's messed up doesn't inspire me any confidence:/

      Also, did you perform an update to all packages, including kernel? There was another thread just a few days ago by @hansolo77 that seemed to have been related to a kernel / firmware update. That scares me.

      If you revert your EmulationStation to a few days prior, does that still happen? I imagine you won't know how to do that manually, so if that's the case let me know and we'll try to figure something out.

      It will involve a bit of messing with ssh/the terminal.

      Also, you wouldn't be overclocked per chance?

      Best.

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      • pjftP
        pjft @A Former User
        last edited by

        @LiveFastCyYoung also, on ssh, run

        sudo vcdbg reloc
        

        To see available GPU memory. If you can run that immediately after starting ES and then after one of the box art fails to load it'd be great.

        Paste the results of both over at pastebin or something.

        I'm starting to suspect there may be something going wrong with releasing GPU texture memory.

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        • AliendonA
          Aliendon @pjft
          last edited by

          @pjft Yes i completely did an update for all packages and kernel. i will try and update the themes tomorrow. i also noticed it mostly messes up when i scroll through systems or game lists fast but as soon as i start a game and exit the game the theme is back to normal until i scroll through system or game lists fast again, i think it might just be i have to much space used up on my thumb drive and scrolling to fast the pi is having trouble getting all the information off of the drive.

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          • pjftP
            pjft @Aliendon
            last edited by

            @Aliendon oh. Hm. I'd recommend reducing VRAM then - it should be around 100, but if your theme is too big I wouldn't be shocked if you go to 90 or 80.

            Didn't this happen in previous versions, though? If you can make a movie of what's happening it'd be very much appreciated!

            Thanks.

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            • ?
              A Former User @Aliendon
              last edited by

              @Aliendon it's definitely not anything to do with SD card space. As I mentioned, I'm booting from a 1TB PiDrive and am having the same exact issues.

              Had a couple job interviews yesterday so wasn't able to SSH in. Will get to it sometime today. Thanks everyone.

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              • pjftP
                pjft @A Former User
                last edited by

                @LiveFastCyYoung No biggie - hope they went well. Those, after all, are more important :)

                Let us know what happens when you run these commands. I might end up suggesting/asking to install an older kernel version to see if the situation is better.

                Actually, though, this seems common when installing from Berryboot. Found this old issue. Maybe the GPU split isn't set by default.

                Do increase the memory split in /boot/config.txt , ideally 256M for GPU would be a good starting point for the Pi3. See https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Memory-Split and/or just add gpu_mem=256to your config.txt file.

                I'm curious, though: were you using this setup in the past and had no problems before the upgrade, was that it?

                Best.

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                • ?
                  A Former User
                  last edited by A Former User

                  My memory split was already set to the default of 256M. I am not overclocked.

                  First things first, I updated the Retropie Setup Script and updated everything from binary before I started. I also uninstalled and reinstalled the theme I was using, even though it had been happening on other themes as well.

                  I SSH'd in and ran the commands, fresh off of a system reboot. Here are the results of both: free -h, sudo vcdbg reloc

                  https://pastebin.com/zRfS6Vf8

                  I was using this setup in the past and had no problems.

                  Another new problem I've run into is sometimes when scrolling between systems, it'll get stuck and stutter back and forth very quickly. This problem is much more rare though. The main issue happens every time. I will try and get a video of that as well.

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                  • pjftP
                    pjft @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @LiveFastCyYoung so, two things jump straight to me when reading those logs. The first is that you have no GPU memory available from just loading EmulationStation - you see the first few lines saying largest few block 352 bytes! If you want a quick, patchy fix, reduce the VRAM to 50, restart EmulationStation, and see if it works or not, and then if it loads the theme successfully and you still have problems, try reducing slowly, restarting again and see how it goes. You will get to a point where the theme won't load at all because you are allowing to little memory for it, but until you get there see what works.

                    The second thing, and a more obvious observation, is that you do not have the right memory split. You can tell that easily from looking at the log for the free command. It states total memory is 858, which means that you have around 160mb allocated to the GPU, give or take (1024 - 858 - 16 MB of potentially reserved memory, unless you have tweaked your config file).

                    Maybe the update messed up that setting or something, but I'd strongly recommend setting the split again, and confirming that the free command shows something closer to 768 total memory. If you struggle with this, do send over your config.txt file via pastebin.

                    The third recommendation is also to try a lighter theme - namely Carbon - on top of all of this.

                    Hope these help, let us know your findings.

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                      A Former User @pjft
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                      @pjft I'm very confused with the memory split issue. My config.txt in the boot folder is the following...

                      gpu_mem_256=128
                      gpu_mem_512=256
                      gpu_mem_1024=256
                      overscan_scale=1

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                      • pjftP
                        pjft @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @LiveFastCyYoung can you send over the full contents, so we see if there's anything overriding it per chance?

                        Thanks.

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                          A Former User @pjft
                          last edited by

                          @pjft The full contents of /boot/config.txt?

                          That is the full content. There are no other lines in the file.

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                          • pjftP
                            pjft @A Former User
                            last edited by

                            @LiveFastCyYoung ....Oh. That's, err, weird?

                            Anyway, try explicitly adding

                            gpu_mem=256

                            To it. Then restart and see what free returns.

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                              A Former User @pjft
                              last edited by

                              @pjft After adding that line to the config file...

                              https://pastebin.com/NZHULBM5

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                              • pjftP
                                pjft @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @LiveFastCyYoung still the same, interesting. I don't know enough about BerryBoot, I suppose we need to look into it.

                                What if you make it 512 and run it again?

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User @pjft
                                  last edited by

                                  @pjft

                                  So I ended up solving this and it was completely stupid on my part.

                                  The memory split was absolutely messed up. I have been having memory problems for quite sometime and it's caused more than this issue: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/10467/solved-error-updating-es-from-source

                                  So, as I said, everything is on the PiDrive for this build. HOWEVER, it is Berryboot and does boot from the SD card. So this whole time, I have been updating the /boot/config.txt on the PiDrive but I should have been updating the config.txt on the SD card. It's the only thing the SD card is used for. The booting up process.

                                  So that config.txt file had gpu_mem=16. OBVIOUSLY an issue. I switched that one to 256 and it's running great now. I haven't tried but I'd imagine I could update ES from source now too.

                                  Why this happened? Who knows. But I think it'd be smart to put a reminder in a guide somewhere to look for the config.txt on the SD card as opposed to the hard drive.

                                  Thanks everyone for their help! :)

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                                  • pjftP
                                    pjft @A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    @LiveFastCyYoung Glad to hear that was sorted. 160 - or 16 - would have certainly been a problem.

                                    I doubt that would have impacted ES from source, though, as this is just about GPU memory, but I don't know much - maybe you have other things there that are impacting the overall memory.

                                    Glad this is sorted now.

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