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vice says press play on tape and nothing happens

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    edmaul69 @maxbeanz
    last edited by 14 Jul 2017, 21:34

    @maxbeanz i actually dont mind not using warp. The fact that i have to wait for the game to load kinda gives me a sense of realism. I use original controllers for my systems too so i get the authentic feel of using a real machine.

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      edmaul69 @maxbeanz
      last edited by 15 Jul 2017, 05:12

      @maxbeanz you say warp is set by default on loading? Since the retroarch gui lets you change the sid, i tested each one from a fresh selecting of a disk game and from the time the blue screen pops up to the time it changes to flipping color screen, both fast sid's were 5 seconds faster than the others, so im not sure what the the slow loading issue is?

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        AliBengali @maxbeanz
        last edited by AliBengali 15 Jul 2017, 09:06

        Good morning @maxbeanz - yes - i don't understand it too. Everything is fine - i am running amiberry/whdload too- its running great. But my vice dont like tapes (these are zip's from
        Gamebase64 v15). But i'll try to install binary again. I changed some options in vice. I read it before - changing much settings is no good idea with vice like you mentioned, @mediamogul

        Anyway- yesterday i bought a logitech wireless keyboard with touchpad. This was planned long time before ... So its more comfortable to use retropie/c64 or lr-vice or just play some old sierra games like Space Quest 1&2. But ill try the hint from you @edmaul69 - to controll the gui via controller.

        Have fun, all together!

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          A Former User @edmaul69
          last edited by 15 Jul 2017, 16:16

          @edmaul69 said in vice says press play on tape and nothing happens:

          @maxbeanz i actually dont mind not using warp. The fact that i have to wait for the game to load kinda gives me a sense of realism.

          I remember some games on Atari & C64 took up to 30 minutes to load from tape. Spectrum was better - 5 minutes (without turbo gadgets), but still. I'm all up for realism but this is where I draw the line :)

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            edmaul69 @A Former User
            last edited by edmaul69 16 Jul 2017, 02:57

            @arkive well that is a bit excessive. So on lr-vice with the fast sid's it takes 1:20 to load a disk. That isnt too bad. Need to test tape time

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              edmaul69
              last edited by edmaul69 16 Jul 2017, 03:03

              About the same for tapes

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                AliBengali @edmaul69
                last edited by 16 Jul 2017, 08:30

                @edmaul69 said in vice says press play on tape and nothing happens:

                @alibengali if you go into the retroarch gui and go into quick menu options and change controller0 type from keyboard to joystick it then allows you to enter vice menu and vice keyboard from a controller. also one of the controller buttons makes your analog the mouse so you can control everything with your controller now.

                Its working! Thank you. I never touched anything in Retroarch - i was always scared about these lot of options... and scared to destroy my whole good running retropie 4.2 Setup). I bet i should read some more about how it all works together (Emulationstation, Retroarch, Emulators) to understand that. Perhaps then i will find the Problem why "my vice" dont like Tape Images. Perhaps there's something to edit (eg the Script responsible for starting vice with parameters). But perhaps the configuration of vice itself..... and not retroarch....

                Update:
                In Vice i see the t64 File in the temporary dir (the t64-file is original stored in zip)- so the automatic unzipping process is running fine.

                In the zip-file there is the image t64 and the version.nfo.
                But the d64 files are working great. The d64 are stored in zip, too (d64 and version.nfo).
                Will have a look this evening (still not at home)..... like i wrote: try to install vice binaries again.

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                  A Former User
                  last edited by 16 Jul 2017, 08:32

                  The worst offenders on C64 were the tape versions of disk games, but also some tape-only curiosities. Here are some bad un's: http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38423

                  I didn't have a disk drive back in the day, yet of course still wanted to play big games like Pirates! or Defender Of The Crown. Used to do my homework while waiting...

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                    AliBengali @A Former User
                    last edited by 16 Jul 2017, 08:40

                    @arkive said in vice says press play on tape and nothing happens:

                    Used to do my homework while waiting...

                    😆

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                      maxbeanz @edmaul69
                      last edited by maxbeanz 16 Jul 2017, 09:35

                      @edmaul69 Just out of interest, did you do a comparison with normal vice to check the speed differences ? It doesn't take anywhere near 1:20 to load a disk. As I said before, vice/lr-vice automatically sets Warp mode ON when booting but because lr-vice is set to 6581 Fast it loads even slower than normal. If you turn on the Status Bar in the lr-vice options (F10) you can see. (Maybe the SID modes aren't implemented correctly).

                      For example :-

                      'Mayhem in Monsterland' in 'lr-vice' takes 2 minutes !! to get to the cracktro screen.

                      In regular 'vice' it takes 27 Seconds.

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                        A Former User
                        last edited by A Former User 16 Jul 2017, 13:39

                        A basic question: how do I actually map Vice functions to a joypad? (wired Dualshock 3). At the moment "emu menu" is mapped to L3, I'd like to change it.

                        And not so basic question: anybody used it with a CRT? On mine - with Pi2SCART- it doesn't look too good, it's kinda fuzzy. Pixels definitely not 1:1. (I switched off the CRT filters in the options)

                        Also, when I set "max resolution limit" in vid options to Fixed, pixels become 1:1, but the display is scaled improperly (black bars at top and bottom, left & right goes bit off screen). I tired adjusting other vid options but to no avail,

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                          AliBengali @A Former User
                          last edited by 16 Jul 2017, 17:17

                          @arkive said in vice says press play on tape and nothing happens:

                          A basic question: how do I actually map Vice functions to a joypad? (wired Dualshock 3). At the moment "emu menu" is mapped to L3, I'd like to change it.

                          you just go to the menu function in menu and press "m" on keyboard.
                          Now you have to press a key to bind this key to the function.

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                            AliBengali @AliBengali
                            last edited by 16 Jul 2017, 18:51

                            ****** SOLVED: *******
                            In Vice i used "reset settings to defaults" and now Tape-Images are loading!
                            But i am afraid to say the "save settings" option is not really reliable/stable (i can "save" changes of my settings - but at the next start the changes are gone... Have to check that now....

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