FBA vs. MAME
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@cosmo0 said in FBA vs. MAME:
yeah it looks like MAME2003 doesn't have KOF2003/2003, Metal Slug 4/5, Samurai Shodown 5, and SNK vs Capcom (among a bunch of prototypes, bootlegs and demos),
Some of these are now in mame2003-plus. Testers very welcome.
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@andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:
I don't understand that you say these games are missing on the lists. My lists above contain many of these games, and they're based on @Pussyfoot 's lists.
I didn't see your lists... :( I only saw UDB23 Excel file...
Thanks, I'll make sure to update my list for any missing game :)
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@thelostsoul said in FBA vs. MAME:
@cosmo0 my bad, I forgot what about this thread was. I'm just curious. how do you guys test both versions and determine which works better?
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@thelostsoul said in FBA vs. MAME:
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mame2003 has has sound timing update fixes please re check any games that the was issues with on the sound sound speed . Mame2003+ will have the right tempo set as for robocop and other games
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So, new list for still-missing classics, based on the lists found here:
mame: https://pastebin.com/2UTySn6L
fba: https://pastebin.com/tUMb5CsR
advancemame: https://pastebin.com/2eaqNxGFI will try to test these games.
@thelostsoul : I have no idea how I'll declare one emulator the best one. I'm guessing it's a matter of speed and bugs first, then personal preference.rom title 720 720 Degrees (rev 4) 1943kai 1943 Kai: Midway Kaisen (Japan) airwolf Airwolf arknoid2 Arkanoid - Revenge of DOH (World) bionicc Bionic Commando (Euro) bublbobl Bubble Bobble (Japan, Ver 0.1) fantzn2 Fantasy Zone II - The Tears of Opa-Opa (MC-8123, 317-0057) gng Ghosts'n Goblins (World? set 1) gradius4 Gradius IV: Fukkatsu (ver JAC) gt2k Golden Tee 2K (v1.00) invadpt2 Space Invaders Part II (Taito) jojoba JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future / JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Mirai e no Isan (Japan 990927) marble Marble Madness (set 1) mk4 Mortal Kombat 4 (version 3.0) mshu Marvel Super Heroes (951024 USA) nbapbp NBA Play By Play (ver JAA) offroad Ironman Ivan Stewart's Super Off-Road orunners OutRunners (World) pbobble4 Puzzle Bobble 4 (Ver 2.04O 1997/12/19) polepos Pole Position (World) polepos2 Pole Position II (Japan) rampart Rampart (Trackball) rbtapper Tapper (Root Beer) roadblst Road Blasters (upright, rev 4) rtype R-Type (World) sf2 Street Fighter II - The World Warrior (910522 etc) sf2ce Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition (street fighter 2' 920513 etc) tron Tron (8/9) turbo Turbo (program 1513-1515) vanguard Vanguard (SNK) wbml Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Japan New Ver., MC-8123, 317-0043) xevious Xevious (Namco) -
Edit: Figured it out. I was using a split set instead of non-merged.
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@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:
vspu.zip from FBA 0.2.97.42 does not work in lr-fbalpha.
The DAT file for .43 is available; have you checked the ROM with it ?
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@udb23 I edited my post once I figured out it was because I grabbed it out of a split set.
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Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?
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@sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.
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@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:
Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?
Please feel free to report the issue with Darius Gaiden in mame2003's github repository if you like. I don't think I've seen that submitted as an issue and it may be possible to fix by backporting from a later mame version.
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@pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:
Also, where is the config to identify which games I am using MAME 2010? I know the Rampage games need 2010.
I put all of my roms in the arcade folder and use 2003, 2010, and fba to run them. I found that the emulators.cfg file under configs/all contains the info on which emulator is being used for which particualr rom if it is anything other than the default for that folder.
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@barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:
@sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.
In the text files linked in this thread, it's listed as best in fb alpha, so that needs to be updated.
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I am using mame 2003 at the moment but some games on FBA. I can say FBA is actually a better emulator if you put in accuracy I don't remember what the setting it called. Thou you kinda need your pi overclocked quite a bit for neogeo games and down to run good.
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@andershp There was some changes to the gyruss mcu (music core unit) with the new release, let me know if it fixes your "fuzzy" sound issue. The hiscore seems to work properly too.
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Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.
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@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:
Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.
No, you just didn't turn on the speedhack in dipswitches.
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arcade_nbbatmanu = "lr-mame2003"should bearcade_nbbatman = "lr-mame2003"@barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:
@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:
Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.
No, you just didn't turn on the speedhack in dipswitches.
Ah, got it. Works much better now, thanks!
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I have tested my list under FBA and MAME 2003. I haven't tested under Advance MAME, because I don't have a keyboard, so I can't setup the controls.
I have updated my lists accordingly. I used FBA as "best" as long as it didn't have obvious problems (slowdowns or crashes). I'm assuming the games that don't work properly (or at all) in either FBA or MAME2003 probably work on AdvanceMAME.
name fba mame2003 1943kai ok - 720 - ok airwolf ok ok arknoid2 way too sensitive a bit too sensitive, not quite playable bionicc ok ok bublbobl ok ok fantzn2 - black screen at launch gng ok ok gt2k - - gradius4 - - offroad - ok jojoba ok - marble - ok mshu ok ok mk4 - so slow it makes the system unresponsive nbapbp - - orunners - broken display, screen stuck on top left polepos - ok polepos2 - ok pbobble4 parent crashes - pbobble4u is slow ok rtype ok ok rampart - ok ramprt2p - ok roadblst - ok invadpt2 - ok sf2 ok ok sf2ce ok ok rbtapper - stuck on system check, makes the sytem unresponsive tron - no control is set up, not even credit turbo - ok vanguard - ok wbml ok ok xevious - ok -
tron and rbtapper work on mame2003 you need to update to a later version the was an issue with bally and input on some other games. That has been addressed already.
One side effect is the dip switch setting from the buged games that were started arent set right the easiest solution is to delete everything in the cfg dir accept for default.cfg or delete the rbtapper.cfg and tron.cfg these games do work. I dont have a list of them all but rbtapper can be fixed from the tab menu if you want to do it the hard way
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