FBA vs. MAME
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@cosmo0 I tested many of these games and have them running here. But I don't know when a game is fully tested to be sure its working. Did you see the compatibility Lists from Documentation?
https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Arcade/
Here direct links to the lists
Mame2003:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LP1MELCvcxu7TfiowF_0ZuvRVEMqlfQyTVetnOJvuJc/edit?usp=sharing
FBA:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GaqIIoiWbzKHwZ52S2xCSDQXILo81Ls1mHK6czKGAtM/edit?usp=sharing -
@cosmo0 said in FBA vs. MAME:
Can we just say NeoGeo games are better with FBA "by default" ? Or is it more case-by-case ?
i would guess that both mame2003 and fba do neogeo perfectly, but fba supports the full catalog plus hacks (i believe mame2003 doesn't have all the KOF games, for example), so i just use that.
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@thelostsoul I thought this thread was about "best system", not "working system" ? For games that work on both FBA and MAME, to determine which one has the best emulation ?
Because if it's just to list games that work in one but not the other, I already have these: games working in FBA but not MAME2003 and games working in MAME2003 but not FBA.@dankcushions yeah it looks like MAME2003 doesn't have KOF2003/2003, Metal Slug 4/5, Samurai Shodown 5, and SNK vs Capcom (among a bunch of prototypes, bootlegs and demos), but MAME2003 has a very small number of clones that FBA doesn't.
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@cosmo0 my bad, I forgot what about this thread was. I'm just curious. how do you guys test both versions and determine which works better?
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@cosmo0 Neogeo, cps1-2 are best on lr-fbalpha. I'm not sure if the minor sound bugs in Kizuna Encounter and maybe others were ever fixed in lr-fbalpha2012 but I retired my pi2 to bother with that older emulator.
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rtype.zip works (for me, at least - see 'discussion' earlier) best in mame2003.
tapper.zip (Budweiser version - the one and only) works best in mame2010. In fact, it's the only version I ever got working.I don't understand that you say these games are missing on the lists. My lists above contain many of these games, and they're based on @Pussyfoot 's lists.
I also use fba generally for NeoGeo games. It just seems to work all the way for me.
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I remember reading fba was the recommended neogeo emulator for speedrun, i guess it means it is supposed to be the most accurate for neogeo.
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@andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:
tapper.zip (Budweiser version - the one and only) works best in mame2010.
All Bally Midway MCR System titles, including 'Tapper', should now be fully functional through lr-mame2003 as well thanks to this recent update. AdvanceMAME will run them as well. I love 'Tapper'. It makes the player deal with multitasking in such a fun and addictive way that it almost feels like a falling block puzzle game.
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@cosmo0 said in FBA vs. MAME:
yeah it looks like MAME2003 doesn't have KOF2003/2003, Metal Slug 4/5, Samurai Shodown 5, and SNK vs Capcom (among a bunch of prototypes, bootlegs and demos),
Some of these are now in mame2003-plus. Testers very welcome.
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@andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:
I don't understand that you say these games are missing on the lists. My lists above contain many of these games, and they're based on @Pussyfoot 's lists.
I didn't see your lists... :( I only saw UDB23 Excel file...
Thanks, I'll make sure to update my list for any missing game :)
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@thelostsoul said in FBA vs. MAME:
@cosmo0 my bad, I forgot what about this thread was. I'm just curious. how do you guys test both versions and determine which works better?
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@thelostsoul said in FBA vs. MAME:
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mame2003 has has sound timing update fixes please re check any games that the was issues with on the sound sound speed . Mame2003+ will have the right tempo set as for robocop and other games
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So, new list for still-missing classics, based on the lists found here:
mame: https://pastebin.com/2UTySn6L
fba: https://pastebin.com/tUMb5CsR
advancemame: https://pastebin.com/2eaqNxGFI will try to test these games.
@thelostsoul : I have no idea how I'll declare one emulator the best one. I'm guessing it's a matter of speed and bugs first, then personal preference.rom title 720 720 Degrees (rev 4) 1943kai 1943 Kai: Midway Kaisen (Japan) airwolf Airwolf arknoid2 Arkanoid - Revenge of DOH (World) bionicc Bionic Commando (Euro) bublbobl Bubble Bobble (Japan, Ver 0.1) fantzn2 Fantasy Zone II - The Tears of Opa-Opa (MC-8123, 317-0057) gng Ghosts'n Goblins (World? set 1) gradius4 Gradius IV: Fukkatsu (ver JAC) gt2k Golden Tee 2K (v1.00) invadpt2 Space Invaders Part II (Taito) jojoba JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future / JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Mirai e no Isan (Japan 990927) marble Marble Madness (set 1) mk4 Mortal Kombat 4 (version 3.0) mshu Marvel Super Heroes (951024 USA) nbapbp NBA Play By Play (ver JAA) offroad Ironman Ivan Stewart's Super Off-Road orunners OutRunners (World) pbobble4 Puzzle Bobble 4 (Ver 2.04O 1997/12/19) polepos Pole Position (World) polepos2 Pole Position II (Japan) rampart Rampart (Trackball) rbtapper Tapper (Root Beer) roadblst Road Blasters (upright, rev 4) rtype R-Type (World) sf2 Street Fighter II - The World Warrior (910522 etc) sf2ce Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition (street fighter 2' 920513 etc) tron Tron (8/9) turbo Turbo (program 1513-1515) vanguard Vanguard (SNK) wbml Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Japan New Ver., MC-8123, 317-0043) xevious Xevious (Namco) -
Edit: Figured it out. I was using a split set instead of non-merged.
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@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:
vspu.zip from FBA 0.2.97.42 does not work in lr-fbalpha.
The DAT file for .43 is available; have you checked the ROM with it ?
.43 FBA release notes mention that ROMs have been synced with newer Mame sets. -
@udb23 I edited my post once I figured out it was because I grabbed it out of a split set.
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Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?
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@sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.
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@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:
Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?
Please feel free to report the issue with Darius Gaiden in mame2003's github repository if you like. I don't think I've seen that submitted as an issue and it may be possible to fix by backporting from a later mame version.
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@pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:
Also, where is the config to identify which games I am using MAME 2010? I know the Rampage games need 2010.
I put all of my roms in the arcade folder and use 2003, 2010, and fba to run them. I found that the emulators.cfg file under configs/all contains the info on which emulator is being used for which particualr rom if it is anything other than the default for that folder.
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