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    MAME ROW #61 - Willow

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    • UDb23U
      UDb23
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      Soldam looks based on the classic Reversi (aka Othello) board game.
      Could be interesting to compete on a puzzle game vs usual platform and Shmups.

      Note: it's the successor to Rodland, a nice platformer ;-)

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      • pjftP
        pjft @UDb23
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        @udb23 now you blew my mind. I love Rodland, but I certainly didn't expect this to have any relation to it!

        Watching the video, it still looks way too complicated and slow though:/

        In terms of puzzle games, Puyo Puyo showed up for MAME ROW earlier in the year, and it was a blast!

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        • UDb23U
          UDb23 @pjft
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          @pjft It seems SOLDAM was quite popular at that time.
          In september 2017 a new version was published for Nintendo Switch.

          Never played it before, will try it (arcade, not switch) to find out if it's fun or not.

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          • GtBFilmsG
            GtBFilms
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            I tried these last night.

            I already had Willow installed on my mini cabinet but hadn't actually played it. I quite liked it and it reminded me of the classic Ghosts and Goblins game a bit, although somewhat easier. I haven't ever seen the 'Willow' film on which this is based, but was aware of it, as I'm a big fan of the Willow actor - Warwick Davis, who famously also played Wicket the Ewok in Return of the Jedi, and also stars in the Harry Potter films. He's done a lot of TV work as well and comes across as a very funny and down-to-earth guy.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwick_Davis

            PaddleMania, as previously mentioned by @caver01 , probably works better as a multi-player game. In single player its' just a case of surviving as long as possible but the game score's not going to be much use in a competition such as the MAMEROW.

            I couldn't really work out what was happening in Soldam, so I looked up some instructions on www.mobygames.com. They explain:

            "Soldam is a puzzle game where the goal is to match soldam fruits along an entire row. The fruits drop down from the top in a 2x2 square which can be rotated. If the edge pieces match color, all of the fruits in the direction of the matching edge pieces will change their color to match. Matching edge pieces can be made horizontally, vertically, or diagonally.

            Combinations can be made if the color of more than two of the same edge pieces match. Once an entire row of fruits match, it will be cleared and the fruits that didn't match will drop. However, as time played in each stage progresses, the top of the board will begin to drop. If a fruit reaches the top of the board, the game will end.

            Some game pieces that help to clear the board. Along the right side of the screen is the word "extra". Occasionally, a letter from that word will drop. If all of the letters are on the board, a pixie will appear to clear multiple fruits from the board.

            However, some pieces hinder the ability to clear the board. A "sekiero" piece will occasionally drop, which takes up all four spaces in the square. In order to clear the sekiero, the entirety of both of the horizontal rows around the sekiero must match. If a stage goes on for too long, an enemy will appear to occasionally throw bombs which change the color of the fruits and impede progress.

            A stage is cleared when all of the fruits have been cleared from the board."

            That makes a bit more sense now, but I'm not particularly keen on these dropping gems types of games.

            So because of the Warwick Davis connection, my vote this week is going to Willow. I'm not entirely sure where it shows your score, but on attract mode there appears to be a high score listed, so presumably there's a high score table and I just have never scored enough to get on it so far?

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            • pjftP
              pjft @GtBFilms
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              @gtbfilms I actually played it last night and was surprisingly underwhelmed :/ I even lost one life by virtue of the timer running out, of all things.

              The score is on the top left of your screen.

              I'll probably still vote for it as it looks quite nice, but I expected a bit more.

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              • obsidianspiderO
                obsidianspider
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                This week's winner is Willow

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                • obsidianspiderO
                  obsidianspider
                  last edited by obsidianspider

                  For anyone else wondering how in the heck you climb up to the ledge to get over the bridge at the very beginning of the game, you press Up + Jump at the same time. It took me way too long to figure that out.

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                  • obsidianspiderO
                    obsidianspider
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                    Holy cannoli this is an unforgiving platformer. I can make it to what I assume is the boss at the end of the first level (the big dog/rat/pig thing) but no farther. You also don’t see your score on the continue screen.

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                    • obsidianspiderO
                      obsidianspider
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                      I finally made it to Level 2. I actually ran out of time fighting the boss on the first level. The lowest score on the leaderboard is 10,000 points, but I did manage a screen grab right after I died the final time in Level 2. 9,000 is my best for now.

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                      • obsidianspiderO
                        obsidianspider
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                        On to the leaderboard! Woo hoo!

                        14,150

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                        • GtBFilmsG
                          GtBFilms @obsidianspider
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                          @obsidianspider that's a great score! Best I can manage is 10450 so far. And that took a lot of practice!

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                          It's a difficult game. Not least because of that timer - I don't think I've ever seen a game that doesn't stop the timer when you reach the end of level boss - you can be halfway through beating him when this game suddenly goes 'Time Up!'. Ha!

                          And the timer ticks down even when you are choosing what to buy from the shop guys.

                          I'm not really sure how the purchased items work either. I seem to do better against the end of level boss if I have bought the ancient stone item. I don't know if the benefit of items remains if you lose a life?

                          The number of coins you collect seems to be random. For a while I thought of you picked up a coin which was still bouncing, you were more likely to get more, but I'm not sure that's correct - sometimes you get 1 coin, other times a few hundred or even a thousand I think. There doesn't seem to be any rules to this.

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                          • obsidianspiderO
                            obsidianspider @GtBFilms
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                            @gtbfilms The timer seems to be unreasonably short, and yeah, the game is unforgiving. The farthest I've gotten is just past the "Shop" in stage 2.

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                            • GtBFilmsG
                              GtBFilms
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                              I was having a hunt around the internet for tips for Willow, and came across this:

                              https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-videogames/W/Willow__1989__Capcom.pdf

                              It's the instructions for fitting the Willow boards into the cabinet of an old game - it looks like this game was sold as an upgrade to existing cabinets to provide a new game at low cost. There's interesting advice on cleaning up the cabinet, and replacing the marquee/artwork to make it look like new, but all the arcades I remember used to just jam a new board in and leave the cabinet a total inconsistent mess!

                              I actually find this sort of thing quite interesting, as it shows arcade-owners side of the business, which I was never really aware of (or even considered) in the hey-day of arcades. I remember being flabbergasted to first find out about dip-switches and how arcade owners would set a new machine to EASY on arrival, then bump up the difficulty after a few weeks - all the kids like me would plough more cash in adamant that "I used to get further than this on a credit!"

                              I did manage to find a comprehensive game guide as well:

                              https://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/583866-willow/faqs/43002

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                              • UDb23U
                                UDb23
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                                Willow overlay and launching image are now available.
                                ;-)

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                                • PeriodicLogicP
                                  PeriodicLogic
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                                  Wow this game is hard. My highest score, I think, is 2,000 points. Furthest I've gotten is just past the first bad guy that requires more than one shot.

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                                  • GtBFilmsG
                                    GtBFilms @PeriodicLogic
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                                    @periodiclogic best strategy I have found for that guy (on the bridge) is buy the ring from the shop before, this allows you to take a few hits, then keep jumping towards him firing, trying to time it so you jump any projectiles. If you get close to him he disappears and reappears elsewhere but it prevents him firing too many shots. Also if he reappears at the level of the bridge (instead of in mid air) you can get a few shots in before he disappears again.

                                    When he dies the bridge collapses so get ready to run.

                                    Having said that, he still manages to kill me about half of the time!

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                                    • D
                                      Domogram Rovers
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                                      They had Willow in my local arcade back in the early 90s. I seem to remember, near the start of the game, there is somewhere you can shoot into what looks like empty space but there is something there which turns from invisible to visible when you fire there a few times if you know what I mean. Some kind of power up? Sorry for the vagueness but it was a long time ago!

                                      The King in King & Balloon is a dead ringer for Donald Trump!

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                                      • D
                                        Domogram Rovers
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                                        Got to the second stage twice in about 30 attempts. 14050 is my best so far.

                                        The King in King & Balloon is a dead ringer for Donald Trump!

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                                        • pjftP
                                          pjft
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                                          The Ghosts and Goblins comparison is surprisingly valid from a gameplay perspective. It certainly feels like a have from the series, maybe slightly easier than those.

                                          Still, I never managed to get into the high score table. Maybe I'll play some more this week if I have the chance.

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                                          • PeriodicLogicP
                                            PeriodicLogic
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                                            17,300!

                                            But only after setting the difficulty to the lowest level (which I'm not sure really changed anything), and jacking up the number of lives and hit points.

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                                            I found the game a lot less sadistic with these settings, although the time limit still eliminates one of those extra lives.

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