mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

Riverstorm

@grant2258 - Ok, I was just looking for verification if such a game existed as I couldn't find any via a Google search either.

markwkidd

There is some big news. Tentative, but big so I'm going to hold off on too many fireworks. There may be bugs or unintended consequences. I think that grant and I are the only folks who've tested this code much at all.

After a major late-stages assist from @grant2258 I was able to complete the implementation of the four current RetroPad layouts as RetroPad "subclasses".

As discussed a page or two back, this means that the default layouts are no longer chosen in the Options menu but in the Controls menu. Folks that compile mame2003-plus now will get this new "Phase 4" input system.

If you want to test this, don't be surprised if you have to delete or change existing remap files. I have tested this only with a clean RetroArch environment with no saved remap files. Maybe existing remap files will work fine though!

Capeman

@capeman said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

OMG OMG OMG! RAD MOBILE is on the gamelist! I'm trying this out tonight! That is my holy grail of unemulatable games on the pi!

A good game to tackle would be to get a more modern driver for Ninja Baseball Bat Man, that runs slow as yuck on the pi!

Amazing work! Cant wait to try it out!

The github page says Rad Mobile is one of the newly supported games in the wiki as of 0.63... but it still runs the same on 2003PLUS as it does on 2003 standard (choppy and buggy, exactly the same) - am i doing something wrong or do "supported games" on 2003PLUS not necessarily mean they are playable?

Edit* Mr. Driller is the same thing. It doesnt work on 2003 standard (it loads but never leaves the rom loading screen). It's on the supported gameslist on the 2003PLUS wiki, but it still doesnt work in the plus version either? I have a proper 0.78 romset, anything else i could be doing wrong?

Edit** Outfoxies is on the list for newly supported, but it runs exactly the same as 2003 and still has no sound.

grant2258

@capeman said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

0.78 romset, anything else i could be doing wrong?
Edit** Outfoxies is on the list for newly supported, but it runs exactly the

update your roms make the dat in mame or grab it from the metadata folder

Loggahead

Got a question. I just updated from source and found that the mame menu has changed and input general and input this game are no longer available. Did those options go somewhere else?

Loggahead

NVM, found my answer on github. Under Quick Menu \ Options, the very last setting is something like Use MAME Remappings. Setting that to enabled brought those options back.

pjft

@capeman I don't think the pi will run the Mr. Driller arcade version decently. Even on AdvMame it plays quite slow.

For your Mr. Driller fix I would recommend the PSX version or GBC, GBA or Wonderswan.

skj

@markwkidd

Is there anyway to disable the copyright/legal notice that pops up at the start of mame2003 plus?

markwkidd

@skj said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@markwkidd

Is there anyway to disable the copyright/legal notice that pops up at the start of mame2003 plus?

It can be disabled via the Options menu in the RetroArch GUI (the menu you get when you press Start+Select)

skj

@markwkidd

Thank you

GreenHawk84

Any possibility of Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder backward support? Currently that game has some issues in Mame2003.

Can I ask what exactly has been improved (as of today) with Mortal Kombat 2 and Ultimate MK3?

Loggahead

Is there an issue with highscores and bally midway games? Just confirmed that neither tapper or rbtapper are saving highscores in mame2003+. Any ideas?

SunnyMo

@capeman said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

Ninja Baseball Bat Man

how about the performance of Ninja Baseball Bat Man, does it have slow down or sound shutter issue?

Darksavior

@sunnymo said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@capeman said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

Ninja Baseball Bat Man

how about the performance of Ninja Baseball Bat Man, does it have slow down or sound shutter issue?

The slowdown won't change. It's pretty much 60fps most of the time on my pi3b+ overclocked to 1.5ghz. mame2003/plus is the fastest way to play it too. FBA is much slower.

SunnyMo

@darksavior yeah, finally i choose lr-mame2003-plus to play the game, though it is not the fastest emulator(which is advmame3.8), but the most balanced one.

Capeman

@darksavior said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

The slowdown won't change. It's pretty much 60fps most of the time on my pi3b+ overclocked to 1.5ghz. mame2003/plus is the fastest way to play it too. FBA is much slower.

I don't overclock mine, the game runs slower than 60fps for sure on both mame2003 and plus, you can tell in the sound, it sounds like its constantly stuttering. Not talking about standard game slowdown from too many sprites on screen, just overall performance.

Darksavior

@capeman said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@darksavior said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

The slowdown won't change. It's pretty much 60fps most of the time on my pi3b+ overclocked to 1.5ghz. mame2003/plus is the fastest way to play it too. FBA is much slower.

I don't overclock mine, the game runs slower than 60fps for sure on both mame2003 and plus, you can tell in the sound, it sounds like its constantly stuttering. Not talking about standard game slowdown from too many sprites on screen, just overall performance.

The pi is too slow. It's not the game's fault. You need to overclock to get rid of most of the slowdown. I only get slowdowns on my oc'd pi on the intro to the stages only. The rest of the game is mostly 60fps solid.

mediamogul

@capeman

If you don't want to overclock for whatever reason, you can also get full frame rate during game play by using AdvanceMAME 3.x. It'll reduce the slowdown on the stage intros as well, but not eliminate it altogether.

grant2258

just put frameskip on if you dont want to overclock or use a more powerful box to run your emulation there is only so much a pie can do. A mini pc is what you need install linux and retropie on that

mediamogul

@grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

just put frameskip on if you dont want to overclock or use a more powerful box to run your emulation there is only so much a pie can do. A mini pc is what you need install linux and retropie on that

Frameskip has the major disadvantage of disrupting a player's timing. The Pi is indeed an under-powered computer, but RetroArch also adds a lot of overhead not found in standalone emulators. Many arcade games that are right on the edge of acceptable performance can be improved greatly by just picking a more appropriate emulator on a case-by-case basis. Fortunately, RetroPie makes that very easy.