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    • mituM
      mitu Global Moderator @George
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      @George said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

      I was using the scriptmodules for mame4all and advmame as a reference while doing the script. That's why I included the addSystem "arcade" lines (though I also include the optional arguments for description and file extension). Are you saying I should remove the addSystem line for arcade or remove the optional arguments?

      • Advmane is using arcade and mame-advmame as ROM folders - see here.
      • Mame4All is using arcade and mame as ROMs folders - see here.

      They're not configuring any sub-folders. So you can probably use arcade and mame (similar to Mame4ALL).

      In other news, I've found that the Pi can get very hot during compilation. [...]

      Did you hear about cross-compiling :) ?
      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/19854/install-and-configure-precompiled-emulator-binaries/5

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        George @mitu
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        @mitu said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

        • Advmane is using arcade and mame-advmame as ROM folders - see here.
        • Mame4All is using arcade and mame as ROMs folders - see here.

        I see that advmame is creating a sub-directory here, but it's not actually being referenced in the configuration file. In fact, I don't reference the arcade/mame subfolder either, so I could probably take out:

        mkRomDir "arcade/$system"

        as well as:

        ln -sf "$romdir/$system/$mame_sub_dir" "$romdir/arcade/$system"
# fix for older broken symlink generation
rm -f "$romdir/$system/$mame_sub_dir/$mame_sub_dir"

        Would that be it?

        Did you hear about cross-compiling :) ?
        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/19854/install-and-configure-precompiled-emulator-binaries/5

        8-O!!! I did not know about cross-compiling for RetroPie. I will have to check it out! Though, it's probably still good to do a compile test on the actual device.

        - George

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        • mituM
          mitu Global Moderator @George
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          @George said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

          I see that advmame is creating a sub-directory here, but it's not actually being referenced in the configuration file. In fact, I don't reference the arcade/mame subfolder either, so I could probably take out:

          I think that's for configuration or nvram, hiscore storage, but not dedicated ROM storage.

          8-O!!! I did not know about cross-compiling for RetroPie. I will have to check it out! Though, it's probably still good to do a compile test on the actual device.

          Timing a build is certainly useful - especially if the package is meant to be installed from source - , but not so much on a Pi Zero :).

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            George @mitu
            last edited by George

            @mitu said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

            I think that's for configuration or nvram, hiscore storage, but not dedicated ROM storage.

            Yes, the symlinks are for nvram, hi, etc. but they are still not used in the config file (see here).

            Updated the script again. Really want to nail down the (sub)system issue. I really appreciate the ongoing feedback! Thank you.

            - George

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            • mituM
              mitu Global Moderator @George
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              @George said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

              Updated the script again. Really want to nail down the (sub)system issue

              Which issue ? (you might have mentioned it during this topic, but I can't remember it).

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                George
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                Hahah, yes this thread is getting long. Just the issue of not having arcade/mame as a (sub)system.

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                • mituM
                  mitu Global Moderator @George
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                  @George I though you were referring to something like adding command line parameters for starting mame as a different system emulator, like lr-mess does for multiple systems.

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                    George
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                    @mitu said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

                    @George I though you were referring to something like adding command line parameters for starting mame as a different system emulator, like lr-mess does for multiple systems.

                    Apologies for the confusion. I'm not trying to do anything like that. But I do want to make sure the script is as clean and conformant as possible.

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                      George
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                      Quick little update. I successfully built MAME on my Intel/Ubuntu RetroPie installation with the script. Things are looking good.

                      I have not been able to get cross-compiling to work though. Am I correct in my understanding that I should be able to cross-compile MAME for ARM/Raspbian Stretch on an Intel/Ubuntu machine? On one post I read that it might not be possible because of a large number of dependencies.

                      I get the following errors:

                      See any operating system documentation about shared libraries for
more information, such as the ld(1) and ld.so(8) manual pages.
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make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/george/Downloads/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/crosscomp/build-gcc/libcc1'
make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/george/Downloads/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/crosscomp/build-gcc/libcc1'
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/george/Downloads/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/crosscomp/build-gcc/libcc1'
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/george/Downloads/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/crosscomp/build-gcc'
Makefile:2302: recipe for target 'install' failed
make: *** [install] Error 2
~/Downloads/RetroPie-Setup

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Running action 'switch_distcc' for 'crosscomp' : Create am arm cross compiler env - based on examples from http://preshing.com/20141119/how-to-build-a-gcc-cross-compiler
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/cc' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/gcc' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/c++' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/g++' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++'
sed: can't read /etc/init.d/distcc: No such file or directory
Failed to restart distcc.service: Unit distcc.service not found.

                      Again, thanks as always.

                      - George

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                      • mituM
                        mitu Global Moderator @George
                        last edited by

                        @George said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

                        . Am I correct in my understanding that I should be able to cross-compile MAME for ARM/Raspbian Stretch on an Intel/Ubuntu machine?

                        Yes, that should work. While not specifically for MAME, I did cross-compile lr-mame and lr-mess, but not using the RetroPie provided scripts - though it certainly should be possible.
                        What Ubuntu version and architecture are you using for cross-compilation ?

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                          barbudreadmon @George
                          last edited by barbudreadmon

                          @George it might be a good idea to only include playable drivers when building mame for pi, i don't see the point of having all those 3d/preliminary drivers that will never run at playable speed on a rpi, except if you really want to compile for 2 days and a half, and exhaust your ram and disk space with huge executables.

                          For the remainder, it is described at https://docs.mamedev.org/initialsetup/compilingmame.html

                          You can do driver specific builds by using SOURCES=<driver> in your make statement. For instance, building Pac-Man by itself would be make SOURCES=src/mame/drivers/pacman.cpp REGENIE=1 including the necessary REGENIE for rebuilding the settings.

                          Ofc, it would mean managing a list of those drivers

                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                            markwkidd @barbudreadmon
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                            @barbudreadmon said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

                            Ofc, it would mean managing a list of those drivers

                            The driver list could be generated by script but yeah of course someone's then got to write the script :|

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                            • mituM
                              mitu Global Moderator @George
                              last edited by mitu

                              @George I did try to cross-compile from an Ubuntu 18.0.4 host and it seems to work, but there's one gotcha - you need to copy your scriptmodule to the chroot that gets created. So the steps would be

                              # build the cross-compiler 
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh crosscomp setup stretch

# Compile one small package in the chroot, to get it created 
sudo   ./retropie_packages.sh builder chroot_build module lr-picodrive

# Copy your scriptmodule to $HOME/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/builder/stretch/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/...., then run the cross-compilation.
sudo   ./retropie_packages.sh builder chroot_build module mame

                              Note that the builder will cross compile twice - for RPI 0/1 and for RPI 2/3. I haven't figured out how to compile for one platform only, but you can modify the builder script to exclude the platforms you're not interested in.
                              Some steps in the MAME compilation will be executed completely on the ARM chroot (.lay files 'compilation'), they won't get any significant speed up from cross-compilation, but overall it should be considerably faster to get a PI build using cross-compilation.

                              Leaving aside the cross-compilation, I have just one suggestion for your scriptmodule - you're currently hardcoding the MAME tag release, but you can get the latest release tag dynamically from Github. Look at how this is implemented in the Skyscraper module, here and here.

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                                George
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                                Thanks for the info @mitu. I've been trying to get a handle on why this is not compiling. I'm still getting stuck at that first step:

                                sudo ./retropie_packages.sh crosscomp setup stretch

                                This fails while building libgcc

                                Makefile:883: recipe for target '_gcov_dump.o' failed
Makefile:883: recipe for target '_gcov_flush.o' failed
Makefile:883: recipe for target '_gcov_fork.o' failed

                                Here's some info on my platform:

                                $ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
Release:        18.04
Codename:       bionic

                                The processor is an AMD processor and not Intel though. Not sure if that would actually make any difference here though. There don't seem to be any errors that would indicate a missing dependency either.

                                @barbudreadmon and @markwkidd, yeah the script could be modified to only include specific drivers. That would need some experimentation to see how much it would reduce the compile time. Thanks for the info.

                                - George

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                                • mituM
                                  mitu Global Moderator @George
                                  last edited by mitu

                                  @George said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

                                  The processor is an AMD processor and not Intel though. Not sure if that would actually make any difference here though. There don't seem to be any errors that would indicate a missing dependency either.

                                  The CPU doesn't make a difference, I actually run this also on an AMD, with the same release of Bionic. Must be something else I've run before that made the setup work.

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                                    George
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                                    This is pretty hard to track down, but I think I've made some progress. I ran apt update/upgrade a couple of times just to be sure I had everything up to date. Perhaps something had not gotten upgraded in my previous attempts. Now, it looks like everything is compiling, but the last step is still failing:

                                    = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Running action 'switch_distcc' for 'crosscomp' : Create am arm cross compiler env - based on examples from http://preshing.com/20141119/how-to-build-a-gcc-cross-compiler
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/cc' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/gcc' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/c++' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/g++' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++'
'/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++' -> '/opt/retropie/admin/crosscomp/stretch/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++'
sed: can't read /etc/init.d/distcc: No such file or directory
Failed to restart distcc.service: Unit distcc.service not found.

                                    I'll dig in some more and see if I can resolve it.

                                    - George

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                                    • mituM
                                      mitu Global Moderator @George
                                      last edited by

                                      @George Install distcc manually on the host.

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                                        George
                                        last edited by George

                                        Ah, on a whim, I ran apt install distcc and it looks like that might be the missing piece. Taking a look at the original post I find evidence that this might be the case.

                                        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/166552

                                        EDIT: Thanks @mitu, guess we cross-posted.

                                        @George Install distcc manually on the host.

                                        - George

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                                          George
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                                          I believe I've gotten past the first step. Now, I'm trying to do the following:

                                          sudo   ./retropie_packages.sh builder chroot_build module lr-picodrive

                                          But it gets caught at:

                                          = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Running action 'chroot' for 'image' : Create/Manage RetroPie images
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Chrooting to /home/myuser/Downloads/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/builder/stretch ...
Unknown host QEMU_IFLA type: 43
Unknown host QEMU_IFLA type: 43
sudo: /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/retropie_packages.sh: command not found

                                          I note that my RetroPie-Setup directory is not in the user's home directory, but under a secondary Downloads directory. But /home/myuser/Downloads/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/builder/stretch/home/pi/ is created at least.

                                          - George

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                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            @George said in Installation of Mamedev MAME:

                                            I note that my RetroPie-Setup directory is not in the user's home directory, but under a secondary Downloads directory

                                            I installed RetroPie-Setup on the host (i.e. like a PC installation - see the docs) - maybe that makes a difference.

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