Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo

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I just installed Stretch on 3B+ fresh, and that comes with FBAlpha. Is that the "best" core of choice these days or should I be looking for FBAlpha2018? Looking for max compatibility and performance as usual.

dankcushions

@sainirahulk17 said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

I just installed Stretch on 3B+ fresh, and that comes with FBAlpha. Is that the "best" core of choice these days or should I be looking for FBAlpha2018? Looking for max compatibility and performance as usual.

well, stretch has been superseded by buster for about a year and a half, and fbalpha has been superseded by neo for even longer. for a pi3B+ i don't think there's any real benefit for using older versions of FBA/raspbian.

barbudreadmon

@sainirahulk17 said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

FBAlpha2018

Omfg, should i really delete that personal backup so that people understand that they shouldn't use it ?

mitu

@barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

Omfg, should i really delete that personal backup so that people understand that they shouldn't use it ?

It's spam, copied from https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/19741/goodbye-fbalpha-welcome-fbneo/30 (last year). Would have looked really weird if you had removed that backup though :).

barbudreadmon

Added support for :

2 on 2 Open Ice Challenge
Judge Dredd proto
NBA Hangtime
NBA Jam
NBA Jam TE
NBA Maximum HT
WWF: Wrestlemania

dodonpachi

@barbudreadmon Is there any word on progress for the CV1000 driver?

barbudreadmon

@dodonpachi said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

@barbudreadmon Is there any word on progress for the CV1000 driver?

we don't accept requests
we don't give ETA

barbudreadmon

Added support for Battletoads.

Also forgot to mention that the following games were added in late december :

Gladiator
LSA Squad
Daikaiju no Gyakushu

barbudreadmon

Added support for more arcade hardware using that tms34010 cpu from midway games :

Cheese Chase
Stone Ball
Ultimate Tennis

@roslof you might want to follow this topic for compatibility list updates : FBNeo is probably a better choice than mame2016 for the NBA hangtime games if that one got no sound (are you sure it's not an issue with sound being too low in service menu ?).

roslof

@barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

@roslof you might want to follow this topic for compatibility list updates : FBNeo is probably a better choice than mame2016 for the NBA hangtime games if that one got no sound (are you sure it's not an issue with sound being too low in service menu ?).

Sounds good @barbudreadmon. I'll definitely check it out. A lot of the time, the ROMsets are compatible, but if you update the ROMset to a newer version, I can't really verify, but I can follow, test, and minimally update the notes if you believe things work properly. But for NBA Hangtime, I think I have what I need to check.

roslof

@barbudreadmon a quick test shows everything looks good on Pi4B. You were correct: Test Menu volume issue. Interesting that some of these Midway games default to such a low volume. I noted in the compatibility list how to increase the volume for each game that requires the change.

Noted a couple of times (and might already be a known issue) that when long-pressing start to enter test mode, when returning to a game, sometimes the game speed would get thrown off (too fast) until a restart. Not a major problem, but worth noting.

Love the software!

barbudreadmon

@roslof said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

when long-pressing start to enter test mode, when returning to a game, sometimes the game speed would get thrown off (too fast) until a restart

oh ? does it happen too on fbneo ? (or are you actually talking about fbneo ?)

roslof

@barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

oh ? does it happen too on fbneo ? (or are you actually talking about fbneo ?)

Correct. lr-fbneo for ARM/RPi4B.

barbudreadmon

@roslof said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

@barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

oh ? does it happen too on fbneo ? (or are you actually talking about fbneo ?)

Correct. lr-fbneo for ARM/RPi4B.

ok, just to confirm because it doesn't seem i'm able to reproduce, this is with nbahangt ? Is it very noticeable when the issue happen ? Everything is sped up or only music/animation ?

edit: you are using latest version built from sources, right ? around 1 week ago, those nba games had some speed issues (it was the other way around though : characters were running too slow)

Darksavior

@barbudreadmon Decided to finally update fbneo from source last night and sort some games that I was originally using on mame2016. Some bugs with a few games I briefly tested but I don't know if they're reported.

Alien Syndrome aliensyn.zip and E-Swat eswat.zip load to a black screen. I can see the fps counter and I can exit the game normally.
Moonwalker's audio is at a higher pitch mwalk.zip.
Crime Fighters crimfght.ziphas issues with the volume. Sound effects are way too low and the music volume lowers itself sometimes.

barbudreadmon

@darksavior said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

Alien Syndrome aliensyn.zip and E-Swat eswat.zip load to a black screen.

Yeah, i discovered that one 2 weeks ago, it's related to hiscores (actually those games will work if you disable hiscores by turning off the core option or removing hiscore.dat), we have a fix ready but we haven't commited it yet because we are worried it could cause hiscore deletion in some other games.

@darksavior said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

Moonwalker's audio is at a higher pitch mwalk.zip.
Crime Fighters crimfght.zip has issues with the volume. Sound effects are way too low and the music volume lowers itself sometimes.

Thanks for the report, i'll look at those 2.

barbudreadmon

@darksavior said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

Moonwalker's audio is at a higher pitch mwalk.zip.

I can't hear a difference between FBNeo and this video of the pcb :

Maybe you are running the game at 60Hz because vsync is enabled and vrr_runloop_enable (Sync to Exact Content Framerate) is set to false ? The game run at 57.23Hz and i think mame2016 doesn't care about vrr_runloop_enable and will force the game at 57.23Hz whether it's enabled or not.

@darksavior said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

Crime Fighters crimfght.zip has issues with the volume. Sound effects are way too low and the music volume lowers itself sometimes.

Yeah, this one will need adjustments.

Edit : fixes for aliensyn, eswat and crimfght are on git

Darksavior

@barbudreadmon Thanks. Vsync is enabled and vrr_runloop_enable = "false". I enabled it but it still has the high audio pitch and it's still 60fps. Yea, mame2016 sounds fine and it hovers around 57fps.

barbudreadmon

@darksavior said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

I enabled it but it still has the high audio pitch and it's still 60fps

Looks like a setup or a pi4 issue since this setting works as expected with below-60Hz games on my pi3. Sadly i won't be able to help you with that, and that's pretty bad since tons of games run below 60Hz.

Darksavior

@barbudreadmon Here we go. My mistake. I forgot there's multiple cfg's. I enabled it through the retroarch gui instead of editing the cfg file and that vrr setting seems to be working now.