Backdrops in mame2003-plus

UDb23

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

Sorry I read it several times and I'm still not quite understanding. In my head I think of it like this. Game area is 810 x 1080 so make back drop of 810 x 1080 (with the new information you figured out with the issue). Then make overlay 1920 x 1080 with a 810 x 1080 window if that makes sense

Correct: that overlay will contain bezel graphics and (e.g. SI) some part of the "carton backdrop" (left & right of the game area). If someone uses just that overlay without the backdrop art for the game area it will look wrong as game are will have black background.

As said no issue, just some overlay must be adapted and should be used with specific overlay.
I will create the SI one soon so you'll se what I mean.

I'm vectoring a high res (but worn out) image of Taito SI bezel; I'm not happy with the quality of bezel/overlay images used so far ;-)

Clyde

@UDb23 Your zip file works fine on my Retropie. See for yourself:

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Clyde

@UDb23 FYI, I'm running mame2003-plus 644b581.

UDb23

@Clyde

My lr mame 2003 plus: 8678668
Updated from source last weekend.
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Glad to know it works. When did you update?

Riverstorm

@UDb23 @Clyde - Sorry I'm slow to respond. I am rebuilding my Pi. I had a G.Skill card that I think was giving some grief. I'm trying out a Samsung EVO that's ok but slow CDM Benchmarks come in around 50MB/s.

Anyway I am on commit 1d4e820 and it works good here too! Nice snap Clyde I'm digging the shader! ;)

Riverstorm

I also tested an older backdrop with an overlay (I think Mr. Do, I downloaded it a long time ago) and that worked also. It's not centered at all and need some adjustments but it does work too.

Riverstorm

@Clyde - Could you by chance share your vector settings? I don't think I have my tweaked to look that good. It looks sharp.

UDb23

@Riverstorm Is that the latest ? Did you update from source today?
Hope just updating will solve. I did not change any 2003plus settings.

Btw:I got a 64GB evo plus and works fine as SD.

UDb23

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Riverstorm

@UDb23 said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

Is that the latest ? Did you update from source today?

Yeah that was current as of 3 or 4 hours ago so an update and you should be set.

Riverstorm

@UDb23 said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

Btw:I got a 64GB evo plus and works fine as SD.

Yeah shoot I wish It was the Plus version but they had a big ol' sale on the regular so I grabbed one. Local retailers in the area mainly carry SanDisk Plus and SanDisk Extreme that are really Rock solid in the Pi and benchmark over 100MB/s.

UDb23

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

SanDisk Extreme

They are the top but pretty expensive ! I use those with my DSLR.
I don't think transfer rate impacts Retropie that much; especially considering Arcade games.

grant2258

the pi sdcard reader isint the best you wont see great transfare rates on it regardless of the card you use. I hope that is something they work on in future revisions

Clyde

@UDb23 said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

@Clyde
Glad to know it works. When did you update?

According to the timestamps of the core, it's from Dez 21, 09:39.

Did you update yet, and did that fix your problem?

Although @Riverstorm says it works with the latest build, I'm now hesitant to update my running system. ;)

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

Nice snap Clyde I'm digging the shader! ;)

Thanks, although it isn't authentic for vector games, I think, because vector monitors didn't have a raster but "painted" the graphics with their electron beam. Right?

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

@Clyde - Could you by chance share your vector settings? I don't think I have my tweaked to look that good. It looks sharp.

Gladly. They are just the ones I liked when the vector options were implemented in mame2003-plus.

mame2003-plus_vector_antialias = "enabled"
mame2003-plus_vector_beam_width = "2"
mame2003-plus_vector_flicker = "20"
mame2003-plus_vector_intensity = "1.5"
mame2003-plus_vector_resolution_multiplier = "3"
mame2003-plus_vector_translucency = "enabled"

@UDb23 @Riverstorm As for SD cards, I have a Toshiba Exceria Pro 401 (32GB) in my Pi. It also had good test results and it was slightly cheaper than the Sandisc Extreme Plus when I bought it. My roms are on a Samsung Evo 250 SSD anyway. :)

But like @UDb23 and @grant2258, I don't think that the upper end of transfer speeds matters much in a Pi running Retropie.

UDb23

@Clyde @Riverstorm Updated right now and...

it works, thanks!

Pull request for full screen (1080p) backdrop made.
Backdrop is available here meanwhile.

Actually final res is: 1912x1080. Still need to find out if we can "trick" the .art system to provide right calculations.

UDb23

@Clyde Your vector setting look really great. Copied your config ;-)

UDb23

One more backdrop: Armor Attack

It was actually an overlay applied to the monitor ; Mame was considering this as a backdrop 'cause there was a tinted screen on top ?
Anyway it works nicely so why bother.

The image for the bd on MrDo's is only 1024x1078 so resulting quality is not ideal at higher res.

mame2003plus backdrop avalable here.

Consider this preliminary (but works) as I was able to get detailed pics from a nice guy that owns the real cab parts.
Will create a new bd from those. Aligment also is important for playability.

Clyde

@UDb23 Works perfectly on 1600x1200 without any changes to the art file, thanks!

UDb23

FYI thanks to @markwkidd & @arcadez now sound for Frogs works.
You can get the samples from Twisty's.

Riverstorm

@Udb23 @Clyde - Thanks for the tips on the cards so It sounds like I should be fine with 50MB/s with the non-plus EVO card.

Every new Mirco SD card, flash drive, hard drive (internal and external) I run through CDM Benchmak testing with the default format and cluster size. Then I screenshot it and store it in a folder. Not sure why I've done that for years. Interesting to see the speeds increase and trends over the years.

@Udb23 - That's pretty cool so you have a nice camera too! Are you an art major? Art (drawing) was always my first love but never good enough to put food on the table but I still dabble to work the other side of my brain.

@Clyde - Yeah your correct. Vector graphics have zero pixels. They have a start point and end point, no pixels. I just really enjoy shaders in all things but usually not on vector games but your screenshot wowed me as it just looks great.

I just happen to have some extra time today gentlemen so I'll be implementing some new backdrops and get some screen time in today, thanks guys. New backdrops, better settings, things are looking up.

We have a few parties we may attend this evening but I think we are going to get some steaks and a nice bottle of wine and do dinner at home with our youngest. Basically stay in, We must be getting old. We grill out often in the winter here and even in the snow as it is today but only light which is good for all tthe drunkards that will be on the road tonight. Also may the New Year bring you health, wealth and prosperity and all the good things you deserve, cheers!