No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.
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@John_RM_70 said in No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.:
I will be keeping my eye on what Odroid are doing.
Odroid (and HardKernel, the company behind them) are around since 2009 and while they're quite a popular choice for SBCs, they're still not gained the support and the popularity of the PI. Remember that the low price means more boards manufactured and more readily available - that is part of the success recipe for the Pi.
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Why do I always come into things too late? :/
Anyway yeah, this thing sounds interesting, Pi will go down as the one that started it all tho I guess in terms of making the market boom, but yeah, top model at such a low price is fairly ridiculous... :/
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@John_RM_70 you have to remember that education is their main goal not game emulation. The $35 price point is to make the product easy to aquire for those who are lower income that couldn't otherwise afford a computer. At that price point they don't have a lot of competition. If you want a more powerful SBC youll have to spend a lot more for something that has a lot less support and a much smaller community. I think the raspberry pi foundation has done well in accomplishing what they set out to do and I don't see them being replaced at the price point any time soon.
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there have been more powerful SOCs available pretty much since the pi2, and maybe earlier. they don't cost much more. at some point you work out that the specs aren't the thing that's made the pi the one with the support.
if anyone cares about specs, just get a intel gemini lake thing or whatever!
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@John_RM_70 said in No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.:
Also, one could argue that it is emulation that has put the Pi where it is today.
No, it's not - that's probably what you seem to fail to understand - retrogaming or emulation is not the target of the Pi Foundation when designing the Pi. It's not about defending, as much as about explaining why your high performance expectations are not what the PI is about.
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@John_RM_70 We can argue all you want, but it's not emulation that 'put Pi into the mainstream'. Coming back to the topic at hand, if you really want something more powerful than the PI, you should shoot directly at a miniPC - this will get you the best software support and performance. Sure, it's a little pricier, but if you dislike waiting for SBC X to get support for Y, that's the best bang for your buck.
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@John_RM_70 said in No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.:
Nonsense. How many on this very forum found out about,or got into the Pi because of Education ? How many ? I'll bet NONE.
I heard about the Pi long before I heard about RetroPie. About 5 years ago I remember I've seen it first, when a colleague bought one to measure the temperature and water level of his acquarium, then he put a motor to control the water levels there. At the time, we tried to get a Pi2(?) for a digital signage system working, but Chromium would barely run and
omxplayerwas the only choice to play HD video, so we had to scrape the idea.
So yeah, I heard about the Pi long before RetroPie.EDIT: just to add another experience to the point above - I got 2 other friends who bought a PI a few years back to run Kodi. One of them even got an Orange or BananaPi, but he gave up on it due to the poor (at the time) software support.
Oh, and I see you get all your forum "mates"to upvote you, and down-vote me". So much for "Community". It's only community if you fall inline with the gestapo.
You got absolutely zero downvotes in this topic.
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@John_RM_70 said in No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.:
How many on this very forum found out about,or got into the Pi because of Education ? How many ? I'll bet NONE
The sample of people in this forum is clearly biased. Since this is a RetroPie forum we're all into emulation, and most likely we found out about Pi because we were looking for an emulation device. I don't think it would be like this for the average Pi user.
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@John_RM_70 what down votes do you speak of? I thought we were just having a friendly conversation? No need to take offense when having a debate. The RPI foundation has stated that the reason they haven't made more expensive boards is that it would take away time and resources that could be spent getting their current lineup and future products developed. So far as emulation being the thing that put raspberry pi on the map, all one has to do is look at the official raspberry pi forums or raspberry pi Reddit to see that emulation is but a very tiny use category.
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@John_RM_70 No one stops you from buying a more powerful device. Odroid could be a right choice but once you got one you will see not only speed difference you will also see lack of support. Yes this platform can run N64 and Dreamcast much smoother but also not 100% fluid. With 8 cores and a much more RAM this is not a good performance at all. As Server application or Desktop unit yes the XU4 will burn the Pie but especially in emulation you need optimization and CPU power together.
@mitu I get in touch with the Raspberry from a good friend. He developed robot controls with this and created a mp3 streamer with it 5 or 6 years ago. Then 2014 he gave me one unit as birthday present and I installed a small webserver on it. Later I used it for Kodi and with the B+ model of the Raspberry 1 I decided to give Retropie a try.
@UDb23 thx for the article
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@John_RM_70 said in No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.:
@mitu said in No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.:
You got absolutely zero downvotes in this topic.
Oh really ? Check again.
The sample of people in this forum is clearly biased
Riiiiiight. Sure it is. Also, I don't see a "Friendly" conversation. I see you all posting in your usual mob gang mentality against anyone that has a slightly negative opinion of your god, the Pi Foundation. Christ, kids the lot of you.
I just checked and I see no downvotes. I personally was just having a friendly conversation but you have clearly taken offense to someone disagreeing with you. I think perhaps this discussion has run its course for me and maybe we can agree to disagree.
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@John_RM_70 said in No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.:
Riiiiiight. Sure it is. Also, I don't see a "Friendly" conversation. I see you all posting in your usual mob gang mentality against anyone that has a slightly negative opinion of your god, the Pi Foundation. Christ, kids the lot of you.
Troll alert...
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@John_RM_70 said in No Raspberry Pi 4 in 2019.:
Riiiiiight. Sure it is. Also, I don't see a "Friendly" conversation. I see you all posting in your usual mob gang mentality against anyone that has a slightly negative opinion of your god, the Pi Foundation. Christ, kids the lot of you.
You seem to be the only one making personal attacks. Enough. Please come back in a couple of days.
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Hi, new here to the forum, I've been running retropie in my pi 3 b+, it's great however does lag sometimes on N64, it's great software, I can't knock it at all. I was also disappointed there is no RPi 4 this year, however orange pi have released a new one, seems to have better specs than RPi 3, what are your thoughts on this board? Worth the upgrade? I think it's called the Orange Pi 3 H6 (the 2GB RAM model)
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Are you guys serious? You banned him for having a different opinion? How this ended proofs him right. If we, the community don't like someone's opinion we just ban him? I have seen far worse people in here that deserved a ban but he was definitely not one of them.
You like it or not or maybe your personal experience with the Pi was different but as he said I also think that it got its biggest popularity boost due to the whole emulation thing. Otherwise what are we for here? Look at the sudden rise of themes for Emulationstation or accessory to make the Pi more of a home device than a science project.
Without the whole emulation stuff ES would have never evolved that far nor Retropie nor Pegasus.@administrators
You should definitely reconsider your ban decision here or one might really think this is the Gestapo. Free to have opinions and agree to disagree.
As long no swearing or personal attacks are made.
Saying we are like the Gestapo is not personal it is a fact for the behavior we showed towards him.A disappointed long time member here.
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