Pi4 audio settings for HDMI

wild snail

No, it is for me, only the sound dont works over HDMI.
Else i dont have to configure anything just play.

Clyde

Most of the current sound problems are caused by a recent update of the underlying OS „Raspbian“. Maybe yours are, too. See here for comprehensive information and workarounds.

wild snail

Thanks for the help, i appreaciate.

I went to my uncles house with this thing, connected it, played with settings, and all the sudden there was sound.
I was very happy, and went back to my house.
Then there was no sound back home.

Maybe my TV is to old ?, 10 years old, while my uncle has a new tv.
Can HDMI be not backward compatible ?

I go try buy another cable see if that works,
if that is true i wont ever buy anything original with a raspberry logo on it.

Sorry for the stressing, it is my TV.
Anyone know anything about this HDMI backward compatibility let me know.

thanks

Clyde

@wild-snail said in Pi4 audio settings for HDMI:

I go try buy another cable see if that works,
if that is true i wont ever buy anything original with a raspberry logo on it.

Because of the cable? Nowadays, most "vendors" of simple parts like cables buy from the same few factories in asia who are making them in the first place, and put their own label on them. Thus, the quality the customer gets comes down to some QA and a big heap of randomness.

Shunning a certain vendor just because of one bad cable seems a little exaggeration to me, and may cut you off from an otherwise excellent hardware source, which in my experience the Raspberry Pi Foundation really is – just search for power-related Pi problems with non-original power supplies.

Just my two cents to maybe save you from a severely wrong decision. 🧐

That said, I'm looking forward to any update about the matter. I wish you success.

wild snail

I tryd another cable and it dit not work either.

wild snail

I just wait for a update image on the site that solves this, i am reading this :
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/26628/audio-issues-after-latest-raspbian-updates/17

Good luck

mitu

@wild-snail I don't understand what update you're waiting. If you read the post, it outlines what configurations need to be done - after Raspian's updates - so that audio works in EmulationStation. If you're using the 4.6 image, but you didn't update your system, then you will not be affected by those updates.

wild snail

Ok thanks
maybe i just need a new tv.

Clyde

Does your TV or your sound system have other audio inputs? Then maybe the audio jack of the Pi could be an option? (This should be obvious, but sometimes we miss the forest for the trees.)

wild snail

Yes i have my pc-speakers at the moment, only it is a mess with all the wires.
I really think it is some PCM problem, with samplerate or channels.

GreenGriffon

@mitu You don't understand why people might be waiting on an update to fix a problem that breaks the sound in ES on a brand new installation of the official RetroPie image?

mitu

@GreenGriffon Yes, care to explain me ?

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@mitu said in Pi4 audio settings for HDMI:

@wild-snail I don't understand what update you're waiting. If you read the post, it outlines what configurations need to be done - after Raspian's updates - so that audio works in EmulationStation. If you're using the 4.6 image, but you didn't update your system, then you will not be affected by those updates.

I agree with mitu. There is no need to update the pi for this, since you only need to change your audio settings.

wild snail

Well then tell me please how do i change my audio settings ?

The Pi3B works fine on my TV, the Pi4B not, it does work at other TVs.

So what is changed in the Pi4 audio compared to the Pi3 ?
Is the samplerate increased ?, maybe there is channels added for surround ?
All these things can give problems on my 10 year old TV.

So dont say i need to change my setting if you dont know how.

mitu

@wild-snail said in Pi4 audio settings for HDMI:

Is the samplerate increased ?, maybe there is channels added for surround ?

No, those things haven't changed.

All these things can give problems on my 10 year old TV.
So dont say i need to change my setting if you dont know how.

It's your choice - have you read the troubleshooting topic ?

Clyde

@wild-snail said in Pi4 audio settings for HDMI:

Yes i have my pc-speakers at the moment, only it is a mess with all the wires.

Well, you could use an HDMI audio extractor as near as possible to your TV and your speakers, so that most of the distance it's only one HDMI cable between the Pi and the extractor. I'm using such a device to connect me and my friend's classic mini consoles to my video projector and my 5.1 surround sound system, since the consoles only have HDMI audio output. These extractors should be available for little money even in domestic shops.

wild snail

Funny, my HDMI-cable is 0,5 meter.

Clyde

@wild-snail It was just an idea to reduce the mess of wires. 😉

GreenGriffon

@mitu Okay. If someone burns a brand new out-of-the-box RetroPie image and updates it - as I imagine most people would do - they will find that their sound no longer works in ES.
Unless that's intended behavior to break the audio, it doesn't seem unreasonable for people to expect this problem will get fixed. It's a pretty critical one.
Hope that's a clear enough explanation.

mitu

@mitu Okay. If someone burns a brand new out-of-the-box RetroPie image and updates it - as I imagine most people would do - they will find that their sound no longer works in ES.

If you burn a 4.6 image, then you'll have the same sound configuration (in Raspbian and EmulationStation) as any of the previously released images. The 4.6 image does not have the updated kernel/firmware that changed the sound configuration.

The issue appears when you update your OS and kernel/firmware packages on the 4.6 image and the sound configuration is changed because of it. We don't control how Raspbian/The Raspberry Pi Trading release updates.

GIven that there is no single configuration that will work out-of-the-box for both updated and non-updated system, the best we can, right now, is to add the necessary configuration options to EmulationStation and make the users that updated aware of the change - hence the topic opened and pinned at the top of the Help category.
We currently support RetroPie on both Raspbian Stretch (which is not affected by the change), this means any system installed using an image prior to 4.6, and Raspbian Buster, this means any system using the 4.6 image.