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    Mystical Ninja Starring Goeman on N64 - has anyone had any joy with this on Pi4?

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      AdamBeGood @quicksilver
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      @quicksilver My mupen64plus was installed from binary in maybe early May or late April, let me install from Source now. Will I need to change my settings again (ie for the screen update mode for gles2rice)?

      And yep, overclocked Pi4.

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        quicksilver @AdamBeGood
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        @AdamBeGood said in Mystical Ninja Starring Goeman on N64 - has anyone had any joy with this on Pi4?:

        Will I need to change my settings again (ie for the screen update mode for gles2rice)

        No you shouldn't have to.

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          AdamBeGood @quicksilver
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          @quicksilver Nope still the same, if maybe slightly better. I tried to send you a video but I don't have the privileges apparently. As soon as I step outside the music goes much slower, although when I stop moving it is fine.

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            quicksilver @AdamBeGood
            last edited by quicksilver

            @AdamBeGood you are for sure using gles2rice? Can you post your mupen64plus.cfg? And your overclock settings? When was the last time you ran a

            sudo apt update
            sudo apt full-upgrade
            

            Edit: you aren't running in 4k mode are you?

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              AdamBeGood @quicksilver
              last edited by AdamBeGood

              @quicksilver Yep, defo gles2rice. I did have the 4k enable set in config (someone said it worked as an Overclock setting), but I've taken that out now and done the sudo apt full-upgrade.

              Overclock is now:

              '''
              over_voltage=6

              arm_freq=2095

              h264_freq=750

              isp_freq=750

              v3d_freq=830
              '''

              Just getting you the config for mupen64plus now.

              Edit: https://pastebin.com/J1SnnUpY

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                quicksilver @AdamBeGood
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                @AdamBeGood you have frameskip turned on in the gles2rice settings in your mupen64plus.cfg.

                Change to

                SkipFrame = False
                
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                  AdamBeGood @quicksilver
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                  @quicksilver Okay, cool. I've just got to pop out but I'll try this when I'm back. Thank you!

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                    quicksilver @AdamBeGood
                    last edited by quicksilver

                    @AdamBeGood and just as a side note you don't need these overclock settings:

                    h264_freq=750
                    isp_freq=750
                    

                    It likely won't hurt anything since they won't be used but there is also no reason to overclock them in the first place. You can see for yourself by running a game then checking the current frequency of the ISP or h264 block by running
                    vcgencmd measure_clock isp (or replace isp with h264) the frequency will be reported back as 0

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                      mitu Global Moderator @quicksilver
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                      @quicksilver I found that a nice script to monitor various Pi clocks and temperature is bcmstats. You can leave it started in a SSH session while testing the performance of your system.

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                        quicksilver @mitu
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                        @mitu oh neat! I'll definitely check this out, thanks.

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                          AdamBeGood @quicksilver
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                          @quicksilver I've changed the FrameSkip now (and taken the pointless overclock values out), but I still don't see any improvement. Thanks for the advice on those anyway, I am sure they have made things better marginally, but certainly not noticeably with Goeman.

                          Does yours really run smoothly? If you enter the game and then take the character immediately outside, the game does not choke up? I can't believe it!

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                            quicksilver
                            last edited by quicksilver

                            @AdamBeGood said in Mystical Ninja Starring Goeman on N64 - has anyone had any joy with this on Pi4?:

                            Does yours really run smoothly? If you enter the game and then take the character immediately outside, the game does not choke up? I can't believe it!

                            No noticable slowdown whatsoever. I actually played until I got to the top of mt. Fuji. I'll double check your mupen64plus.cfg again to see if there are any other settings that may be different between us. Can you also check what your current video mode is in the runcommand menu?

                            Edit:
                            Only other difference I see in the gles2rice section of your mupen64plus.cfg is the texture enhancement filter setting. Try changing

                            TextureEnhancement = 6
                            

                            To

                            TextureEnhancement = 0
                            
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                              AdamBeGood @quicksilver
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                              @quicksilver Everytime I change something I am so optimistic that it is going the game is going to run fine, but it hasn't yet. Still very slow whenever the camera moves outside.

                              Here is the video option (I'm having trouble with uploading a screenshot) - "640 x 480 @60Hz 4:3 (25.18 MHz, nhsync, nvsync, driver)"

                              This is so confusing, there must be some difference between our two systems. I am glad the game can run on a Pi okay though, that is positive.

                              Edit: Could you post your muben64plus config and I will copy that wholesale - that will eliminate any possible differences caused by that?

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                                Yobiwan
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                                Just tried with gles2rice plugin and performances are not consistent. Sometime flawless, sometine choppy. I think we will have to deal with it for now...

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                                  AdamBeGood @Yobiwan
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                                  @Yobiwan As in you get different performances on the same system? Or different across different systems?

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                                    AdamBeGood
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                                    I've got to the top of Mt.Fuji and back to the save point. It adds an extra element to the game when you have to try to keep the camera as straight as possible to avoid crippling slowdown. As soon as it starts panning, there is a problem.

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                                      quicksilver @AdamBeGood
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                                      @AdamBeGood this is very bizarre. I'll post my config when I have a chance. Can you confirm your TV is actually displaying in 640x480 mode? once you start the game up check and see if your TV remote has a "display" button or something similar that will show the current resolution. I'm wracking my brain to think what else could be different between our systems...

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                                        AdamBeGood @quicksilver
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                                        @quicksilver I really don't get it..

                                        It's a monitor but resolution seems to be right. It shows as displaying at 640 X 480 when the game is running.

                                        Goeman.jpg

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                                          Yobiwan @AdamBeGood
                                          last edited by Yobiwan

                                          @AdamBeGood It's on Pi4 4Go. I haven't tried on PC. I didn't play a lot but in the intro animation, when Sazuke is running on the roof tops there is a big slow down.

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                                            quicksilver @AdamBeGood
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                                            @AdamBeGood here is my mupen64plus.cfg. I do NOT recommend overwriting yours with mine. I have made other changes to the Gliden64 section and changed where save files are stored so it could mess up your setup. Just use it for comparison purposes. I compared it to your cfg and all relevant settings are the same now (assuming you changed the two settings I told you about).

                                            https://pastebin.com/2CY08bU8

                                            Ill keep thinking about what else I could have tweaked in the past that would be giving me a performance boost, but Im starting to run out of ideas...Id gladly post a video to show you the performance I am getting but Im not sure the best way to do that.

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