Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME

Folly

@dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

@folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

Are you going to try GP32 in mame ?
Try to find the overclock option for mame.

Honestly, the easiest way would be to use MESS without Lr (retroarch) to see what happens with auto frameskip and systems performance in general. I don'T know how to get It.

MESS is now a part of MAME.
In the lr- versions, arcade and computers are still somewhat splitted.
Therefor It's not needed to use MESS anymore because it's 1 package now.

Perhaps you can still compile standalone MESS,
but then you have to edit the makefile of the MAME source and compile MESS manually.
Finding out how to, will be difficult, I think.

Edit :
Alle these packages are compiled from the MAME source :

lr-mame
lr-mess
MESS (if still possible)
MAME

DTEAM

@folly
Great. I'll try It with MAME first.

TPR

@dteam @Folly Is there a repository to download some of the missing artwork, for example, the overlay for astrocmd.zip - I don't see it on the Google Drive that you linked to, or did I miss it?

Thank you!

DTEAM

@folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

So you only have to add it like this, I think :
mame-GP32= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip %BASENAME%"

If you run the game, go to the slider menu for overclocking/underclocking.

It works if I switch %BASENAME% by gp32 !!!!!
But something missing, we can see the introduction logos but the game won't load. May Be wrong Bios location. I'm digging to see where the problem come from.
I tested nes, fmtmarty, gp32, jaguar, supracan.
For FM-Marty, I hope It will fix saves bugs.

TPR

@dteam @Folly As I'm going through more of the "classich" roms, I take it there are just some games that don't have overlays? I want to make sure I'm not missing something here.

DTEAM

@tpr
No,It’s normal. Some games have no overlay

TPR

@dteam Thank you!

DTEAM

@folly

@dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

@folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

So you only have to add it like this, I think :
mame-GP32= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip %BASENAME%"
If you run the game, go to the slider menu for overclocking/underclocking.

It works if I switch %BASENAME% by gp32 !!!!!
But something missing, we can see the introduction logos but the game won't load. May Be wrong Bios location. I'm digging to see where the problem come from.
I tested nes, fmtmarty, gp32, jaguar, supracan.
For FM-Marty, I hope It will fix saves bugs.

jaguar works like this:

mame-jaguar= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip jaguar -cart %ROM%"

fmmarty like this

mame-fmmarty= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip fmtmarty -ram 96M -cdrm %ROM%"

NES like this:

mame-nes= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip nes -cart %ROM%"

Gamecom

mame-gamecom= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip gamecom -cart1 %ROM%"

It works with regular game names !!!! Not just with MAME naming... Awesome!! Nothing to do in mame.ini

It’s scary how It’s simple!

@folly, You could have two emulators (lr-mess and mame/mess) with your script if you want !!!! (-;

Folly

@dteam

WOW, nice. Haha.
Indeed, Now that you say. I was a bit aware of it.
And indeed it's simple if you got the "aha" effect !
I can confirm, I have to look at that some time to implement this it the script, I was aware of it.
Thank you for the suggestion ! ;-).

Folly

@dteam

In your earlier post I can't really tell if you got GP32 working or not.

But I had a look. This is the media type you have to load with GP32 :

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listmedia GP32
SYSTEM           MEDIA NAME       (brief)    IMAGE FILE EXTENSIONS SUPPORTED
---------------- --------------------------- -------------------------------
gp32             memcard          (memc)     .smc

Try this :

mame-GP32= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip GP32 -memc %ROM%"

Folly

@dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

It works with regular game names !!!! Not just with MAME naming... Awesome!! Nothing to do in mame.ini

It’s scary how It’s simple!

Explained :

MAME naming works like this :
If it finds the name and checksum in the database (~/BIOS/mame/hash/<system>.xml), if it exists.
Then it knows how to run the game with which type of media and with which system.

In the commands above we tell MAME, what system and media type it has to run.
That's why the gamename doesn't mather anymore.
As you see with jaguar and nes, etc.
That's the theory.

Basically, earlier on, I did the same with Philips CDI in an earlier script.
But with Philips CDI, I could not get it to work anymore.
Now I think it's because of a BIOS change, but I still don't actually know.

DTEAM

@folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

Try this :
mame-GP32= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip GP32 -memc %ROM%"

Yes GP32 works, but also very slow with autoframeskip and slider overclock 125% .

CD-i also works :

mame-CD-i= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip cdimono1 -cdrm %ROM%"

TPR

@dteam @Folly So what exactly does what you guys are talking about in this last exchange do? I'm not familiar with gp32

DTEAM

@tpr
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This system (gp32) doesn’t work well with Lr-Mess, but seems cool to play.

That’s why I’m trying to run It with MAME.
Same result with MAME

TPR

@dteam OH! Duh. Sorry. I thought for some reason it was a setting in MAME. Sorry, my brain is too far deep into these G&W games right now! lol

Folly

@dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

@tpr

This system (gp32) doesn’t work well with Lr-Mess, but seems cool to play.

That’s why I’m trying to run It with MAME.
Same result with MAME

Looks very cool !
Perhaps it will improve with the next version of MAME combined with the new vulkan video driver.
We have to wait a little bit longer.

Tried to edit my script for MAME.
But this can get quite a challenge or very difficult.
Because :

I have to dig deeper in how script-modules are written.
Also MAME has to find/use the same BIOS files as lr-mess.
And it would be nice if 1 scriptmodule could add both commands for a system in one time in an emulators.cfg (for mame and lr-mess in one time)
(So then I also have to look at the filenaming of the script modules)
Also Valerino has a run_script for MAME, I think.
So It can load a bit the same as it does with lr-mess.
And a database should be added for the different options we would like to add ( like you did with fmmarty adding more ram)

Are you getting it all Pfff.... ;-) ?

So for the time beeing,
I leave it for a while to get a better picture on how It has to be done and perhaps begin from scratch.

DTEAM

@folly
Seems to be a big project !
What is your feeling about Vulkan. Is It coming soon?

No need to play with Retropie naming :
gb = Retropie gameboy = MAME

mame-gb= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip gameboy -cart %ROM%"

It works as It is with gb rom folder and gameboy for MAME !

Folly

@dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

@folly
Seems to be a big project !

Indeed, but sometimes if I have a good idea about it,
I can make it simpler and also smaller and easier.
We will see, I hope I get the AHA effect.

What is your feeling about Vulkan. Is It coming soon?

I heard that it is already in a very developped stage.
My brother said that it's already in the UBUNTU OS for RPI4.
But I really don't know.
My feeling is that it could be implemented within a month or perhaps two months.
Curious if i will be correct in the prediction.

No need to play with Retropie naming :
gb = Retropie gameboy = MAME
mame-gb= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip gameboy -cart %ROM%"
It works as It is with gb rom folder and gameboy for MAME !

Yes, I know.
Perhaps we don't understand each other about this point.
But this part shouldn't be a problem for the future script.
I really meant the the filenames of the module-scripts.
Because if a generated module script can also add a mame command and the name of the script module is lr-mess...etc....
You get confused about what the module-script actually does. That was my concern.

DTEAM

@folly
Hi Folly, I'm trying to run MSX2 with cartridge and It won't recognize. Any idea!
I already try this

mame-msx2= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip msx2 -cart %ROM%"

and this

mame-msx2= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip msx2_cart -cart %ROM%"

also without 2 (MSX standalone)

Folly

@dteam

You have to use an MSX type like this for example :

mame-msx2= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip hbf700p -cart1 %ROM%"

And make sure you have a matching BIOS rom file.
hp700p.zip

With this command you can find which one you really want (you use grep to filter the lines containing your search text) :

/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listdevices | grep Driver | grep MSX

If you want some information about the system do :

/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listdevices hbf700p

If you want some information about the supported media do :

/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listmedia hbf700p