(SOLVED) MAME "standalone" Cheats for systems like Coleco, Arcade and more

DTEAM

@Folly
See above, any idea? It works with MAME (Arcade) but not MAME (MESS). On http://www.mamecheat.co.uk/forums/viewforum.php?f=2, they are able to run those systems.

New edit:
I also found this: https://docs.mamedev.org/advanced/paths.html

Folly

@dteam said in MAME "standalone" Cheats for systems like Coleco and more:

@Folly
See above, any idea? It works with MAME (Arcade) but not MAME (MESS). On http://www.mamecheat.co.uk/forums/viewforum.php?f=2, they are able to run those systems.

Nice work, getting cheats to work.
I have never used cheats.

Reading the posts I got a bit confused about what you mean by:

It works with MAME (Arcade) but not MAME (MESS)

Now I think I know what you mean.
You mean :

systems that were in MESS and which are now merged/added into MAME, don't work.
systems that were already in MAME (Arcade) before the merge with MESS, do work.

But with both systems (your edit1 and edit2) your cheats are in the same way added, right ?
So I think I understand it correctly now.

Looks like the picture from edit1 asks for a softwarelist with games.
Seems like you run the system and game with a command-line just like we did earlier.
Did you add the (-c) or (-cheat) option in the commandline ?

Looks like the picture from edit2 uses a softwarelist with games.
So it looks like it get's information from the softwarelist in order to run the cheat.
Then I think the (-c) option doesn't have to be used.

I don't know If I am correct in this thinking though ;-) .

Did you check your runcommand.logs and generated commandlines both times ?

DTEAM

@folly said in MAME "standalone" Cheats for systems like Coleco and more:

Now I think I know what you mean.
You mean :

systems that were in MESS and which are now merged/added into MAME, don't work. - YES
systems that were already in MAME (Arcade) before the merge with MESS, do work. - YES

But with both systems (your edit1 and edit2) your cheats are in the same way added, right ? YES

Looks like the picture from edit1 asks for a softwarelist with games.
Seems like you run the system and game with a command-line just like we did earlier.
Did you add the (-c) or (-cheat) option in the commandline ?
Yes , I tried It with Jaguar and nothing happened

emulators.cfg

mame-jaguar= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip -cheat jaguar -cart %ROM%"

Note: roms with MAME naming for the test

Folly

@dteam

What is the other emulators.cfg ?

DTEAM

@folly
mame-jaguar= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip jaguar -cart %ROM%"
With or without -cheat, It runs the same way with the mame.ini above.

Folly

@dteam said in MAME "standalone" Cheats for systems like Coleco and more:

@folly
mame-jaguar= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip jaguar -cart %ROM%"

Now I am confused.

Do you use jaguar both times, one that works and one that doesn't work ?

Or which Arcade system did you used then ?

DTEAM

@folly
No sorry, for Arcade and jaguar, I did nothing excepted what you see above with mame.ini and cheat.7z file location.

for -cheat in emulators.cfg , I did a test with jaguar and nothing happens. mame.ini seems to do the same thing.

For some reason, we can load cheats for arcade games (MAME) and not for systems from the old MESS

Folly

@dteam said in MAME "standalone" Cheats for systems like Coleco and more:

@folly
No sorry, for Arcade and jaguar, I did nothing excepted what you see above with mame.ini and cheat.7z file location.

for -cheat in emulators.cfg , I did a test with jaguar and nothing happens. mame.ini seems to do the same thing.

Ok I understand it correctly.

What is your emulators.cfg of Arcade then ?

DTEAM

@folly
those 2

mame_autoframeskip = "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip %BASENAME%"
mame = "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame %BASENAME%"

Folly

@dteam said in MAME "standalone" Cheats for systems like Coleco and more:

@folly
those 2

mame_autoframeskip = "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip %BASENAME%"
mame = "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame %BASENAME%"

Yes, just what I was thinking/explaining in my earlier post.
Your edit1 doesn't run through the softwarelist and your edit2 does.
In both (Arcade and jaguar) you use MAME naming, as you said,
but with jaguar you added the system in the commandline so the MAME naming for the softwarelist is not used/rejected.
So the question is, do cheats only work when a game is loaded the softwarelist way.

Pfff... do you follow it ?

Can you try your jaguar game (with MAME naming) from the Arcade rom directory, to see what will happen ?
Perhaps you also have to add a hash table for jaguar too in you mame directory.
Here are hash tables :
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/tree/master/hash

DTEAM

@folly
Not working. In mame.ini , It already pointed in the hash folder with xml. The xml. are already there.

Folly

@dteam said in MAME "standalone" Cheats for systems like Coleco and more:

@folly
Not working.

Do you have hash tables ?
I think the have to be in :
/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame/hash

DTEAM

@folly

Yes, and in 2 places (lr-Mess and MAME) . For mame, It's in the mame.ini and Its full by default, unlike Lr-Mess

My hashpath
/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/hash;
/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame/hash;

Folly

@dteam
And you have the jaguar.xml in there ?

DTEAM

@dteam

What %BASENAME% doing
Can we use it in

mame-jaguar= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip -cheat jaguar -cart %ROM%"

with jaguar

Folly

@dteam

I am quite certain basename is the romname without the extension.
So the basename is looked up in the hash tables then it knows the :

game
system
etc.

DTEAM

@folly
yes, jaguar.xml is there
Before I use your script, I installed Lr-Mess systems manually with .xml files.
I'm running both. I'm familiar with It.

Folly

@dteam

Is your jaguar game with the correct checksum in the jaguar.xml hash table ?

DTEAM

@folly
No, games are in the rom folder and xml (for mame) in /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/hash and for lr-mess in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame/hash.

/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame is a cut and paste mistake, sorry

Is your jaguar game with the correct checksum in the hash table ?

Yes, because I'm able to run It with this line and It required the .xml file:

lr-mess = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so --config /opt/retropie/configs/jaguar/retroarch.cfg %ROM%"

This line doesn't work if I delete the .xml file in the hash folder

Folly

@dteam

I think we have a missunderstanding.
Well, this happens with how MAME works , haha ;-)

I really meant, open your jaguar.xml in a texteditor and look for your game.

Edit : looking at your post it looks indeed you have a good rom with a good checksum, because it runs with lr-mess.