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    • AshpoolA
      Ashpool
      last edited by Ashpool

      @Folly Well, after some meddling with the script and mess systems, I can only say: so far (as said, had just used it before for the handhelds) I was pleasantly surprised that it covered a lot of the hazards I feared so far whence using mess systems. But somewhat disappointing is that from all things I tried (appleII|appleIIc/bbcb/pc8801/lynx), only lynx was somewhat satisfying and the other ones had various issues, but as those are not related to the scriptmodules, i also have to say that neither i had found anything that I could report in this regards :]

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        Folly @Ashpool
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        @Ashpool

        Thanks for testing ;-)
        Did you already discover that you can update the test versions from within the script ?
        I am planning to do some more work when I have the time.

        Will try those systems you mentioned and see what results I get.
        Indeed much is related to the source code of mame itself.
        For bbcb I know it works but other emulators do a better job.
        What was your issue with bbcb ?

        Btw,
        I am working and testing now on Ubuntu 22.04 and all seems to work pretty good now.

        I only had 2 issues so far :

        • auto removing the top-bar so emulationstation will use the whole screen. (installing extension manager and enable hide top-bar)
        • changing some shortcut key-combinations in OSX so they don't interfere with ctrl in combination with the cursor keys in the Ubuntu VM (^->,^<-, etc)

        Edit :
        Sadly, Ubuntu 22.04 has a lot more issues described over here ;-(

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        • AshpoolA
          Ashpool @Folly
          last edited by Ashpool

          @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

          Did you already discover that you can update the test versions from within the script ?

          Nope, good to hear ;) last think I remember is:

           Remember : the test versions (253.06) can't be updated right now because they are still in the 00-workdir-00. If update is selected it will downgrade to 253.05.
          

          What was your issue with bbcb ?

          gfx glitch in "elitea", the cobras "console"/interior ploted fine, but the "outside" view/grafic wasn't fitting the screen (only ~1/4 visible, as if zoomed into the topleft position of a virtual display).

          I am working and testing now on Ubuntu 22.04 and all seems to work pretty good now.
          I only had 2 issues so far :

          auto removing the top-bar so emulationstation will use the whole screen. (installing extension manager and enable hide top-bar)
          

          Mh, didn't know that hiding the top-bar was possible, I avoided it by "falling back" from wayland to xorg.

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            Folly @Ashpool
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            @Ashpool

            I am adding update info in this post now :
            https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29682/development-of-module-script-generator-for-lr-mess-lr-mame-and-mame-standalone/1364

            You first have to update manually, after that updating is possible from within the script.

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              Folly @Ashpool
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              @Ashpool said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

              gfx glitch in "elitea", the cobras "console"/interior ploted fine, but the "outside" view/grafic wasn't fitting the screen (only ~1/4 visible, as if zoomed into the topleft position of a virtual display).

              Indeed too bad, I have the same issue.
              Also tested bbcm but that makes no difference.

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              • DTEAMD
                DTEAM @Folly
                last edited by

                @Folly

                Hi Folly,

                I tried to use th PCECD add-on with:

                mame-system-pcecd-cdrm-autoframeskip = "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -v -c -autoframeskip -ui_active pce pcecd  -cdrm %ROM%"
                

                I tried to use the "no intro romset" and it doesn't work.

                If I don't use the "basename" command, normally I should be able to use a ROM no matter the name? Right?
                I don't remember if it's different for .chd (cd ) games.

                Here's my log. If I use the good MAME Rom, It should work, but I'm trying to use it without the hashfile.

                Parameters: 
                Executing: /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -v -c -autoframeskip -ui_active pce pcecd  -cdrm "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/tg-cd/Buster Bros. (US).chd"
                
                "pcecd" approximately matches the following
                supported software items (best match first):
                
                * Software list "pcecd" (NEC PC Engine / Turbografx-16 CD-ROMs) matches: 
                fanspc1           PCEngine Fan Special CD-ROM Volume I (Japan)
                hyprcata          PCEngine Hyper Catalog Duo-RX - Disc A (Japan)
                hyprcatb          PCEngine Hyper Catalog Duo-RX - Disc B (Japan)
                hypercap          PCEngine Hyper Catalog (CD-ROM Capsule) (Japan)
                policeco          Police Connection (Japan)
                prinmak2          Princess Maker 2 (ACD, SCD)(Japan)
                spcfzone          Space Fantasy Zone (CD, SCD)(Japan, prototype)
                psycdet3          Psychic Detective Series Vol. III - Aya (Japan)
                psycdet4          Psychic Detective Series Vol. IV - Orgel (Japan)
                psycdet3d         Psychic Detective Series Vol. III - Aya - Auto Demo (Japan)
                hyperdyn          Hyper Dyne SideArms Special (Japan)
                princesm          Princess Minerva (Japan)
                priveyed          Private eye dol (ACD, SCD)(Japan)
                psychics          Psychic Storm (Japan)
                spaceinv          Space Invaders - The Original Game (Japan)
                supersch          Super Schwartzschild (CD, SCD)(Japan)
                
                * Software list "pce" (NEC PC Engine HuCards) matches: 
                pcdenj            PC Denjin - Punkic Cyborgs
                pcdenja           PC Denjin - Punkic Cyborgs (alt)
                pcgenj            PC Genjin - Pithecanthropus Computerurus
                pacland           Pac-land
                pcgenja           PC Genjin - Pithecanthropus Computerurus (alt)
                pcgenj2           PC Genjin 2 - Pithecanthropus Computerurus
                pcgenj3           PC Genjin 3 - Pithecanthropus Computerurus
                pcpachi           PC Pachi-slot
                gecd              Games Express CD Card
                circusld          Circus Lido
                cyberdod          Cyber Dodge
                pcgenj3t          PC Genjin 3 - Pithecanthropus Computerurus (Taikenban)
                spaceinv          Space Invaders - Fukkatsu no Hi
                makaipri          Makai Prince Dorabocchan
                cybrcore          Cyber Core
                jchan             Jackie Chan
                
                
                
                
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                  Folly @DTEAM
                  last edited by Folly

                  @DTEAM

                  Just found something about pcecd I read that it's an addon.

                  Will have a look if I can find the files and how to load it.

                  This command gives information that -cdrm (.chd) file can be loaded with just using pce.

                  pi@pi-2204:~$ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listmedia pce
                  SYSTEM           MEDIA NAME       (brief)    IMAGE FILE EXTENSIONS SUPPORTED
                  ---------------- --------------------------- -------------------------------
                  pce              cdrom            (cdrm)     .chd  .cue  .toc  .nrg  .gdi  .iso  .cdr  
                  pce              cartridge        (cart)     .pce  .bin
                  

                  So, again, I think you have typo in the runcommand :
                  pce pcecd

                  Just use :
                  pce

                  Edit :
                  Above did not work.
                  It will ask for a cartridge.
                  Tried gecd boots but Loom.chd did not work.
                  (Haven't got your game yet.)
                  Will try some more.

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                  • DTEAMD
                    DTEAM @Folly
                    last edited by DTEAM

                    @Folly
                    Same problem on my side. It ask for a cartridge. I'll take a look on the notes in the pce_cd.cpp file

                    http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/download_file.php?tipo=sourcefile&codice=pcecd&emulator=964&oper=view

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                      Folly @DTEAM
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                      @DTEAM

                      Everything is down now so I can't get any files.
                      Will try to get bbros tomorrow so I can test with softlist loading and eventually without.

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                        Folly @DTEAM
                        last edited by Folly

                        @DTEAM

                        Edit : A solution is in the next post. This post seems irrelevant.


                        I think they need to add HuCard slots in pce_cd.cpp.
                        (// TODO: correct name, split into incremental HuCard slot devices)

                        Listslots will give :

                        pi@pi-2204:~/RetroPie/roms/pcengine/cylums-turbo-grafx-cd-rom-collection$ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listslots pce
                        SYSTEM           SLOT NAME        SLOT OPTIONS     SLOT DEVICE NAME
                        ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------------------
                        pce              ctrl             arcade_pad_6     NEC Arcade Pad 6
                                                          avenue_pad_6     NEC Avenue Pad 6
                                                          joypad2          NEC PC Engine Pad
                                                          joypad2_turbo    NEC PC Engine/TurboGrafx-16 2 Button Joypad
                                                          mouse            NEC PC Engine Mouse
                                                          multitap         NEC PC Engine/TurboGrafx-16 Multi Tap
                                                          pachinko         Coconuts Japan Pachinko Controller CJPC-101
                                                          pcjoy            Micom Soft XHE-3 PC Joystick Adapter for PC Engine
                        
                                         cartslot         [none]           No options available
                        

                        You see that there are no cartslots available.

                        Don't know if it is correct but it seems it's only possible to softload pcecd files.

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                          Folly @DTEAM
                          last edited by Folly

                          @DTEAM

                          I have Loom.chd booting now ;-)

                          I had a look at the PC-Engine docs and found that lr-beetle-XXXXX needs syscard or equivalent to boot cd's.
                          So I had a search in the the software for pce.

                          /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listsoftware pce|grep cdsys
                          

                          The cdsys.zip file contains all version of syscard (cdsys,cdsysa and cdsysb)
                          I tried them all on my Loom.chd and It booted in the CD boot screen.
                          After pressing "1" it will mention that Loom requires the Super CD-ROM System.

                          After a good search the rom for mame is scdsys, obviously.
                          So I did a test with that rom with this test cmd :

                          pi@pi-2204:~/RetroPie/roms/pcengine/cylums-turbo-grafx-cd-rom-collection$ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -rompath . pce scdsys -cdrm Loom.chd
                          

                          Putting the scdsys.zip in the same directory as the game.
                          Now after pressing "1" the game boots !

                          So I don't have the bbuster.chd yet, as everything is still down.
                          But this is something you can try.
                          Just add these cdsys and scdsys files in BIOS/mame and add one of them instead of ~~pcecd~~.

                          Let me know if it works.

                          ps. scdsys is probably the best way to go as it looks like it is the latest version and will probably cover most games.

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                            DTEAM @Folly
                            last edited by DTEAM

                            @Folly

                            Wow, nice work! You are now a MAME expert!
                            Glad to see you solved this puzzle!

                            NEW EDIT: I can't find cdsys and scdsys. I'll continue to search them on google

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                              Folly @DTEAM
                              last edited by Folly

                              @DTEAM
                              Added to the normal versions (now 253.08) (commit has wrong version (mistake)) :
                              https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/e6b9900cc28e4d6b673a28e4e19c71066db05e0f

                              Can you test !

                              Help has been added, look at that too.
                              BIOS can be in BIOS/mame/pce

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                                Folly @DTEAM
                                last edited by Folly

                                @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                NEW EDIT: I can't find cdsys and scdsys. I'll continue to search them on google

                                Read my help in the install line.

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                                  Folly @Ashpool
                                  last edited by Folly

                                  @Ashpool

                                  I am probably moving back to my Debian 11 VM.
                                  Ubuntu 22.04 already gives multiple things that need fixing.
                                  If you are familiar with these problems we can add a separate thread for this and discuss it over there.
                                  The issues are :

                                  • emulationstation and emulators not centered in desktop display
                                    • solution is to enable auto-removing the top-panel/top-bar so emulationstation will use the whole screen. (install the extension manager from ubuntu software and enable hide top-bar)
                                    • https://fostips.com/auto-hide-top-panel-debian-ubuntu-fedora/
                                  • OSX shortcut key combinations interfere with the Ubuntu VM
                                    • solution is to change some shortcut key-combinations in OSX so they don't interfere with ctrl in combination with the cursor keys in the Ubuntu VM (^->,^<-, etc)
                                  • apple keyboard keys aren't all correct and can't find a solution
                                  • apple keyboard FN key not working for using F1 - F12 (solution was to set keyboard & mouse, in the VMware, on on mac profile)
                                  • selecting multiple files with the ctrl-key in nautilus doesn't work, also no solution found
                                    • tried caja and it doesn't work in caja either so the issue seems not file-explorer related
                                  • Ubuntu key combo's (ctrl+alt) activate unwanted conflicts when playing games
                                  • moving files from the host to the VM doesn't work
                                    (VMware tools is noted as installed and copy/past of text works)
                                    • reinstalling open-vm-tools + open-vm-tools-desktop did not work
                                    • using caja instead of nautilus works but a drag file icon is displayed which cannot be removed without restart or logging out and logging in
                                    • logging out and logging in and selecting the settings icon to open Ubuntu on xorg seemed to be a solution however the VM will freeze/lock (and is troublesome to shutdown or restart)
                                  • It's a bit slower than Debian

                                  I had hoped it was better but I expect much more issues.

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                                    Folly @DTEAM
                                    last edited by Folly

                                    @DTEAM

                                    Tested already many files from the chd_pcecd romset.
                                    And Buster Bros. (USA) from the redump.pce.revival works too.
                                    Up til now many work ;-)

                                    I hope the speed is ok on the pi4, can't test right now.

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                                    • AshpoolA
                                      Ashpool @Folly
                                      last edited by Ashpool

                                      @Folly

                                      @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                      moving back to my Debian 11 VM.

                                      Sounds like a good idea (though I never used pure debain so far), i also encountered some trouble whence using shared folders now: seem to be working right after enabling 'em, but not anymore after a reboot/restart (need to be deactivated, all FS traces removed from the guest (media target folders) and then can be enabled again). Guess the OpenVMware-Tools need some overhaul in regards to nowadays Ubuntu. But for me setting up a new vm has has to wait 'till next week, as i am currently abroad.

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                                        Folly @Ashpool
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                                        @Ashpool

                                        We can make threads of both in general discussion and discuss installation and issues we face.
                                        Let's see next week or so.

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                                          Folly @DTEAM
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                                          @DTEAM

                                          Any news ?

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                                          • DTEAMD
                                            DTEAM @Folly
                                            last edited by DTEAM

                                            @Folly

                                            It doesn't work with No-Intro Roms, i'll try with MAME roms
                                            I got the good BIOS

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