Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone

Folly

It's likely due to the version/binary of mame you use.

Folly

I stopped updating the database ini files for 266 and decided that I will skip this version update.
It might be that I will also skip several more version updates that will save me a lot of time.

Seems to me that a large number of users cannot or will not play with mame 265 or higher yet as most are still using older OSes and the users of PI5's seem also limited.
Therefor it makes no real sense to do the version updates.

If someone thinks differently about it then let me know and I can reconsider.

DTEAM

@DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

Problem with CDI, All CD systems work excepted CDI. Maybe it's on my side for that one.

CDI works with 0.264 but not with 0.265. I used mame0.265 binary (line 12) from your script. 0.265 has some bugs for some system. For exemple for VIS, I cant use MAME alocated buttons , like exit. but for some systems, everything working well. I came back to 0.264.

Does it exist another precompiled 0.265 compatible with a Pi4?

Folly

@DTEAM

Ok interesting that you could somehow use 265 partly.
Did you make a new 64 bits Bookworm image for yourself and installed RetroPie-Setup on top of it ?

No there is not another 265 binary for the PI4.
You should make it yourself.

Folly

@DTEAM

Just tested cdimono1 (philips cdi) and it does work on my PI4 and PI5 with the mame 265 stickfreaks binary.

Will test VIS too, will let you know.

Edit :
Tested VIS with "Americas National Parks (1992)(Multicom)(US)" on my PI4 and the shown EXIT buttons in the game do work.
Which game did you try ?

Folly

@DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

I used mame0.265 binary (line 12) from your script.

Line 12 is a totally different binary, see here :

If possible then you should use :

DTEAM

@Folly

Links Golf

For MAME I made a mistake, I used 0.255. It was line 12 on your main download page (Experimental one, at risk ) Sorry. I read too fast. Stupid mistake from me. Sorry for wasting your time.

The stickfreaks file you have is for a 64bit Raspberry Pi OS

see :
https://stickfreaks.com/mame/_README.TXT

I think I need the "armhf"/"armv7l" version for 32bit Rasbperry Pi OS......
It doesn't exist for 0.265. He has stopped to share this option with MAME 0.260. With retropie, the official 32 bit binary file stop at 0.264.

Well, I'll have to go with my Pi5 to continue

Folly

@DTEAM

Ok now I understand,indeed that binary is for RPI1.
Indeed the stickfreaks website dropped the 32bits/rpi2 versions.

The 32 bit's 264 mame binary should still be available from the RetroPie-Setup when you install mame from the original mame module-script.
It is linked in my script or go to experimental packages and install/update from binary instead of source.

I have never added that one to my gdrive.
I will see if I still can.

DTEAM

@Folly
see here
https://github.com/danmons/mame_raspberrypi_cross_compile/issues/6

Folly

@DTEAM

I never used cross-compiling but indeed I see some returning news.
Seems it's best to use a 64bits OS in the future.

What did strike you the most ?

DTEAM

@Folly
@Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

What did strike you the most ?

Not that much. Just the newest additions. 0.264 works well

Maybe we are near the end of 32 bit with MAME. I'll do a manual installation of Retropie on my Pi5. I didn't found a recent (0.265 or 0.266) precompiled 32 bit version of MAME

Folly

@DTEAM

Let me know if it works for you ;-)
And if you want you can share it for my gdrive.

Folly

@DTEAM

Good news.
I used and almost forgotten way of creating a somewhat cross-compiled 64bits binary for RPI3 on my Apple M1(Bookworm VM) in far less than 2 hours.
Nice thing it will work on RPI4 and RPI5 too.
Added that 266 binary to the gdrive.

See here for more info.
I used :

sudo __platform=rpi3 ./retropie_packages.sh mame

p.s.
The Apple M1 is 64bits only, think it's not possible to do it for 32bits.
Probably only works when you use a 32bits OS, so on the RPI5 it would be possible with a reasonable speed.

Edit 1 :
Sadly the mame binary only works in desktop mode on the RPI3 and is of-course also slow.
(might be that something has to be changed in the config.txt for the RPI3)
For the RPI4 and RPI5 it works in both terminal(lite) and desktop mode.

I will probably rename the binary for RPI4 and RPI5 only. (Edit : RPI3 is still in the name, using rpi3dt now [dt=desktop])

Edit 2 :
Got the binary running in "lite-cli-mode" on the zero2w, rpi3a+ and rpi3b+ when installing zram using this :
https://ikarus.sg/using-zram-to-get-more-out-of-your-raspberry-pi/
https://github.com/StuartIanNaylor/zram-swap-config

Got 100% on apple2 (autoframeskip)
kgradius runs on 60% (frameskip 10)

conclusion the binary is compiled ok for rpi3.

Folly

Wasn't planning to update to 0266 but did it anyway.
Among-st others a few new neogeo games have been added.

JimmyFromTheBay

@Folly Hey amigo. Noticed this and wondered if it might help me run the Sinclair ZX80 on my RPi4 with Buster. I downloaded both versions:

lr-mess_0.265_x86_64_BuildBot_gccXX_PC_generic_full_mame

and

lr-mess_0.265_x86_32_BuildBot_gccXX_PC_generic_full_mame

from your Gdrive and installed them in my Downloads folder as before.

Then I tried to run lr-mess-system-zx80-cass with this EMULATORS.CFG:

lr-mess-system-zx80-cass = "/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /home/pi/Downloads/lr-mess265/mamemess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/zx80/retroarch.cfg \zx80 /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame -autoframeskip -ui_active -cass %ROM%"

But it fails with this error log:

Parameters: 
Executing: /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /home/pi/Downloads/lr-mess265/mamemess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/zx80/retroarch.cfg \zx80 /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame -autoframeskip -ui_active -cass "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/zx80/ZX80 4K ROM Kong Loader (Lightning Software, 2010).o" --verbose --appendconfig /dev/shm/retroarch.cfg
basename: unrecognized option '--verbose'
Try 'basename --help' for more information.
[.] parameters dump
\t_retroarchbin: /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch
\t_messpath: /home/pi/Downloads/lr-mess265/mamemess_libretro.so
\t_config: /opt/retropie/configs/zx80/retroarch.cfg (+ /opt/retropie/configs/zx80/retroarch.cfg.add)
\t_cfg_directory: /opt/retropie/configs/zx80
\t_system: zx80
\t_biosdir: /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame
dirname: invalid option -- 'a'
Try 'dirname --help' for more information.
dirname: invalid option -- 'u'
Try 'dirname --help' for more information.
dirname: invalid option -- 'c'
Try 'dirname --help' for more information.
\t_romdir: /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/zx80
\t/tmp/mess.cmd content: zx80 -rp "/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame" -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/zx80 "-autoframeskip" "-ui_active" "-cass" "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/zx80/ZX80 4K ROM Kong Loader (Lightning Software, 2010).o"
rm: cannot remove '/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/zx80/.cmd': No such file or directory
rm: cannot remove '/opt/retropie/configs/zx80/tmpconfig.add': No such file or directory
[.] launching: /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --verbose --config /opt/retropie/configs/zx80/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/zx80/tmpconfig.add -L /home/pi/Downloads/lr-mess265/mamemess_libretro.so /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/zx80/.cmd
[WARN] --libretro argument "/home/pi/Downloads/lr-mess265/mamemess_libretro.so" is neither a file nor directory. Ignoring.
[INFO] RetroArch 1.8.8 (Git 9552f87)
[INFO] Redirecting save file to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/zx80/.srm".
[INFO] Redirecting save state to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/zx80/.state".
[INFO] === Build =======================================
[INFO] Capabilities:  NEON VFPv3 VFPv4
[INFO] Built: Nov  2 2020
[INFO] Version: 1.8.8
[INFO] Git: 9552f87
[INFO] =================================================
[ERROR] Frontend is built for dynamic libretro cores, but path is not set. Cannot continue.
[ERROR] Fatal error received in: "init_libretro_symbols()"

Am I wasting my time here or should it be possible to get this to work?

Folly

@JimmyFromTheBay

Hi friend,
You are wasting your time ;-)

The binaries you used are for regular AMD/Intel machines running linux and RetroPie on regular PC's.
You need the arm/aarch64 variant for running it on a PI4/PI5.
On top of that all versions of mame above 264 need Bookworm to run.
For lr-mess/lr-mame this could be different as I have not tested this yet, but my guts say it will not work just like with mame.

If you want to run it then you need to install Bookworm on your PI4/PI5 and install RetroPie on top of it.
It's advised to use a 64bit Bookworm OS and use the aarch64 binary.

JimmyFromTheBay

@Folly Damn my foolish hopes! 😄

Folly

@JimmyFromTheBay

If you want to run it then you need to install Bookworm on your PI4/PI5 and install RetroPie on top of it.
It's advised to use a 64bit Bookworm OS and use the aarch64 binary.

I can create a new topic about this if needed.

Anyone : Is there some demand for this ?

Folly

@DTEAM @JimmyFromTheBay @bbilford83

Added the latest lr-mess/lr-mame 266 for Bookworm 64bits aarch64 that works on rpi3+4+5.
On the rpi3(1Gb) it even works without desktop environment and is fast enough, just like the old days.
Tried kgradius from konamih and apple2 with good results.
Running it on rpi3(1Gb) in desktop mode does run but is slow so that is probably a no go.

Edit:
The binaries are full mame and therefor big.
The binaries seems to be too big and will not run on the zero2w and rpi3a+ which only have 512Mb.

JimmyFromTheBay

@Folly Fantastic!