What Pi 4 Arcade image?
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@dankcushions said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
0.78 romset collection is trivial to find
Tbh, any fixed fullset is equally trivial to find, the same website which is very well known, and probably the first link you'll get on your favorite search engine as long as you spell your search smartly, is distributing all fullsets, and even for the non-fixed fullsets i believe it has a very small timelag.
Anyway, my point was only about the statement that "there are more working games on mame2003", which is wrong and will only mislead users, and down the line, as an arcade emudev, i know i'll have to deal with the aftermath of someone that did read that false statement, unlike the guy that launched this bomb. It might have been somehow true performance-wise if the OP had an old pi model, but that's not the case here, any more recent emulator will have more working games on a pi4.
@dankcushions said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
at this point i wonder if mame2003 supports anything of note that FBN doesn't?
Sega C1/C2 comes to mind
@jamrom2 said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
but I don't treat other members like shit.
Me neither, i'm just stating facts.
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@clyde said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
@dankcushions I don't know about FBN, but MAME 2003 Plus is a fork of the static mame2003, and therefore should support all of its games plus any additions in the last years.
i'm aware of plus, but that occupies a similar space to FBN for me - better emulator but more involved to locate and maintain a working romset.
You are right in that 2003 romsets may be easier to find, whereas FBN and Plus romsets may require periodic manual rebuilding (although I do stumble upon more or less up-to-date romsets for them from time to time). But that wasn't the point that @barbudreadmon criticised.
why i say both are 'right' is that the quoted line both recommended mame2003 as the best (for a new user), which i agree with, but also made an incorrect statement about the number of "working games".
that said, i'm not sure if "working games" was the intended metric as FBN supports a lot of non-arcade consoles, romhacks and other things that may not be of interest to someone seeking arcade emulation. i'm not sure i've settled on which emulator has the broadest coverage of the popular (and viable to emulate on a pi) arcade titles - it was 2003 a few years ago, but i suspect that it may be FBN now that it has midway, sega system 24 etc. i am tempted to go for a pure FBN setup at this point :)
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@dankcushions said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
i'm aware of plus, but that occupies a similar space to FBN for me - better emulator but more involved to locate and maintain a working romset.
Yeahh well … kinda. But Plus romsets are not that much harder to find, if you can live with one that's 4-9 months old, denying you only a handful of games at the current speed of Plus' development.
So I would rather recommend Plus to a newbee because of its many fixes and GUI additions than the original 2003 which may have problems with some games that Plus has already fixed. But of course thats only a very marginal preference in face of the many more obstacles a newbee faces in this hobby. 😉
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@clyde said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
So I would rather recommend Plus to a newbee because of its many fixes and GUI additions than the original 2003 which may have problems with some games that Plus has already fixed. But of course thats only a very marginal preference in face of the many more obstacles a newbee faces in this hobby. 😉
Imho, plus is just plain better than original 2003 on every fronts :
- should be about the same speedwise
- better integration with libretro features
- it has around 3000 working parent arcade games (that's a lot, we have yet to reach 2500 with FBN), while original 2003 is probably not even reaching 2000
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So … end of the commercial break. 😉
@mellow said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
So building my own collection then, where do I start? The ROM's I got mostly work but there are many that crash.
You have to understand that every arcade emulator (or RetroPie core) needs roms from a compatible romset. Other roms are likely to crash or may have other issues. Actually, that even applies to different versions of the same emulator (hence the MAME 2003 / Plus discussion).
So, you'll have to either use the appropriate emulator (and version) for your roms, or choose an emulator first and then look for its romset. Just throwing random roms at random emulators will only lead to frustration and madness. 🤬
Start with the link that @dankcushions gave you some days ago. Its a good starting point to learn the ancient art of arcade-fu. 😉 Feel free to ask any new or remaining questions here – ideally in one thread per topic.
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To build on Clyde's advice...
Start here...
https://retropie.org.uk/docs/MAME/
This is really the best place to begin your path of knowledge. Retropie is not the same as using a base MAME build on a PC. It's close, but some things are not the same. Different versions of MAME require less samples, different ROMsets... have new features etc.
Pick from the list where you want to be and use Google to find a good archive that has the full set. Bare in mind that that doesn't guarantee the romset will be perfect.. which is why I initally suggested the 2003 set. It's pretty much complete. Of the 4720 game available for play on the 2003 romset, I'd say if you're going old-school, you're covered. The FB Neo has 4896... and will cover more fighting style games as it appears you have designed your cabinet for.
Here is more info...
https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Arcade/I can see you took your time building your cabinet... it's kinda the same thing for the software. Just have patience and ask questions. I'm on my 6th custom MAME build, and have built 4 custom Retropie game systems as well. It's an addiction at this point.
Best,
JamR
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@jamrom2 said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
The FB Neo has 4896...
That documentation needs some updates, FBNeo currently supports 6746 arcade romsets.
@jamrom2 said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
4720 game available for play on the 2003 romset
"Available for play" is a bit of an overstatement, that's the number of romsets it supports, however MAME considers a romset is supported as long as a dump, complete or not, exists. In reality, MAME 0.78 had 444 romsets marked as not working (meaning they won't be playable at all), and another 564 marked as having issues of various severity.
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Drats... nitpicked (trolled) again by Officer Barbudreadmon...
I can only offer to take issue with whomever maintains the Retropie Docs...
So as you suggest, based on your numbers ... of the 4,276 games... 3,712 of the .78 romset for MAME2003 will work and without the warning sign... 1,008 games the
player will have some kind of issue with (sound, graphics, pixel colors, etc, because we don't really know what those issues are) ... of those combined 1,008 "issue" games, how many are actual games someone will be choose to play based on popularity, familiarity, etc and the idea that they still have 3,712 other games to play in the time they choose to play.....which of course then the very next question will be asked once one of the 564 games that works but has an issue gets selected... "how do I turn off the warning signs."Earth shattering... is it really worth your time to troll me... I can do this ALL DAY... of course.. I'd rather be helping this new user setup his work-of-art cabinet with info like how to load the roms, where to put them, how to setup the options in the menu, the differences between the emulator versions... ya know... the good stuff he'll need to know. But that's ok.
Enjoy.
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@jamrom2 said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
is it really worth your time to troll me...
Again, i'm not trolling anyone, just fixing some mistakes about projects i'm involved with.
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Well, then let's bump and elbow and have a beer. Keep up the good work.
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