Nintendo Switch - Whats your view?
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Wow, thanks for the link. I've had such a hectic day that I totally forgot this is tonight. I guess it's a little over an hour and a half now. I hope it makes waffles.
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@backstander: Am I the only one that thought the graphics for the new Zelda were naff? It looked like everything was covered by a thin layer of brown fog, or like I needed to clean my screen. Then the grass was neon green. It almost gave me a headache. Whenever I started getting even a little interested, it all just looked visually dulled down again. Even the explosions.
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Am I the only one that thought the graphics for the new Zelda were naff?
Yeah Zelda did have a kind of dull color palette but that boss with the neon green feet looked awesome and I was thinking, why didn't they do that more? They've got the color palette but then again the game isn't finished so there's still time to fix it lol.
The "precision rumble" was pretty cool. With the right developers working on that, they could do some amazing stuff. Hopefully that doesn't end up being one of those features that no one uses and the ones that do make cheesy games with it.
Maybe if I was like 20 years younger I'd love to have a handheld version of Skyrim!
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@backstander I only caught the last few minutes of it, so I only really saw the Zelda stuff. From what I have seen, the Switch is an interesting concept but has too many parts to lose/break. I might get one in 4 or 5 years when it's tried and tested, has a decent range of games and doesn't cost as much. I'm still happy with my Wii.
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For those who are thinking that will be as close as powerfull than a PS4, AFAIK it will have the power of an WiiU when in dock, and half of the WiiU when in portable mode.
I was reading a lot about that.
Regards.
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The Joy-Con controllers are very interesting and have a lot of kit packed into them to be so small. I hope to see them adapted for computer use over time. With the physical and motion controls alonside that camera, it could make for a highly effective DIY VR control scheme that won't break the bank at $80 a pair.
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Nintendo innovates. They are the grandfather of the modern console and while other companies have added more horsepower under the console hood, they haven't developed any game changing innovation the way Nintendo has. The switch is just another example of Nintendo taking a leap, albeit a daring leap, forward...or maybe sideways.
I don't know if the demand is strong for a seamless gaming experience where someone can transition from mobile to home, and back again. It's certainly it's going to take the right audience to make it a success. However, in brilliant Nintendo fashion, they have put forth a product that is daringly different, and if history is any guide, will be fun to boot.
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@Nismo said in Nintendo Switch - Whats your view?:
AFAIK it will have the power of an WiiU when in dock
Even if i didn't read anything about the nvidia Tegra X2 (which i did and you are totally wrong), i would have some serious doubts about this information, the NX was announced as slightly better than a normal ps4 a few months ago, and if it isn't, i don't think it would be to the point it doesn't surpass the previous generation.
My personal opinion on the Switch : i buy any console which support a game i want and can't run on my computer because of exclusivity, and i won't pass on Xenoblade Chronicles 2, so i'll buy a Nintendo Switch, whatever the specs, whatever the other games on the console.
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@Floob I've pre-ordered one and am looking forward to it.
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For me Nintendo died with the Gamecube.
The GC was the last cool system before they went with that touchpanel and motion sensor stuff.
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@barbudreadmon Switch doesn't have a tegra X2.
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@Nismo said in Nintendo Switch - Whats your view?:
@barbudreadmon Switch doesn't have a tegra X2.
My bad, they talked about a custom Tegra X2 in october but they switched to a custom Tegra X1 in december, that's still a big jump in terms of performance compared to the WiiU.
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@barbudreadmon But in portable mode switch reduces the resolution, gpu frequency to less than the half and blocks fps to 30.
When in dock 1080p scaled.
Switch is not as powerful than a nvidia shiel but it's more expensive.
Anyway it's looks very cool, but 330 euros (without a game) it's a lot of money for an very old hardware, and not so portable with 3 hours of battery. For less than that amount of money you can pay an xbox one or ps4, and apart they are double powerful, doesn't have 32 gb of hard disk... omg. 32gb just in 2017.
Not to mention you have to pay to play online... microsoft started this thing and all enterprises follow him.
As things stand, CPU clocks are halved compared to the standard Tegra X1, but it's the GPU aspect of the equation that will prove more controversial. Even while docked, Switch doesn't run at Tegra X1's full potential. Clock-speeds are locked here at 768MHz, considerably lower than the 1GHz found in Shield Android TV, but the big surprise from our perspective was the extent to which Nintendo has down-clocked the GPU to hit its thermal and battery life targets. That's not a typo: it really is 307.2MHz - meaning that in portable mode, Switch runs at exactly 40 per cent of the clock-speed of the fully docked device. And yes, does indeed confirm that developers can choose to hobble Switch performance when plugged in to match the handheld profile should they so choose.
Switch runs at 720p, that's because all the games are so pixelated on presentation video.
Any phone at these days has better screen and it's more powerfull than a switch. My phone has 1080p screen 8 cores at 2 Ghz and only 105 euros.
I told I have read a lot about this, I just want to clarify that switch is so powerful as a WiiU, half of WiiU when in portable mode.
Of course if you like the games, go for it, but i'm tired Nintendo is selling obsolete hardware at a price of gold, Gamecube was my last Nitendo console.
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Well, i don't think the 32gb will be an issue, Switch run on cartridge and i think there will be a storage zone on the cartridge for updates. Imho, in 2017, with storage capacity going up and price going down, cartridge are better than optical media, and i don't understand why microsoft/sony keep using optical media.
Also, there is no official sources mentioning the clockspeed (even the Tegra X1 is a guess), so i'm still waiting for confirmation from nintendo about that.
Battery is around the same as a ps vita, which is almost the same price while being slower.
Also, i don't think they go overboard for the price, i don't think a Nintendo Switch is cheaper to build than a PS4, same for the WiiU (because of the powerpc cpu and the pad). Poor design ? I don't think so, just different design, they spend money elsewhere.
Again, i don't buy a console for games i can play on my computer, i have both a WiiU and a PS4, and the PS4 was a disappointment (unlike the WiiU with Xenoblade Chronicles X, Bayonetta 2, Fast Racing Neo, Donkey Kong, Splatoon, ... i also like being able to play GC/Wii games on my WiiU). -
I really wanted to get one of these, but I will hold out as I refuse to play £60 for the games, which is what I have seen them potentially going for. Hopefully it is wrong, but will wait and see :(
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I'm in but it's going to have to wait, it's just not in the budget right now. I actually had one in the cart at Gamestop when they were still up for pre-order but never pushed it through. I'm on a fixed income and my once a month payday falls on the 3rd of every month. Since it comes out on the 3rd of March there's always a chance I'll get lucky and find one locally then but I'm not holding my breath. When I find one in stock when I have the funds I'm definitely there.
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Was really looking forward to the announcement hopeing to bag a decent hybrid console that I could play when the partner want's to use the telly rather than using my laptop to hookup to the PS4 or xbox. Massivly dissapointed in the screen resolution and life of the device most £50 windows tablets have the same res screens and hdd space and 3 hours of life whilst playing zelda is pretty poor.
Think it's going to cause quite a few problems when people start realising that it's not a very portable device and it ends up being another last gen console rather than a new gen.
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It looked decent to me at first but several major problems popped up...
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It cost $567 to play 1 multi-player game (system, controls, memory upgrade, dock, game)...
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Nintendo hasn't had the best reputation for launches (thinking Wii and forward, don't remember the others) and I don't want to wait 3-4 hours to end up not getting one.
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The controls look wonky
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I can only find 5 games total and Nintendo can't seem to attract a lot game dev companies any more (so probably not a lot of games for the system life)
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The memory is ridiculously small.... Zelda would take up more than 1/3 of the entire thing if downloaded for the original
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It's coming from the same factory that made NES classic... The same factory that burned me with production... (There were crying kids, so you say, "Hey, it's ok. We don't need Nintendo. We'll build something better)
I loved my gamecube... It was my first console when i was about 14 years old but it's been kinda down hill. I have a PS4. I would of bought the switch at a lower price point but it's just too high. I'm happy for you if you can get it and I hope you enjoy it if you do.
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Wow so many gamers actually talking about lack of full 1080p support? Sure I get that "we're on our way to 4K so why aren't we getting 1080p as the standard?" I have trouble understanding why we're so into our RetroPies, which play all sorts of great games that are far from HD, but we have a huge issue with Nintendo choosing hardware that will not always be 1080p? I am concerned about good games, and of course that is an opinion of what games are "good." I have a WiiU and I enjoy many Nintendo games on that console. Nintendo is definitely doing its own thing away from MS and Sony, and I appreciate they have taken this "other road" for the past 10 years now, albeit a risky one. I always try to support Nintendo if they are delivering something good for me to play, and Breath of the Wild got me in on a Switch for launch. I am concerned about their 3rd party support which has been lacking for so long now. I hope Nintendo put out all their classic IPs like Metroid, Punch Out, etc., along with at least decent 3rd party support in order for Switch to have a better turn out than WiiU.
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