PiZero compared to a Pi3
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@twd just FYI you are talking to an emulator developer, so I think he does know what he is on about.
Play nice.
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I think he does lib fba core or somthing right? If that's the case I don't use that as it don't run well (skips sound major slowdowns etc) I use pi fba and alls good. Maybe he need to look at his own code and optimise it. I am not a coder etc in fact I am dyslexic but even I learnt a bit of C# and built a few game's so I can appreciate the work that's involved. But here now I can boot any game he suggests pre disc era and play.
I don't want to argue with the guy I really don't but i am using a pizero and in the real world i cannot agree with the advice he gave a pi 3 will be butchered causing a lot more work and cost to achive a portable what a pizero can do in its tiny form factor for a pity full 5 bucks. I apologised for using the word liar that really wasn't my intention for how it was worded.
I will apologise agin for my tone I didn't mean to offend , just a friendly debate Back and forth in my eyes
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@barbudreadmon As I said postings before
Please respect each other and noone is a liar here.
I think you are old enough to not felt offended. I saw an excuse here - So take it easy.
But for the discussion Pi0 vs. Pi3:
The zero isn't the perfect choice for the all in one emulation - I agree with you.
But for most 16bit systems it runs fine and in most cases it fits the expatations. Annother question?
When should I use a Zero rather than a RPi3??
Only for handheld builds! Imho only here the Zero makes sense :)The Zero isn't as cheap as thought. You must enable sound manually or use a HDMI plug. You need a OTG cable. You may need a USB Wifi or USB LAN device.... then you may need a USB HUB... and voilá your 5$ device costs all in all about 15 to 20$ - with less performance. But it's a gold nugget for handhelds (some people here use SPI display below 20fps refresh and they are happy with)
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@twd So your solution to achieve full speed for those games on a rpi1@1Ghz is to use pifba. I suppose it's valid, even if i have serious doubts you'll run sh-2 games (= cp3 + some psikyo + some kaneko) at full speed with it (that's beyond doubts actually), the only difference between pifba and fbalpha-libretro, except the 6 years of developpement gap, is the m68k dynarec, which only affect m68k games (which is actually most of pifba game library). But that's a 500+ game emulator against a 4000+ game emulator (10000+ if i count non-arcade systems) and that's not the only differences : you'll have no shader, you'll have no dipswitch, i'm not sure pifba plays well with games that need a 90°/180° rotation either, and probably many other issues i'm not aware of (just a guess : altered beast is not running well on pifba ?). Those are things you should mention before saying fba is running at full speed on pizero.
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@twd said in PiZero compared to a Pi3:
I think he does lib fba core or somthing right? If that's the case I don't use that as it don't run well (skips sound major slowdowns etc) I use pi fba and alls good.
we've been talking about lr-fbalpha this whole time:
PiZero is basically a rpi1 refactored, so don't expect to play yoshi's island on snes, i don't recommend fbalpha on it either (you'll have speed issues with cps2, cps3, pgm, cave, psikyo, .... you'll be lucky if you can run cps1 and neogeo games at full speed)
pi-fba doesn't even run cps3.
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O my days you have no idea go get one then come back.
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@dankcushions said in PiZero compared to a Pi3:
@twd said in PiZero compared to a Pi3:
I think he does lib fba core or somthing right? If that's the case I don't use that as it don't run well (skips sound major slowdowns etc) I use pi fba and alls good.
we've been talking about lr-fbalpha this whole time:
PiZero is basically a rpi1 refactored, so don't expect to play yoshi's island on snes, i don't recommend fbalpha on it either (you'll have speed issues with cps2, cps3, pgm, cave, psikyo, .... you'll be lucky if you can run cps1 and neogeo games at full speed)
pi-fba doesn't even run cps3.
No we are talking about a pi3 compared to a pizero in a handheld ? Did I say pifba plays cps3 ? Both things I didn't say. I have offered to post a video do that mean nothing ? I made my zero into cab and I am playing Tate mostly Aswell.
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@twd said in PiZero compared to a Pi3:
@dankcushions said in PiZero compared to a Pi3:
@twd said in PiZero compared to a Pi3:
I think he does lib fba core or somthing right? If that's the case I don't use that as it don't run well (skips sound major slowdowns etc) I use pi fba and alls good.
we've been talking about lr-fbalpha this whole time:
PiZero is basically a rpi1 refactored, so don't expect to play yoshi's island on snes, i don't recommend fbalpha on it either (you'll have speed issues with cps2, cps3, pgm, cave, psikyo, .... you'll be lucky if you can run cps1 and neogeo games at full speed)
pi-fba doesn't even run cps3.
No we are talking about a pi3 compared to a pizero in a handheld ? Did I say pifba plays cps3 ? Both things I didn't say. I have offered to post a video do that mean nothing ? I made my zero into cab and I am playing Tate mostly Aswell.
you were arguing with someone who was specifically talking about lr-fbalpha. they even mention cps3 in the post, which is only available on lr-fbalpha.
if you want to make some sort of general point about pi-fba then fine, but stop picking fights with people about their hard work.
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@dankcushions disagreement is diffrent than a argument.
This is what I initally replied too
barbudreadmon 5 days ago
PiZero is basically a rpi1 refactored, so don't expect to play yoshi's island on snes, i don't recommend fbalpha on it either (you'll have speed issues with cps2, cps3, pgm, cave, psikyo, .... you'll be lucky if you can run cps1 and neogeo games at full speed)Here is my reply
twd 2 days ago @barbudreadmon
@barbudreadmonWell I completed yoshis Island on the pi zero last week . Everything you said here is a lie.... Unless you don't own a pizero and are guessing. Everything you stated works fine ... I built a arcade unit around the pizero and trust me I don't waste money because I am really poor ... The fact is the pi one do not preform like a zero ... The zero runs laps around it
Then it blew up because I used the word liar ... When I wanted to just say that is bullshit instead of swearing I choose a worse word a bad choice on my part. I have made two attempts to apologise I won't make a 3rd
I haven't moved the goal posts here he is hinging his argument on cps3 when all 16bit era works lovely and Neogeo cp1cps2 . a total of 5 games with cps3 and only sf3 is good that's it and his emulator preference (his own) not on the hardware capabilitys and other software that's really flawed logic. It's funny because I made a very similar post before and was universal accepted and upvoted so yeah.
My setup works mint people can make there own mind up have a punt with a pizero or have a punt with a pi3 and chop it up. Iam done here as I will probably be banned now.
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@twd said in PiZero compared to a Pi3:
Did I say pifba plays cps3 ?
You said "Everything you stated works fine", and i stated cps3 wouldn't run fine. I can't guess you are using pifba if your first post is "misleading" (yes, i could have used another word...), things would have been different if you had said "i can't play cps3 but the others run fine on pifba". Of course you can run pifba fine on a rpi1@1Ghz, i never disagreed with that, it's an emulator especially written for rpi1, but that's a fork from 6 years ago (and heavily modified for rpi, mainly their m68k dynarec which won't work inside current fba codebase, that's why there have been no update for 6 years), which contains less than 1/20 of current fbalpha game library and lacks a lot of other features retroarch+fbalpha-libretro provide.
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